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Nethys is also thoroughly insane. His ascension to godhood came about when he gained omniscience and became privy to all knowledge in the universe. But as he was still mortal at that time, this sudden burst of enlightenment shattered his mind in the process.
Nethys is a neutral deity, who has an even more hands off approach to dealing with his worshipers than Iomedae does. He is also known for having an extremely lax attitude when it comes to the practice of magic, in the sense that he doesn't care how people use magic, so long as they continue to keep its practice and knowledge alive.
He might actually have sided with Areelu Vorlesh, if he was motivated enough to care.
Not only that, but I believe his followers actually look down upon those who don't practice magic as being of lesser worth than those who do? Somebody may need to correct me on that, but that's what I've heard from lore videos about him.
As for Norgober, it was already pointed out above that he is the god of assassins. He may have passed the test of the Star Stone, but he is also considered an evil deity. One of his nicknames is "Father Skinsaw", and I do not wish to know why.
Maybe it's because he was sloshed, that he was able to become the god of alcohol and adventure.
Iomedae described her own ascent to godhood as her accepting a sacred duty / responsibility.
Seems like the role of a deity is just as much of being a job, as it is a position of status. To become the god of something, you would of course have to exemplify it's portfolio.
But the real thing to know just because one is lawful good does not mean you have to emphise the law aspects over the good aspects you need to balance the two also nobody can 100% stay a single alignment; not in this setting where the choices can change it on a dime and not when human beings and well mortals in general have their free will to do whatever they want to, if anything the alignments are more a suggestion then a rule in general and I'd argue that as long as your choices are majority your alignment you'll generally stay that alignment. Also again Seelah's order of Paladins may have an entirely different code both in terms of what they stand for but also in terms of what they value in an actions, meaning that Seelah could still be keeping her code entirely and it may not even value Mendev's laws at all: remember she is NOT from Mendev but from another nation entirely and joined an entirely differant paladin order in that nation also she is a reformed theif herself so her turning a blind eye to Curl is honestly something to be expected also it may be a law in Mendev against looting corpses BUT it doesn't stop the player or really anyone from looting any dead enemies and allies and we never get any consquences for it. So please stop acting like this law being broken is a big deal because its not everyone in Mendev breaks it all the time everytime they scavange from the dead demons and the dead cultists and any dead body in general.
So yeah lets not hold Seelah to the same standards as Paladins in Mendev she's not from Mendev and not a member of any Mendevian orders, she is her own independent agent fighting the demons selflessly of her own will and I'm fairly certain every demon she slays more then makes up for her shortcomings.
Also don't complain about Norgorber being an evil aligned deity when Asmodeus is ALSO an evil aligned deity and if Iomedae is willing to take advise from one evil aligned deity whom can be just as if not more evil then Norgorber if he wants to be then what harm is there from taking it from another one and one who went thru the same test of the Starstone and would know how the change from being a mortal to a god can really impact a person.
Anyway the Test of the Starstone being something that Cayden can take and pass while drunk just shows you that Iomedae is all the more jealous of you coming up with a way to ascend that was even harder the test of the Starstone and suceeding at it: I'm of the opinion getting all those crystals is a MUCH bigger pain in the ass especially given you have to defeat seven demon lords (In practice only four two of them twice) to get enough to ascend yourself, your party and Areelu, I don't know about you but is killing a Demon Lord easier then taking the test of the Starstone, failing either results in death and the former are more elusive where as the Starstone is sitting in the middle of Absolam waiting for anyone to try and take it. Compared to killing demon lords in their own realms I may add in addition to killing armies worth of demons to get to the bastards the test of the Starstone is easy especially if you are already a demi-god you can then just walk into Absolam take the test and ascend to full divine status a lot easier then a normal person would.
In fact Cayden and Norgorbur passing the test is even more impressive then Iomedae because she was pretty much a demi-god at that point, both of those two were just relatively normal humans one of whom lucked out and the other likely worked his butt off trying to pass it. Iomedae had it handed to her and while she likely did struggle it wouldn't have been as hard for her as it was for either of the two because she was at a state beyond a normal human that point where Cayden and Norgobur were functionally just normal humans when they took the test, to me the fact that they who were straight up normal humans and nobodies at that took the test and passed is far more impressive then somebody who was pretty much groomed to be Aroden's successor and even then I'm fairly certain Aroden would be second guessing his choice if he were still alive.
Though I'm not entirely convinced that Aroden is fully dead as in dead and can't come back Pharasma really hasn't commented on the matter and she'd know for certain being the goddess of Death itself, but anyway he could easily be trapped in some sort of god trap and be functionally in the same boat as Prometheus where he is utterly powerless and having a fate worse then death thus he cannot grant divine power to those who worship him and thus everyone thinks he's dead: that might even make an interesting adventure path at some point the Return of Aroden you could call it and the heroes save Aroden and or resurrect Aroden returning the God of Prophesy to life once more and taking his seat once more in the pantheon, hell if Tar Baphon is back it would be good for Golarian to have the one who put a stop to him the first time return to the realm of the living to put his ass back in the ground.
