FAITH
Karate Man Oct 26, 2022 @ 11:44am
Faith Soundtrack
Does anyone know why Near the Cross was removed and replaced by Monk Eventide Calechismus Version? It was my favourite track. It plays in the game at least but still.
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El Oshcuro  [developer] Oct 26, 2022 @ 1:17pm 
Something about copyright something something
Airdorf  [developer] Oct 26, 2022 @ 11:08pm 
Despite the tune being from the 1800s, the old main menu theme kept getting copyright claims on YouTube from some record label in Brazil, supposedly for a Korean song which uses the tune to Near the Cross in its chorus.

Since YouTube is more interested in pandering to the whims of corporations rather than taking care of its creator base, I decided to change the main menu music for something that was without a doubt public domain, rather than leave creators to have to dispute existing and future copyright claims.
ragnarokb Oct 28, 2022 @ 1:00am 
It's funny, I'm a recovering Catholic with no real emotional ties to my old faith... except for the hymns. And as much as I love Near The Cross, I was kinda thrilled to see Eventide on the soundtrack instead because that song just gets me right in the feels every time, for reasons I cannot even explain. Plus it reminds me of that great teaser for the first game. "Help of the helpless, O abide... with... SUFFER!!!!!!!!" So thanks for the excellent choice in replacement.
AJ_Fowl Oct 28, 2022 @ 7:05pm 
Originally posted by Airdorf:
Despite the tune being from the 1800s, the old main menu theme kept getting copyright claims on YouTube from some record label in Brazil, supposedly for a Korean song which uses the tune to Near the Cross in its chorus.

Since YouTube is more interested in pandering to the whims of corporations rather than taking care of its creator base, I decided to change the main menu music for something that was without a doubt public domain, rather than leave creators to have to dispute existing and future copyright claims.

Is there any chance you can set a "streamer mode" that changes the music? Or at least include the original in the soundtrack? I noticed it was changed there too.
Johnny Casey Oct 30, 2022 @ 12:29am 
Weird. In my game, Near The Cross does not even play in the game. What's more weird is that it surely played when I played it for the first time.

Is it because I've bought the soundtrack and those are overriding the main menu music, or has there been an update that I didn't recognize?
Mecha Jesus Oct 30, 2022 @ 1:45am 
I should read discussions before I post. I asked if they changed the music, and wasn't sure if I was being possessed. Thank you for answering the question.
ragnarokb Oct 30, 2022 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by Johnny Casey:
Weird. In my game, Near The Cross does not even play in the game. What's more weird is that it surely played when I played it for the first time.

Is it because I've bought the soundtrack and those are overriding the main menu music, or has there been an update that I didn't recognize?

I could be mistaken, but I believe the update that came out the other day changed the music to Eventide. At least that's when I noticed the change.
Kumad Oct 31, 2022 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by Airdorf:
Since YouTube is more interested in pandering to the whims of corporations rather than taking care of its creator base, I decided to change the main menu music for something that was without a doubt public domain, rather than leave creators to have to dispute existing and future copyright claims.

Could there be a streamer mode? It feels really crappy as someone whos liked this game since it first came out. I feel super nostalgic over the Near The Cross rendition. Faith was the first ever "Indie" game i bought, the first game in itchi i eve bought. it feels equally crappy non content creators are getting a changed version with no say. I'd really wish if you could reconsider this and put back in the game somehow. I love the games and i love your work.
TerdMcFerguson Oct 31, 2022 @ 9:19pm 
Originally posted by Airdorf:
Despite the tune being from the 1800s, the old main menu theme kept getting copyright claims on YouTube from some record label in Brazil, supposedly for a Korean song which uses the tune to Near the Cross in its chorus.

Since YouTube is more interested in pandering to the whims of corporations rather than taking care of its creator base, I decided to change the main menu music for something that was without a doubt public domain, rather than leave creators to have to dispute existing and future copyright claims.

I understand your frustrations, but it would be nice to see Near the Cross returned in a future update. To me it is the one-and-only "Faith theme"
Rei dos Vermes Nov 2, 2022 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by AJ_Fowl:
Originally posted by Airdorf:
Despite the tune being from the 1800s, the old main menu theme kept getting copyright claims on YouTube from some record label in Brazil, supposedly for a Korean song which uses the tune to Near the Cross in its chorus.

Since YouTube is more interested in pandering to the whims of corporations rather than taking care of its creator base, I decided to change the main menu music for something that was without a doubt public domain, rather than leave creators to have to dispute existing and future copyright claims.

Is there any chance you can set a "streamer mode" that changes the music? Or at least include the original in the soundtrack? I noticed it was changed there too.

Great ideia! Give us the option to change the music. The game isn't the same without "Near of the Cross" playing on the menu.
Kumad Nov 4, 2022 @ 3:03pm 
What made Near The Cross so good was how straight it was played. this had to intentional
by Airdorf. When you load the game you are greeted to the song playing, you can then select how to play and you are given a fun wholesome lesson of picking up apples and reading bible quotes. your then taught how to cast how demons and said demons are portrayed as the most typical and cartoonish devil horned demons and the whole time you have the upbeat hopeful near the cross playing. Reality comes crashing down on you like a brick when the much more foreboding moonlight sonata starts playing and you see the true nature of the game and the creature. I went in totally blind to this game and that was my experience and it just felt so intentional, it was genius.

on that same note though its a superb overarching theme for all 3 games. It depends on your interpretation of the story and events but theres something admirable? poetic? about a man totally out of his depth facing creatures beyond our understanding and doing so with nothing but a dinky little a cross, his faith and the hymn near the cross.

Maybe im reading way to far into all of this and Airdorf just threw in some songs with no real meaning for the original game but to me it felt very intentional.

I really hope we get a return of the title theme when things blow over. its just not faith without it. the very first thing i did when getting this collection was going into the how to play and getting into the mood before i started chapter 3.
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Date Posted: Oct 26, 2022 @ 11:44am
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