Can I be a lawful Good Gold Dragon?

[Vorgor]

Title

[Conquista]

you end up being neutral good

[Rex is back, baby!]

No. They retconned Gold Dragon to be the Neutral Good option, and, as much as I think it's cool. the Gold Dragon mechanic has been implemented very subpar, a dispel on you destroys your dragon form because it's treated like a Dragonkind III spell.

[Stink Bug]

Originally posted by xəʁ:

No. They retconned Gold Dragon to be the Neutral Good option, and, as much as I think it's cool. the Gold Dragon mechanic has been implemented very subpar, a dispel on you destroys your dragon form because it's treated like a Dragonkind III spell.

That doesn’t make much sense, Gold Dragons are LG alignment, and True Angels are usually any good or NG. Are they using 2E lore here, like they did with Aeons being LN instead of TN?

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Stink Bug:

Originally posted by xəʁ:

No. They retconned Gold Dragon to be the Neutral Good option, and, as much as I think it's cool. the Gold Dragon mechanic has been implemented very subpar, a dispel on you destroys your dragon form because it's treated like a Dragonkind III spell.

That doesn’t make much sense, Gold Dragons are LG alignment, and True Angels are usually any good or NG. Are they using 2E lore here, like they did with Aeons being LN instead of TN?

No, they just wanted to have a designated Mythic Path for each of the different alignments.

Lawful Good was already taken by Angel, so they used Gold Dragon for Neutral Good.

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LG = Angel

NG = Gold Dragon

CG = Azata

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LN = Aeon

TN = Legend

CN = Trickster

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LE = Devil / Lich

NE = Swarm that Walks

CE = Demon

[jsaving]

Yes that's right, Owlcat first decided to make angels LG while offering "mainly lawful" and "mainly good" angel sub-paths. When they later decided to implement gold dragon they realized, whoops, we probably should have made angel NG but it's too late now to rework it so we'll just change gold dragons to be NG. There's no pretense that Owlcat is using lore of any type here.

If it helps, Iomedae herself rebukes you to your face if she sees you turn into a gold dragon in Drezen, letting you know in her role as Pathfinder's embodiment of lawful goodness that you are abandoning paladin principles if you go the gold dragon route. That's basically the in-game equivalent of your dungeon master telling you, watch out, you're on the verge of an alignment change so you should think carefully about your choices.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by jsaving:

Yes that's right, Owlcat first decided to make angels LG while offering "mainly lawful" and "mainly good" angel sub-paths. When they later decided to implement gold dragon they realized, whoops, we probably should have made angel NG but it's too late now to rework it so we'll just change gold dragons to be NG. There's no pretense that Owlcat is using lore of any type here.

If it helps, Iomedae herself rebukes you to your face if she sees you turn into a gold dragon in Drezen, letting you know in her role as Pathfinder's embodiment of lawful goodness that you are abandoning paladin principles if you go the gold dragon route. That's basically the in-game equivalent of your dungeon master telling you, watch out, you're on the verge of an alignment change so you should think carefully about your choices.

Gold Dragon and Swarm that Walks were both stretch goal paths, and were not originally planned to be in the game.

As for Iomedae rebuking you, the worst I got from her was a warning telling me not to expect thanks from people for becoming a gold dragon.

Writers missed an opportunity to include a dialogue option like "It's not about earning praise, it's about doing what's right."

[Selvokaz]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by jsaving:

Yes that's right, Owlcat first decided to make angels LG while offering "mainly lawful" and "mainly good" angel sub-paths. When they later decided to implement gold dragon they realized, whoops, we probably should have made angel NG but it's too late now to rework it so we'll just change gold dragons to be NG. There's no pretense that Owlcat is using lore of any type here.

If it helps, Iomedae herself rebukes you to your face if she sees you turn into a gold dragon in Drezen, letting you know in her role as Pathfinder's embodiment of lawful goodness that you are abandoning paladin principles if you go the gold dragon route. That's basically the in-game equivalent of your dungeon master telling you, watch out, you're on the verge of an alignment change so you should think carefully about your choices.

Gold Dragon and Swarm that Walks were both stretch goal paths, and were not originally planned to be in the game.

As for Iomedae rebuking you, the worst I got from her was a warning telling me not to expect thanks from people for becoming a gold dragon.

Writers missed an opportunity to include a dialogue option like "It's not about earning praise, it's about doing what's right."

or that as a Gold Dragon, like Teredelve maybe you are proclaiming yourself the Champion of Drezen, like she was for Kenabras.