unclean gift on a lich

[titanopteryx]

So I got this unclean gift but I'm going to become an undead lich. Unclean gift raises con +2 and lowers charisma -4. When my character becomes a lich he'll become undead which means he loses his constitution score and his charisma score will double as his constitution score from then on. The other effects of unclean gift are ac +2 and 50% chance to negate crit hits and sneak attacks.

The 50% chance to negate crits and sneak attacks is great, but -4 charisma on an undead isn't. So what do you all think about unclean gift on a lich?

[Conquista]

its bad

[Schlumpsha]

Better to save Unclean Gift for another mythic path, I reckon. Like Swarm-that-Walks.

With that combination you don't have to worry about the Charisma hit, no mythic spellbook requiring CHA, less NPC's around (making talking negletable), and it's thematically also fitting to boot.

[MjKorz]

Strongest lich builds are pure DC caster charisma stacking sorcerers. Goal is to reach 70 charisma which is doable with 1 court poet merc. Taking anything that gimps your charisma is counter-productive.

[IRuleAll]

im playing a sorc lich, was a definite hard pass for me