Even for free, it's not worth it.

[Razorius]

Like, this is a game that even LiS fans are calling boring... and this one is very pushy about certain things on top of that(Guess why it's free during June?).

It's the kind of game I'd only consider playing if I was paid for every minute subjecting myself to it XD

[Qiana]

Even at twice the regular price, this game would be worth it, and everyone should be grateful that it is free every June.

It's the kind of game that everyone should play, or be forced to play, just like those literary classics where you either read this Albert Camus' Stranger or you never get your diploma as proof that you successfully completed your primary education.

This game deals with real problems of real people in the real world in a very respectful way and without any "propaganda".

One of the main characters has all your problems plus one, and this one alone is a burden that would break many people.

On top of that, there is a wonderful fairy tale book inside that could teach you a lot, if you read it carefully.

This book alone is already worth your time and playing this game.

[Pugzer]

"very pushy about certain things on top of that" I have a fun fact for you, this game is actually about a trans guys life! That's why it's about trans and queer topics! Would you say a story about superheroes is "very pushy on the topic of superpowers"? No, because you aren't bigoted against superheroes, you're just bigoted against queer people.

[Qiana]

Originally posted by Pugzer:

"very pushy about certain things on top of that" I have a fun fact for you, this game is actually about a trans guys life! That's why it's about trans and queer topics!

And how exactly is showing "trans guys life" is "very pushy"?

Originally posted by Pugzer:

Would you say a story about superheroes is "very pushy on the topic of superpowers"? No, because you aren't bigoted against superheroes, you're just bigoted against queer people.

Superheroes and stories about their lives are only for kids and idiots.
Trans people are real people—kinda, the people next door.
Their stories are worth being told and heard.

[kitty]

Originally posted by Qiana:

It's the kind of game that everyone should play, or be forced to play

wow, careful there
no one should be forced to play anything they don't feel worthy of their attention.

Originally posted by Qiana:

Trans people are real people—kinda, the people next door.
Their stories are worth being told and heard.

what's so exciting about stories of confused people next door? I've seen a snippet where

main character loses it over having short haircut as a kid, thinking bad things would happen because she/he (?) cut the hair and now looks like a boy.
if the rest of the story is of same low quality, low effort account of someone's being a victim of their own gender stereotypes then what's the point?
such story has no value. that's basically every other reddit post in subreddits where people gather to whine about their lack of courage to confront their family and stand their ground.
boring.

[Qiana]

Originally posted by kitty:

Originally posted by Qiana:

It's the kind of game that everyone should play, or be forced to play

wow, careful there
no one should be forced to play anything they don't feel worthy of their attention.

That's how it works, if you think of it.

People generally always need to be forced to do something, otherwise a big part won't do anything at all, and you'd end up living in a country full of idiots.

That's why people are forced to go to school, to read the books...

Alternative is no diploma, no driving license...

Originally posted by kitty:

Originally posted by Qiana:

Trans people are real people—kinda, the people next door.
Their stories are worth being told and heard.

what's so exciting about stories of confused people next door? I've seen a snippet where

main character loses it over having short haircut as a kid, thinking bad things would happen because she/he (?) cut the hair and now looks like a boy.
if the rest of the story is of same low quality, low effort account of someone's being a victim of their own gender stereotypes then what's the point?
such story has no value. that's basically every other reddit post in subreddits where people gather to whine about their lack of courage to confront their family and stand their ground.
boring.

If you reduce it solely to that scene, then you are right. If you think of it in full context, then the child killed his own mother because it misjudged the situation at the time when it happened and believed in his own lie for a long time before the shadows of doubt returned...

[Qiana]

Originally posted by SteveLosive:

I live in gay/trans-free country ...

Just in case you live on Antarctica...

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/gay-male-penguins-steal-lesbian-couple-s-eggs-dutch-zoo-n1244575
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/08/14/same-sex-penguin-couples-keep-adopting-eggs-berlin-zoo-is-celebrating/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/gay-penguins-australia-magic-sphen-sydney-sea-life-aquarium-egg-a8738366.html

[kitty]

Originally posted by Qiana:

That's why people are forced to go to school, to read the books...

strange, maybe it's because of parenting. I'm sorry to hear your parents raised you by forcing everything. I had complete freedom, were interested in school, read whole summer reading list and grabbing new books from library for upcoming year of school was exciting event (in the old time they give you set of paper books and you returned them once the year is over)

my father always knew how to make studies exiting, I would do research and then we would try to do something together. repairing TV, growing 5 types of cabbage to see which one is the best for our soil and climate, watching rare birds in binoculars to notice when they migrate and when they return home. and so much more.

education is mandatory only for school. just to make sure you can read and count money in your wallet. however, 90% of people are enjoying their degrees, student life and everything around it. sorry to hear your perspective is so dark, but this is not the case for most people out there.

Originally posted by Qiana:

If you reduce it solely to that scene, then you are right. If you think of it in full context,

the full context is - what happened in that fist and 2d scene is

a sign of bad mental health of the kid. feeling haunted and expecting harm from your loving parent is extreme state and such kid should be forced into therapy immediately. there's something in their mind that causes them a) to be paranoid and out of touch with reality b) losing control and attacking their loved one, the figure no one should attack no matter how angry and scared they are c) not doing this in self defense but acting on delusion

from what I gather the mental state of the kid has no evaluation and since the game started from both of the siblings saying about their bad mom I see that story is bad and inaccurate regarding mental health of those affected. it seems like the kid who has to get therapy got it the wrong way (transitioning instead of dealing with underlying cause)

I don't want to waste my time on weak stories like that.

