Looking for a monk build, where can I find good builds or improve this old one I found?

[HekiReki]

So I found this and it looks fun, but apparently its outdated and could be improved in many ways, I just dont have the experience on how to do so. Unarmed, nunchaku, quarterstaffs, any monk feeling weapon would be great for me. Anyway here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q3zhwSPlMs

[titanopteryx]

Conquista님이 먼저 게시:

titanopteryx님이 먼저 게시:

Trickster can be lawful neutral I believe, though I haven't tested that. I'm pretty sure they need to be either chaotic or neutral.

trickster is locked to chaotic neutral, chaotic good, chaotic evil and true neutral

if you solo the game you can reach level 11 with a monk before going trickster and than level other classes, its not impossible, but like i mentioned needs alot of minmaxing

Hmm, nevermind about trickster and monk then.

[Raikon]

Monks are martial powerhouses. They do a lot of damage, with a lot of attacks. Its really hard to go wrong with the monk classes I have played.

Sohei- extremely powerful with pole arms, or throwing axes
Zen Archer- Very mobile, lots of attacks, strong bow damage
Quaterstaff monk- High damage, mobility, good saves.

Soehi doesnt start with monk wpns though. So if your dreaming of a nunchuku build, you need to take exotic weapon nunchuku.

[Hex]

Raikon님이 먼저 게시:

Sohei- extremely powerful with pole arms, or throwing axes
Zen Archer- Very mobile, lots of attacks, strong bow damage
Quaterstaff monk- High damage, mobility, good saves.

Here's the thing tho.

Sohei? Has nothing on Bloodrider
Zen Archer? Has nothing on Slayer cause of Studied Target, Quarry AND Sneak Attack
Quarterstaff? Has nothing on Sword Saint.

They are roleplaying sub-classes.

[Raikon]

Sword saint is indeed strong, but its strong in a different way. Monks get different ki abilities.
One increases thier number of attacks
One increases thier attack bonus
Then you have many different flavorful ones.

An enlarged Quatermaster already does a really big base damage. Then you throw in extra attacks, stregnth modifiers, attack bonuses, AND (not least) it can do free trip attempts. It is really quite unique. You are really underselling the class here in favor of a class that does less damage.

Remove the pet from sohei, and its still better then a blood rider. I used throwing axes as an example. Thats about 14 attacks per round. With +10 iniatitive, and a gaurenteed 20 inaititive roll. Thats about 28 attacks before the enemy can even react. Lol at the comparison to blood rider.

Zen archer is a great damager dealer from level 1-20. It gets an extra attack off the bat. It only gets more powerful as the game goes on. Its an excellent soloer, with great mobility. Hit the enemy, move away, hit the enemy, move away. It also can deflect arrows. You undersell things because you dont understand them.

[Raikon]

I bet scaled fist, stone, and traditional monks are also good, I just havent played them.

[Frozen Dervish]

Raikon님이 먼저 게시:

I bet scaled fist, stone, and traditional monks are also good, I just havent played them.

Yup, monk and its archetypes are just fine.

[Raikon]

Could be for scaled fist, since you can go charisma instead of dex. Take a level of nature oracle and get charisma to ac instead of dex. Would make a great tank. I've not actually played a scaled fist. So others may have better ideas.

Quatermaster monks, not sure I would multiclass that one. It wont have great AC, but its damage output is huge. Its also very entertaining to be tripping mobs left and right.

[Conquista]

Raikon님이 먼저 게시:

I bet scaled fist, stone, and traditional monks are also good, I just havent played them.

scaled fist is about dragon style, so its a str based unarmed class

student of stone is about shaitan style, so that one is pretty bad in wotr, but its still a monk so still a decent martial class

traditional monk can't chose its ki powers, so its more of a new player oriented class

[HekiReki]

RACHMANOVSKI님이 먼저 게시:

look up this Baldurs_Gate_2 youtube account (he is also here sometimes), he made a Monk solo build you want to look it up.

Had a look, can't find his monk solo build but he has good videos, will definitely be watching more I like his style.

[Hex]

Raikon님이 먼저 게시:

Sword saint is indeed strong, but its strong in a different way. Monks get different ki abilities.
One increases thier number of attacks
One increases thier attack bonus
Then you have many different flavorful ones.

An enlarged Quatermaster already does a really big base damage. Then you throw in extra attacks, stregnth modifiers, attack bonuses, AND (not least) it can do free trip attempts. It is really quite unique. You are really underselling the class here in favor of a class that does less damage.

"less damage"

SS can dish out like 1.5k dmg per round against Touch AC. 6 times that with crits. Elemental Barrage is completely busted with a SS cause you can put all elements into a weapon. With Trickster, you can get a 11-20 crit range and at 20, SS crits are always confirmed AND they auto-roll 20 on initiatives so you pretty much delete anything before they can do anything. You can go STR with SS and use a Scythe or something similar.

Mythic abilities completely break Sword Saint.

[Raikon]

Not sure why you are bringing trickster into the mix. Nothing stops a monk from going trickster. Once you get level 20 you can go all the chaos you want.

Sword saints do a lot of damage for sure. But not enough damage to make up the +3 attacks that a quatermaster will have over them.

[Raikon]

Besides Genie kind isnt mutually exclusive to sword saint. Monks can get all 4 on them as well.

[Hex]

Raikon님이 먼저 게시:

Not sure why you are bringing trickster into the mix. Nothing stops a monk from going trickster. Once you get level 20 you can go all the chaos you want.

Sword saints do a lot of damage for sure. But not enough damage to make up the +3 attacks that a quatermaster will have over them.

Theoretical damage isn't actual damage. Those few extra attacks won't actually hit anything, meanwhile SS can do all it's attacks against Touch AC, it does not miss.

[Frozen Dervish]

Hex님이 먼저 게시:

Raikon님이 먼저 게시:

Not sure why you are bringing trickster into the mix. Nothing stops a monk from going trickster. Once you get level 20 you can go all the chaos you want.

Sword saints do a lot of damage for sure. But not enough damage to make up the +3 attacks that a quatermaster will have over them.

Theoretical damage isn't actual damage. Those few extra attacks won't actually hit anything, meanwhile SS can do all it's attacks against Touch AC, it does not miss.

Neither will most properly buffed characters even without touch attacks.

[Raikon]

Well argueing with someone who cant see how a class works is tiring, but I dont nessarily mind talks about the differences between classes. The monks extra attacks are at its highest base attack. Those are probably going to hit.

To go on further, monks do different things when they attack unarmed (or quatermaster) Trip is one of those. Its going to be hard for monsters to avoid being tripped by a fully buffed, strgnth based quatermaster. Meaning the rest of the monks attacks will hit to. As will the entire party actually. Attacks of oppurtunity galore.

Monks have more attacks, that point cant be disputed. It goes into your other (this is why SS is better) you get more attacks with elemental barrage, and mythic charge.

Monks also get perfect strike. Meaning they can reroll thier attack bonus.
Ki strike +6 Attack Bonus (maybe 5)
Charge +2 Attack Bonus
Skald +8 attack bonus
Domain community + 12 attack bonus (about ish)
Madness +10 attack bonus
Insight + 2-4 Attack bonus
BaB- 20 Attack bonus
Weapon +5 attack bonus
Mark of justice +12 attack bonus (about ish)

I mean really, this game throws so much attack bonus at you. This is from memory and not actually going into game to get actual numbers. I am severly lowballing it. Its silly to think its theoritical damage cause itll miss. Who needs touch AC? Ignorant players do.

Its not like I dont have experience with a Sword Saint either.
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