Daeran starts out staggered, why?

[Moobert]

Everytime I enter combat, he is staggered for three rounds. What am I doing wrong?

[Uzkin]

It's his Oracle curse.

[Moobert]

Originally posted by Uzkin:

It's his Oracle curse.

I had no idea!!! Thank you!

[lhj]

I thought it was a bug untill I saw this. Makes me not want to play with that companion. Its absolutely horrible to play with.

[Leonhast]

But for me, he is an extremely good healer.

[lhj]

Originally posted by Leonhast:

But for me, he is an extremely good healer.

Its just super annoying to play with and since he comes with that curse we don't get a choice as players. Except not using him ofc which im personally leaning towards.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by lhj:

I thought it was a bug untill I saw this. Makes me not want to play with that companion. Its absolutely horrible to play with.

You think starting the first round of combat staggered is a problem?

Ember has the Blackened curse, which gives her a -4 penalty on ALL weapon attack rolls. This gets reduced to -2 after reaching 10th level, but still. A penalty for all weapon attacks, means she's essentially forced to rely entirely on spell casting to contribute to battle.

[wirednight]

Daeran is a horrible combat character anyway. Respec him, give him a short bow, and he ends up contributing a lot more.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Leonhast:

But for me, he is an extremely good healer.

Of course he is. Channel Energy is based on your Charisma score, and he's a Charisma based caster. You can also take the Mythic feat that increases the potency of all healing spells / channels you do.

[TAOBECIN NOV NORAB]

If it's only 3 rounds then that's a big improvement. During the beta I had him staggered for a year and a half at one point, because it was improperly applying it on random encounters on the world map. I had to take him out of my party until I taught Seelah to remove the Staggered condition with her lay on hands.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by n00b Boat-senpai:

If it's only 3 rounds then that's a big improvement. During the beta I had him staggered for a year and a half at one point, because it was improperly applying it on random encounters on the world map. I had to take him out of my party until I taught Seelah to remove the Staggered condition with her lay on hands.

It's supposed to only be 1 round, as per the table top rules. It's the Powerless Prophecy curse.

"You are forewarned of danger but can’t act to prevent it. You gain uncanny dodge, as the rogue class feature. However, you can’t take any actions in a surprise round, including free actions, except for flash of insight (see Revelations below). In the absence of a surprise round, you are staggered for the entire first round of combat. At 5th level, you gain a +4 insight bonus on initiative checks. At 10th level, you gain improved uncanny dodge as the rogue ability, using your oracle level as your rogue level. At 15th level, you gain a +4 insight bonus on all your saving throws and to your AC during surprise rounds and when you are otherwise unaware of an attack."

That's from Nethys Library, which I believe is associated with and supported by Paizo.

[NixAhmose]

Originally posted by Leonhast:

But for me, he is an extremely good healer.

I imagine you can make him a good healer, but to me Ember with abundant casting is a way better healer who can also provide a ton of utility besides healing. Every time I have Darean in my group I just feel like I'm using a worse version of Ember who has way less utility and more drawbacks.

[MeldinX2]

Originally posted by NixAhmose:

Originally posted by Leonhast:

But for me, he is an extremely good healer.

I imagine you can make him a good healer, but to me Ember with abundant casting is a way better healer who can also provide a ton of utility besides healing. Every time I have Darean in my group I just feel like I'm using a worse version of Ember who has way less utility and more drawbacks.

Except Ember is better to use as a pure damage dealing mage. Instead of having to use her for healing when she could be in the backline flinging evocation spells.

[NixAhmose]

Originally posted by MeldinX2:

Originally posted by NixAhmose:

I imagine you can make him a good healer, but to me Ember with abundant casting is a way better healer who can also provide a ton of utility besides healing. Every time I have Darean in my group I just feel like I'm using a worse version of Ember who has way less utility and more drawbacks.

Except Ember is better to use as a pure damage dealing mage. Instead of having to use her for healing when she could be in the backline flinging evocation spells.

Ehhh, I feel like Nenio and maybe Camerilla has that position perfectly covered on her own. Don't get me wrong, its good to use Ember for damage when applicable, but to me Ember should be focusing on debuffing enemies first, then healing up allies with her crap ton of spell slots, and then deal damage when she can.

[MeldinX2]

Originally posted by NixAhmose:

Originally posted by MeldinX2:

Except Ember is better to use as a pure damage dealing mage. Instead of having to use her for healing when she could be in the backline flinging evocation spells.

Ehhh, I feel like Nenio and maybe Camerilla has that position perfectly covered on her own. Don't get me wrong, its good to use Ember for damage when applicable, but to me Ember should be focusing on debuffing enemies first, then healing up allies with her crap ton of spell slots, and then deal damage when she can.

I mean she could be used effectivly as the way you are using her i'm sure. It depends on your party composition i guess. But if you focus on making Ember a pure fire based evocation caster she can really melt enemies quickly. Aswell as using hexes for debuffs.

I don't like Nenio since she is more suited to be an illusion caster.

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

Originally posted by Moobert:

Originally posted by Uzkin:

It's his Oracle curse.

I had no idea!!! Thank you!

Yes its also the best curse in the game because it gives him uncanny dodge meaning he can NEVER be flanked and i think improved uncanny dodge later. its WORTH the 1 round of stagger...