Minagho can actually have a happy ending

[jasta85]

So, just beat the game as Azata and it is possible to leave Minagho alive and apparently for her to have a happy ending. Spoilers below on how.

End of chapter 3, use the Azata choice to attack the Mignight Fane early, you surprise Minagho and once you corner her, show her mercy and let her go.

In the abyss chapter 4, when the manager of the Ten Thousand Delights tries and sets you up to die, as revenge for killing Minagho, tell her that Minagho is alive and you let her go. She thanks you and leaves the brothel, and the other succubus takes over, same as if you killed her.

I didn't encounter either of them after that.

I did kill Baphomet at the end of the game as part of ascension, so I'm not sure if this might have affected things. He did have those brands on her which were supposed to torture her for as long as she lived, but since I killed him maybe that got rid of them.

But in the ending slides, it says that Minagho and her lover found each other and never separated again. So, happy ending for our eyeless villainess.

I just thought this was a cool option to have.

[LordSith]

Yes it was interesting to have little variations like that. It just missed bigger impact in the Azata path. (If they were some biggers, i don't remember any at the moment.)

[jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi]

Azata is truly the best path in the game too many happy moments to pass it up

[Kel'Ithra]

Yeah my Azata was seriously hated by Galfrey at the end because of the choices made, that where well intended and good. But went against her rigid code of evil must die and you must obey my orders or else.

My Azata ascended, which was fun. Bapho and Deskari's realms turned into my Characters own piece of Elysium. Won't say more but my slides seem to imply that her influence had become so strong that she was drawing followers from all over the world, specially from Mendev which sounds like might of pissed off the queen, judging by the slide. And yes everyone ascended, endured Nenio's quest for that.... really hate her quest. But an Ascended Nenio is frighteningly funny and scary..... doing experiments to see how many of Mendev's women would scream at the sight of a mouse.... wtf Nenio. And even Ascended Areelu out of spite towards the queen and Iomedae for her half truth in act 5 and her treating my Azata like she was some time bomb about to unleash untold mayhem and chaos.... I maybe unleashed a bit... yes take that Mendev, enjoy the Havoc Dragon parties every few days.... keeping you up all night and making you think the country is under assault while it's just a rather very loud and rowdy party!!!

But Azata also felt kind of heavily discriminated more so than my demon..... like wtf.

[jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi]

Yeah I actually use Toybox to make Galfrey not have any gripes I mean seriously I think that whoever thought blocking Azatas from romancing her was an idiot; really I don't like my romance options being restricted by alignment they weren't in Kingmaker and that made Kingmaker VERY enjoyable on that front: but yes Azatas forever; Also did you make Arueshallae your queen? I sure will.

[Kel'Ithra]

Originally posted by jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi:

Yeah I actually use Toybox to make Galfrey not have any gripes I mean seriously I think that whoever thought blocking Azatas from romancing her was an idiot; really I don't like my romance options being restricted by alignment they weren't in Kingmaker and that made Kingmaker VERY enjoyable on that front: but yes Azatas forever; Also did you make Arueshallae your queen? I sure will.

Wasn't trying to romance her, but was still shocked at how badly my Azata was treated, and the reaction she had when returned from the Abyss. It wasn't a happy omg your alive commander, it was a WTF she's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ alive, ♥♥♥♥ my life.... frightened reaction. But hey ended up being more popular and more influential in the end.. screw you Galfrey.

[jasta85]

Pretty sure Galfrey has a bad reaction to any background unless you are romancing her (granted, I've only done 2 play throughs so might be wrong). I treated her nicely in my Azata play through after getting back from the Abyss and she got a lot nicer after that. I was aiming for godhood so I didn't care if she kept the throne or not heh.

[jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi]

Originally posted by Kel'Ithra:

Originally posted by jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi:

Yeah I actually use Toybox to make Galfrey not have any gripes I mean seriously I think that whoever thought blocking Azatas from romancing her was an idiot; really I don't like my romance options being restricted by alignment they weren't in Kingmaker and that made Kingmaker VERY enjoyable on that front: but yes Azatas forever; Also did you make Arueshallae your queen? I sure will.

Wasn't trying to romance her, but was still shocked at how badly my Azata was treated, and the reaction she had when returned from the Abyss. It wasn't a happy omg your alive commander, it was a WTF she's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ alive, ♥♥♥♥ my life.... frightened reaction. But hey ended up being more popular and more influential in the end.. screw you Galfrey.

Which is very stupid considering the fact the only person that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up in the first place was her by sending you into the abyss and then taking the Sword of Valor from Drezen (Which was a crime when Staunton Vhane did it but is apperently OK if you're the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ queen of Mendev) personally I'll just romance her and basically force her to ascend with me and then she'll be forced to a deity wife to me forever a very funny outcome in my book and it makes Mendev have to get a new ruler that will hopefully be better then Galfrey

[Kel'Ithra]

Originally posted by jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi:

Originally posted by Kel'Ithra:

Wasn't trying to romance her, but was still shocked at how badly my Azata was treated, and the reaction she had when returned from the Abyss. It wasn't a happy omg your alive commander, it was a WTF she's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ alive, ♥♥♥♥ my life.... frightened reaction. But hey ended up being more popular and more influential in the end.. screw you Galfrey.

Which is very stupid considering the fact the only person that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up in the first place was her by sending you into the abyss and then taking the Sword of Valor from Drezen (Which was a crime when Staunton Vhane did it but is apperently OK if you're the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ queen of Mendev) personally I'll just romance her and basically force her to ascend with me and then she'll be forced to a deity wife to me forever a very funny outcome in my book and it makes Mendev have to get a new ruler that will hopefully be better then Galfrey

Their your herald so you can really mess with them in really bad ways. So guess my Demon got treated better since she was actually trying her best to not over step her bounds and actually play nice with the queen, even though wasn't romancing her, or trying to. Though seems like Iomedae sort of calms down about you and sort of gets along, though might be because of Seelah.

