Energy Crises Event. Bunch of BS. Ranty Ranter.

[BrowneHawk]

I just got this event in my game 2037. I don't get why they thought this is fun, without having good events that counter it. I'm paying almost 40k 20k water and other resources, really? No events in game that net me that much, so why am I paying them? Then I still get debuffs to nations stats like econ welfare ect.

In the event it even says some may even be able to profit off it. I'm playing as Initiative, I lead the research, when is it my chance to profit? Because I'm feeling robbed right now by some cheezy in game event that is attempting to make things more difficult for me through unavoidable events that the AI most likely didn't even get.

I went to bed right after, but really hoping all those resources I pay comes back to be in some type of monetary value. The research says this will add plus 1 to the world energy blah blah. So I don't get why the event poped when the world has just been gifted fusion reactor tech through global research.

Also wondering for next game, can this be avoiding by getting to fusion tech faster?

[BrowneHawk]

Global Energy Crisis is an event that can happen at any point once 15 years have passed and is warned in the description of certain technologies. It has the following effects:

All nations will gain Inequality. Nations without Resource Regions will lose GDP while nations with Resource Regions will gain GDP.
Factions can pay Volatiles to reduce the effect to 75% in nations they control.
If the Nuclear Fission in Space global research has been completed factions can pay Money and Fissiles to reduce the effect to 66% in nations they control.
If the Nuclear Fusion in Space global research has been completed factions can pay Money, Water and Noble Metals to reduce the effect to 50% in nations they control.

This description from the wiki. That 50% feels just as bad as the 75%

[wei270]

that is why there are lots of tech that reduce global energy crisis chance.

[Blaze Shadowflame]

Originally posted by wei270:

that is why there are lots of tech that reduce global energy crisis chance.

Be nice if they also reduce the cost of the event too. The quantity of resources it demands are ridiculous.

[ulzgoroth]

The fact that it requires space resources to solve an Earth problem is pretty weird too. The Volatiles mitigation is the worst. Shipping combustion engine fuel from space.

[gimmethegepgun]

Both water and volatiles are ridiculous to supply to Earth from space. 70% of Earth's surface is water and most of the rest of the surface is volatiles.

[ulzgoroth]

Originally posted by gimmethegepgun:

Both water and volatiles are ridiculous to supply to Earth from space. 70% of Earth's surface is water and most of the rest of the surface is volatiles.

Well yeah, shipping water to earth is easily the dumbest possible thing. I don't remember that though. Might have glossed over it I guess since I didn't have enough noble metals anyway.

[Eltoron]

There are a much worth events in game. For example the one that decrease the world GDP by half. Without any options at all. But this one pretty hard to get without an active players "help".

[BrowneHawk]

I was so annoyed at the cost I didn't even think of the concept of shipping water to a world filled with it.

Also world energy level. I could be missing it, but pretty sure its not in intel under global, Didn't see anything. For my next run through how the heck am I even supposed to know where the world stands on its power supply? Rather research drives sooner to avoid this event if its possible.

[ulzgoroth]

Originally posted by BrowneHawk:

I was so annoyed at the cost I didn't even think of the concept of shipping water to a world filled with it.

Also world energy level. I could be missing it, but pretty sure its not in intel under global, Didn't see anything. For my next run through how the heck am I even supposed to know where the world stands on its power supply? Rather research drives sooner to avoid this event if its possible.

I'm pretty sure that those techs don't prevent the event, but rather lower the base damage it will do.

[Riepah]

I also wasn't thrilled when that event showed up out of nowhere. I had already researched stuff that should allegedly help against energy crises too, but without any indicator how close you are to disaster, that little tooltip in the research is completely worthless and unrewarding. What good does it do that I allegedly decreased the chance of it happening when it happens anyway and I've no way to even see what the likelihood was before and after? That event needs some work, I think.

EDIT: Or maybe the base damage, as ulz said. I don't have the slightest clue what those techs do at all, that's why it feels bad.

[AgaresOaks]

Originally posted by gimmethegepgun:

Both water and volatiles are ridiculous to supply to Earth from space. 70% of Earth's surface is water and most of the rest of the surface is volatiles.

For volatiles, you're presumably shipping something smarter (probably methane). Not PRACTICAL (the amount you'd be putting on Earth from what I recall is barely a drop in comparison to global consumption), but slightly less stupid.

Technically speaking, shipping pure deuterium/tritium/helium-3 might make sense for "water" to bootstrap the reactors, but there's no way you have that much just kicking around.

[gimmethegepgun]

Originally posted by AgaresOaks:

Technically speaking, shipping pure deuterium/tritium/helium-3 might make sense for "water" to bootstrap the reactors, but there's no way you have that much just kicking around.

Regarding Tritium, it's probably barely a factor at all in water in space. It's radioactive, with a half-life of only 12.3 years, and the very small amount present on Earth is created by cosmic rays interacting with Nitrogen in the atmosphere. An atmosphere isn't much of a consideration for just about any visitable object in the solar system other than Earth and Titan.
Tritium used in fusion in space will almost entirely be generated from Lithium or maybe Boron, since they can fission into Tritium when they absorb neutrons. There's also a very small amount created from heavy-element fission.