Right here: https://2e.aonprd.com/Causes.aspx?ID=1
"You must respect the lawful authority of legitimate leadership wherever you go, and follow its laws."
And in this case, the legitimate leadership would be the Code of Mendev, Queen Galfrey, the Royal Council, est.
Seelah consistently places her own emotions and friendship above following the proper laws of the land. So while she may be Good, she is not Lawful.
And if you're going to try and argue that those are second edition rules, this is how Lawful Good is described in 1st edition:
Good characters and creatures protect innocent life. Evil characters and creatures debase or destroy innocent life, whether for fun or profit.
Good implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others.
Lawful characters tell the truth, keep their word, respect authority, honor tradition, and judge those who fall short of their duties. Chaotic characters follow their consciences, resent being told what to do, favor new ideas over tradition, and do what they promise if they feel like it.
Law implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability. On the downside, lawfulness can include closed-mindedness, reactionary adherence to tradition, self-righteousness, and a lack of adaptability. Those who consciously promote lawfulness say that only lawful behavior creates a society in which people can depend on each other and make the right decisions in full confidence that others will act as they should.
Anyway what is the point of following a law that nobody else seems to follow also it isn't Seelah's duty to enforce Mendev's laws she is not native to it, also one can respect the law and their authority but that does NOT mean you have an obligation to enforce them, it means you merely don't break them yourself and even then Iomedae seems to be rather leniant with who gets her powers because she allows Halrun who is mental damaged and insane from his PTSD to have her magic and he's a danger to his own side, and don't give me the whole Inquisitors and Paladins are differant in how they worship their deities, that's a given but which is worse allowing somebody to get away with looting a few corpses and some drunkness (Which let me honest Seelah is moderate enough that she's sober even when has had a few drinks) or burning children alive because you think they are a threat? I'd say the latter is more then reason enough to yank your divine magic and Halrun I'd say if he is in the alignment zone he's on the border between Lawful Neutral and Lawful Evil barely in Iomedae's good books which is likely the reason his magic isn't able to heal the protagonist because he is barely in his goddess's good books and as he is an inquisitor healing magic is never his strong suit to begin with.
Anyway my point being you don't have to rigidly follow every single rule to stay your alignment because that is the main thing that decides what allows a Paladin to keep their powers, they don't have to adhere to their alignment 100% of the time they only need to adhere to it enough to stay in their alignment and Seelah counters her chaotic actions with a fair amount of lawful ones like stopping Elon from killing Curl without due process and a trial which by the way that is a lawful good thing to do, you don't kill without a trial otherwise you become a vigilante, she ended up making the right choice in the end because as it turned out he was being mind-controlled and only grabbed the ring to save Elon from giving it to his betrothed which Sunhammer tried to do a second time at his wedding. As to the looting well who exactly is enforcing the law when the city has gone to hell, which is a bigger priority dealing with looters or stopping the demons that have invaded the city if you think that petty crimes take priority over demons invading the city then you are lawfully stupid, because a lawfully good person prioritizes the greater threat that being the invading enemies first which I may add makes Irabeth a better defender of Kenebres then Halrun considering she actually is trying to fight the demons while Halrun wastes his time guarding a pit when there are MUCH larger enemies to worry about.
Anyway its not like I would rigidly adhere to Mendev's laws if I were playing a paladin anyway have to remember I did NOT punish Jannah or Woljif for running off, as a general rule I refuse to be a judge in ANY game because I am not a judge in real life. I am however obligated to stop an uncontrollable danger to others Halrun is certainly in that state given his priorities I can try and set him straight but I drew the line at what he said about Ember, when you are actively threatening the life of a child you are immediately a danger that must be ended because harming and killing children is 100% evil there is NO justification for it, to try and justify it is 100% Evil and I'm not going to concede on this. Were he to not threaten Ember's life and repent of his attempt to kill her I'd be more inclined to be merciful BUT if he is going to still have that desire to kill her he's become as much a threat to innocents as the demons he is fighting against, he's crossed the moral ground that would prompt me to kill anyone in any circumstance threatening the life of a child, that is something that immediately makes you an evil person that must be stopped. And again don't try and justify his actions there is NO circumstance that would justify killing children, it is the worst type of murder.
First of all, those scrolls of atonement cost roughly 1,000 gold each. I don't know what Seelah's income is, but I seriously doubt someone working on a soldier's salary in the medieval ages can afford to buy such an expensive item every month.
Secondly, the Atonement spell works differently in the actual lore, compared to how it works in this game. The spell can change you to pretty much whatever alignment you want, but ONLY if the recipient genuinely wants to adopt that alignment. It is not enough for Seelah to simply use the scroll and become Lawful Good, she has to actually want to be Lawful Good in order for the spell to work properly. And seeing as how she repeatedly breaks away from what is considered LG behavior, we can draw the conclusion that the spell would fail to work on her.
I know that you don't have to rigidly stick to your alignment in order to maintain it. You can make the occasional slip up here and there. But the problem is that Seelah doesn't just make the occasional slip up. Throughout the entire game, she is consistently shown behaving in either a Neutral or Chaotic fashion. If there are moments where she displays a Lawful disposition, I do not know of them; and I've played through the game enough times to complete every path. Some more than once.