[Arueshalae]

Originally posted by jasta85:

Pretty sure Galfrey has a bad reaction to any background unless you are romancing her (granted, I've only done 2 play throughs so might be wrong). I treated her nicely in my Azata play through after getting back from the Abyss and she got a lot nicer after that. I was aiming for godhood so I didn't care if she kept the throne or not heh.

A bit of a bump, but the major update that fixed a lot of things on the Azata Path seems to have tempered Galfrey a bit. My current run is at the point where she "banishes" you to the Abyss. She still gets mad at you for launching the attack early and sparing Minhago (understandable, even if I don't agree), but she now can be convinced that allowing Demons to repent in the case of Arueshalae can be more powerful than just a static image of right and wrong. Instead of "banishing", now it's "right, you are apparently basically the Doomslayer, so time to go to the Abyss and get cracking" (paraphrased, obv, and yes, I DID have the Helm of the Abyss Slayer equipped).

Additionally, it seems to be most of what she cares about is how well you manage the Crusade. I'm not sure exactly the mathematics behind how this is calculated, and no doubt someone far more suited than me on the subject has already done a massive Guide thread on what matters here, but I defeated almost all of the Demon Armies with the exception of a few Level 10 and 11 forces that just proved too tough to crack within the Moral Starvation phase that starts once you get near the end of the chapter, lost no forts to a siege, completed all of the Errand missions, got my Crusade stats up to the max level (and 3/4 to max XP, max Level), and had developed my fortifications the most I could. I'm assuming that there is some sort of hidden rubric that weighs your remaining Morale, number of remaining enemy armies, number of completed decrees, et cetera, which contributes to a total "State of the Crusade." And this weighs heavily in your favor when it comes to her perception of you.

Of course, we'll see how well that holds up when I come back.

[the_rpgenius]

Originally posted by jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi:

Yeah I actually use Toybox to make Galfrey not have any gripes I mean seriously I think that whoever thought blocking Azatas from romancing her was an idiot; really I don't like my romance options being restricted by alignment they weren't in Kingmaker and that made Kingmaker VERY enjoyable on that front:

If I may ask, what Toybox options make it possible to romance Galfrey as an Azata?

[jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi]

Originally posted by the_rpgenius:

Originally posted by jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi:

Yeah I actually use Toybox to make Galfrey not have any gripes I mean seriously I think that whoever thought blocking Azatas from romancing her was an idiot; really I don't like my romance options being restricted by alignment they weren't in Kingmaker and that made Kingmaker VERY enjoyable on that front:

If I may ask, what Toybox options make it possible to romance Galfrey as an Azata?

Turn on love is free and Friendship is magic and you can romance Galfrey one any path; Which is one of the many reasons I refuse to play the game without that mod

[the_rpgenius]

Originally posted by jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi:

Originally posted by the_rpgenius:

If I may ask, what Toybox options make it possible to romance Galfrey as an Azata?

Turn on love is free and Friendship is magic and you can romance Galfrey one any path; Which is one of the many reasons I refuse to play the game without that mod

Excellent; thank you!

[marcusph15]

Minagho deserves no happy ending what so after, lets not forget the countless atrocities that she committed with glee.

[jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi]

Originally posted by marcusph15:

Minagho deserves no happy ending what so after, lets not forget the countless atrocities that she committed with glee.

You do realize that this a game that anyone who ones it can play the way they want to and your opinion on their decisions doesn't matter at all. Just like how Lann's opinions didn't matter one bit in my decision to choose Wendaug over him 10 times out of 10, I'd already made my decision in advance and there was no persuading me to decide otherwise. So yeah Minagho has done some VERY awful things; in my personal opinion though by the time this option comes up she has been punished enough in so many satisfying ways by that point that killing her is a waste of energy and really beneath me, I say ease off once you've punished her enough no point in beating a powerless demoness after you've already broken her abilities. Call it a personal thing but I'm not in favor of adding more damage to something that is already broken and beaten, she's a enemy that has been rendered utterly powerless and not able to do anymore impactful damage, I've had my payback after clapping her in the recapture of Drezan, no need to add to somebody's misery when you've already beaten them hard.

[marcusph15]

Originally posted by jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi:

Originally posted by marcusph15:

Minagho deserves no happy ending what so after, lets not forget the countless atrocities that she committed with glee.

You do realize that this a game that anyone who ones it can play the way they want to and your opinion on their decisions doesn't matter at all. Just like how Lann's opinions didn't matter one bit in my decision to choose Wendaug over him 10 times out of 10, I'd already made my decision in advance and there was no persuading me to decide otherwise. So yeah Minagho has done some VERY awful things; in my personal opinion though by the time this option comes up she has been punished enough in so many satisfying ways by that point that killing her is a waste of energy and really beneath me, I say ease off once you've punished her enough no point in beating a powerless demoness after you've already broken her abilities. Call it a personal thing but I'm not in favor of adding more damage to something that is already broken and beaten, she's a enemy that has been rendered utterly powerless and not able to do anymore impactful damage, I've had my payback after clapping her in the recapture of Drezan, no need to add to somebody's misery when you've already beaten them hard.

I guess the thousands of innocent lives she killed and tortured , the crusaders who perished defending there homeland from utter elimination and families she left destitute will find solace that Minagho got to hold hands and ride on to the sunset with her love.


But hey that’s your choice.I’m not coming over your home and forcing you to choose the choices I want by gun point.

Im simply saying my opinion on the matter.