Is WotR going to be based on PF 1e or 2e?

[Sasha]

As the title says, I was wondering if the system the game is using is going to be very late 1e, like Kingmaker, or is going to go with 2e?

[Atlas MK II]

Still 1e.

[Sasha]

Tbh, that's kind of a bummer. 1e is super crunchy, but 2e really refines some of the unnecessary crunchiness out and allows for much more customisation. Ah well. I'll still be playing and hoping for a 2e game in the future.

[Mauman]

And I'm hoping they stay forever more with 1e.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Mauman:

And I'm hoping they stay forever more with 1e.

Dude, 2nd edition is awesome. They made the halfbreed races (Half Elf, Half Orc, Tiefling, Aasimar, Changeling, Dhampir) heritages that could be applied to every race, instead of just humans!

[Wooden_Dragon]

The core rules remain from 1st Edition. We cannot say now if something from the second edition will make an appearance in the WotR, but we will not be surprised if we decide to do so.

[Insanity_184]

They will more then likely go to 2 when a game is based on a module that is 100% pf 2nd. Also im sure as they are the most popular (only?) pathfinder game Pazio will eventually push them in that direction to promote 2nd edition

[Desdinova]

Honestly, if it's still 1Ed. than I'm not even remotely interested. Pathfinder 2Ed is so vastly better than 1Ed that I can't get into Kingmaker anymore because of the older rules are so terrible.

FWIW, Pathfinder 2Ed was a near-total ground-up rewrite of the Pathfinder rules and only the basic dice mechanic and the names of the Attributes survived. I've found the character creation and advancement rules are so flexible it feels like you have the freedom of systems like GURPS or HERO rather than a level-based system.

[Marcos_DS]

Glad its staying 1e. I like where 2e is going, but WOTR is a 1e module and 1e is far more fleshed out right now.

[macadami]

5e DND and 2e Pathfinder both aimed to make the game easier to play tabletop, they both simplified almost as much as possible. Their idea is that human players hate complicated math and relying on the DM to catch and judge all esoteric rules makes playing the game difficult or less fun....

We are playing computer games though. The computer does the math, keeps up with the rules, and while I haven't played Pathfinder 2e....5e makes it so everyone can basically do everything with very little choices that steer your character. I guess i can see where roleplayers who solely play to pretend to be a 3' tall orc cleric who doesn't actually heal but backstabs and plays bardic music, these systems are perfect where playing -is- roleplaying not tactical combat, preparations, or any sort of other challenge, just enjoying pretending to be whom you want.

I personally loathe them, because I mainly play these rulesets on computer, where simplification isn't needed and not where preplanned characters are pointless or the choices you make all counted on one hand.

[Friend Computer]

Thankfully this edition is 1e, mostly because the initial module was written in 1e.
Most of the fiddly bits that are big key points to this Adventure Path simply don't exist in PF2e yet and would need to be more homebrew than they already are (and at that point if Owlcat Games was interested in doing that much homebrew, I would rather they do their own game to be completely creative and not restricted to specific canon).

However, I'd be interested in seeing them do Extinction Curse if they did a 2e Module, in whatever their approximation of the 2e Ruleset would be.

With that said, frankly I think there are better stories out of Paizo's Adventure Path collection that would be more enjoyable as a cRPG first, all of which are in PF1e (Skull & Shackles, Reign of Winter, Carrion Crown, Jade Regent, Ironfang Invasion, Hell's Rebels).

[Immortal Reaver]

They are hiring for Starfinder game so that will be next.

[joeking141]

Originally posted by macadami:

I personally loathe them, because I mainly play these rulesets on computer, where simplification isn't needed and not where preplanned characters are pointless or the choices you make all counted on one hand.

It's pretty bizarre that you admit you've never played 2e but also are more than happy to say you loath it. Especially since you seem to think you can count the number of choices you make in it on one hand, you'd need a freakish number of fingers for that to be true.

Edit: Also your example of a cleric that use's bard song's and backstabs instead of healing is weird as 1e Pathfinder supports that pretty well.

[Sasha]

Originally posted by joeking141:

Originally posted by macadami:

I personally loathe them...counted on one hand.

It's pretty bizarre that you admit you've never played 2e but also are more than happy to say you loath it. Especially since you seem to think you can count the number of choices you make in it on one hand, you'd need a freakish number of fingers for that to be true.

I think they were talking about the game, not the ttRPG system.

[Lord Falco]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by Mauman:

And I'm hoping they stay forever more with 1e.

Dude, 2nd edition is awesome. They made the halfbreed races (Half Elf, Half Orc, Tiefling, Aasimar, Changeling, Dhampir) heritages that could be applied to every race, instead of just humans!

some rpeffer edition 2 like you while others preffer edition 1. like me. i wish pf1 and or dnd 3.5 got mroe lvoe isntea dof all the pf2 and dnd 5th now.

[Lord Falco]

Originally posted by macadami:

5e DND and 2e Pathfinder both aimed to make the game easier to play tabletop, they both simplified almost as much as possible. Their idea is that human players hate complicated math and relying on the DM to catch and judge all esoteric rules makes playing the game difficult or less fun....

We are playing computer games though. The computer does the math, keeps up with the rules, and while I haven't played Pathfinder 2e....5e makes it so everyone can basically do everything with very little choices that steer your character. I guess i can see where roleplayers who solely play to pretend to be a 3' tall orc cleric who doesn't actually heal but backstabs and plays bardic music, these systems are perfect where playing -is- roleplaying not tactical combat, preparations, or any sort of other challenge, just enjoying pretending to be whom you want.

I personally loathe them, because I mainly play these rulesets on computer, where simplification isn't needed and not where preplanned characters are pointless or the choices you make all counted on one hand.

honeatly i love dnd 3.5 and pf1 caus eof the many optiosn and chocies, if ur not minmaxing table top tis jsut plain awesome with how much u can do. i hate for exmaple how dnd 5th is so much simpler then 3.5. jsut not my thing