Claiming that Seelah shouldn't be beholden to Mendev's code because she isn't from these lands is downright absurd. Last time I checked, Seelah was not a visiting dignitary or politician, so I don't know what gives you the idea that she would be protected by Diplomatic Immunity. Not only that, but she is enlisted with the crusade, meaning that she is a soldier operating in service to the Nerosyan military.
As for why it's important to follow the law when nobody else abides by it, I'd like to borrow a quote from Batman: "It has nothing to do with easy. It's about doing what's right, because it's right, and that's the only reason you need!"
Seelah is supposed to be a paladin, and paladins are supposed to serve as an example for others to follow and be inspired by. If the people of Mendev see that even the holy knights are lacking in moral fiber, that's going to cause way more problems down the line.
Hulrun being unable to cure our wound has nothing to do with Iomedae being displeased with him. Even the dragoness couldn't heal our wound, and she was in a much better state of mind. Areelu used her magic to conceal our wound and make it look like it had been healed. But as we learn in the city of Iz, not even the gods themselves have the power to heal such a wound; a fact which Areelu isn't sure whether she should take pride in or not.
That is demonstrably false. Asmodeus has no problem with other gods being worshiped in his territory, so long as their faith does not cause trouble for him. The Hellknights are primarily from Chelliax, and the Order of the God Claw worships a number of lawful deities, Iomedae being included among them.
You have stated you don't see any difference between Demons and Devils, because they're both utterly evil. However, that is a rather short sighted view of the situation. While they are both evil, it is the manner in which they act upon that evil which separates them.
Demons are chaotic, unpredictable, and have little to no sense of self restraint. They do whatever they want, whenever they want, and they don't give a damn about the consequences.
Devils, on the other hand are lawful to a fault. When they make a promise, they will follow through on that promise, even if doing so proves to be detrimental to themselves. Devils will only break their word, if they have a way to legally do so and escape the consequences. They are no less evil than the Demons they fight against, but theirs is a calculated and methodical evil. Not the mindless, raving barbarism of their Abyssal peers.
((You really gotta learn to space out your posts. These text walls take up a ton of space. Especially when you leave the previous person's comment in the quote as well.))
My point wasn't that devils were less evil than demons, but rather than they were significantly easier to deal with than them. For all their wicked ambitions, you can still trust a devil to honor their agreements... just make sure you don't leave any room for interpretation when laying out the specifics of what that agreement entails.
The difference is that Norgober is a god of secrets, murder, greed and poisons, where as Asmodeus is a god of contracts, pride, slavery and tyranny.
When dealing with Asmodeus, you know what you're getting yourself into. He'll even lay it out for you in writing so you know everything down to the most minute details. With Norgober, however, even his own clergy don't know what the guy's actual plans are, save for his most trusted servants. And much like Shar from D&D, these priests often have their memories modified after completing their assigned tasks.
When thinking about Asmodeus' faithful, I am reminded of the legend of Vlad Tepes placing a golden chalice in the middle of the street and leaving it there for 24 hours. When he came back for it the next day, the chalice had not moved from its resting place, because everybody in the city knew what would happen to them if they stole it, and they collectively decided it was not worth the trouble.
As for your question regarding Iomedae, I thought we had already cleared this up? Iomedae has not had significant time to do anything of noteworthy accomplishment. She's been a deity for only a century. That is practically a newborn infant in the grand scheme of divinity, and it is shorter than the length of time it takes an Elf to reach adulthood in the pathfinder universe. With how many ancestries have the capacity to live over 200 years, there are probably a great many people alive today, who were around when Iomedae was still mortal.
But as I already stated, Iomedae is fully aware of her lack of experience, and has demonstrated a willingness to study from other deities to learn how to fill her role better. Asmodeus is only ONE of her mentors; there are others who aren't as evil.
You are effectively chastising somebody who just got promoted to a managerial position, because they don't run things as well as the previous boss did. Give the lady some time to get herself settled in. Maybe when Mendev isn't being invaded by a never ending tide of demons, she'll finally have a moment to catch her breath.
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Only a complete fool would ever trust Nocticula at this point. Do you know nothing about her reputation? Do you not realize that her isles were built upon the corpses of demon lords, whom she slew through manipulation, deceit and seduction? She was the first succubus to be created. Their entire shtick is to lure their victims into a false sense of security, before they go in for the kill.
As for why Iomedae didn't kick her and Areelu out of the conversation, it's because doing so would have caused more problems than it solved. The Gods do not personally involve themselves in mortal affairs, unless the situation is truly apocalyptic in scale. This is because if one god starts making claims to the mortal world, then all of them will. And since gods in Pathfinder are considered to be borderline omnipotent within their respective portfolios, that would not be a good deal for anybody involved.
Demon Lords and Arch Devils are free to walk around, because they are not true deities. Their power levels are comparable to that of demigods. But the only demon lords who achieved true divinity are Lamashtu and (eventually) Nocticula, while the only devil who did so would be Asmodeus.