[WikiTora]

Originally posted by Qiana:

It's the kind of game that everyone should play, or be forced to play

I'm sorry, what?!

[Qiana]

Originally posted by kitty:

Originally posted by Qiana:

That's why people are forced to go to school, to read the books...

I had complete freedom, were interested in school, read whole summer reading list and grabbing new books from library for upcoming year of school was exciting event (in the old time they give you set of paper books and you returned them once the year is over)

No. That's the problem with basic understanding and people's minds.
You completely misunderstand my words (again and again).

As quoted above, "Compulsory school attendance or schooling means that parents are required to send their children to a government-approved school".

This means that your parents have to send you to an assigned school, whether you want it or not, whether you like it or not, etc. What you want is of no interest to anyone but you. You are allowed to go to school, but you are not allowed not to go.

You could say that people are forced to send their children to school, which is true, because there is a punishment for not doing so. Usually the police are sent to your home to pick up your child and take him or her to school.

You could also say that you are lucky to get the chance to go to school, which many children never get, but that would still not make it a "complete freedom", because it is a freedom, but only as long as you follow the rules.

Just some examples:

https://www.gov.uk/school-attendance-absence/legal-action-to-enforce-school-attendance
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-politics/parental-fines-considered-for-poor-show-pupils/7195308
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2024/03/27/travelling-during-school-time-here-are-the-fines-parents-could-face-across-europe

Originally posted by kitty:

from what I gather ...

It's hard to gather if you haven't even played the game.
It's even harder to gather if you don't have the basic "gathering tools.
Just playing a game, watching a movie, or reading a book isn't enough to understand it.

[Qiana]

Originally posted by WikiTora:

Originally posted by Qiana:

It's the kind of game that everyone should play, or be forced to play

I'm sorry, what?!

- game about real (== imperfect) people
- a thoughtful, atmospheric narrative adventure
- not afraid to talk about uncomfortable topics
- compelling, complex, and well written characters
- subtle and mature storytelling, dealing with real-world problems
- well-written dialogue, mundane yet charming exploration, and whimsical fairy tale

https://www.gamesradar.com/tell-me-why-review/
https://www.ign.com/articles/tell-me-why-review
https://screenrant.com/tell-me-why-game-review/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/reviews/tell-me-why-game-review/
https://seasonedgaming.com/2020/09/15/review-tell-me-why-a-memorable-journey/
https://www.eurogamer.net/tell-me-why-review-memory-and-identity-converge-in-another-taut-young-adult-adventure
https://venturebeat.com/games/tell-me-why-review-a-parable-for-diverse-perspectives-and-traveling-in-someone-elses-shoes/
https://www.theguardian.com/games/2020/sep/14/tell-me-why-game-review-a-poetic-exploration-of-memory-against-a-stunning-alaskan-landscape
https://thesuffolkjournal.com/31866/featured/game-review-tell-me-why-raises-the-bar-with-first-transgender-protagonist/

[Qiana]

Originally posted by kitty:

I don't want to play this pathetic game ...

Such a statement doesn't really surprise me, after reading your other posts.

You say the game is pathetic, but you haven't played it. If you haven't played it, you can't know if it's pathetic or not. If you don't know and don't want to find out, you shouldn't discuss what you don't know, right? But you discuss it anyway. Trashing time too...

And yes, just playing it, doesn't mean that you'll be able to understand any of it.

[Qiana]

Originally posted by kitty:

Originally posted by Qiana:

You say the game is pathetic, but you haven't played it. If you haven't played it

since I can see this game is built on false narrative and has inaccurate representation of mental health, and main character is a person with serious mental health issues I don't have to play it to know what the story is.

Originally posted by kitty:

I don't want to play this pathetic game because it affirms the harmful ways the government and health care handles such people. they're failing them and game story turns a blind eye on that.

I don't have to waste 20 hours of my time to see someone who needs to be sent to psychiatrist asap. especially when game shows "before" and "after" in the opening scene.

You can't see anything at all - you can't even read text in context over just half a dozen posts, within a single thread, and see the nonsense.

If anything here is pathetic, it's you and your lookalikes who don't want to play the game, but still come here to the game forum to complain about the game you haven't played and don't even want to play.

That's trolling by definition.

[kitty]

Originally posted by Qiana:

That's trolling by definition.

trolling is what you're doing here in every single thread.

I provided my opinion why I don't want to play this game, I'm pretty much entitled to it.
if you don't like it, can't accept it, it's not my problem. grow a pair and learn how to accept different points of view without throwing tantrums and calling people trolls for voicing their opinion.

[Qiana]

Originally posted by kitty:

Originally posted by Qiana:

That's trolling by definition.

trolling is what you're doing here in every single thread.

I provided my opinion why I don't want to play this game, I'm pretty much entitled to it.
if you don't like it, can't accept it, it's not my problem. grow a pair and learn how to accept different points of view without throwing tantrums and calling people trolls for voicing their opinion.

That's (again) completely wrong, and whether I like it or not, or agree with it or not, is completely irrelevant, because...

You DON'T have an opinion, and you CAN'T have an opinion (but you think you do).

Don't believe everything you think.

[kitty]

Originally posted by Qiana:

You DON'T have an opinion, and you CAN'T have an opinion (but you think you do).

projecting much?
unlike you, I can have my own opinion and I have what it takes to defend it.
game story is pathetic and portrays trans people as psychos.
take it or leave.