Is minor nation building viable?

[gespenst]

I haven't tried this since the first demo and from what I heard it is not remotely possible to grow a smaller nation into a major power base. The best you get is getting them merged into one of the existing Superpowers power block or absorbed as a background member of a coalition.

I just wanted to know if that information was correct since I do occasionally get tired of playing the EU, United States of America, Russian Federation, or Peoples Republic of China.

[Blaze Shadowflame]

It's viable if you intend to combine them into a larger nation like the Caliphate or the South American Union at some point. Beyond that though, you'll never have, say, the Nigerian Confederation or the Central American Confederation overtake any of what you've mentioned unless the AI gets very spoils-happy early on.

[gimmethegepgun]

Minor nations just don't have the IPs or the Core/Resource regions needed to become major ones.
That said, small nations are plenty capable of creating MC, Boost, and Funding (in fact, they're way better at it, due to cube root scaling on IPs, and the increased CP cost large nations have due to more CPs in them, which is why the EU is much better than the other major powers in the long term, since you have the constituent states build up these values while you wait for your ability to Unify them)

[Siger]

no,go for big boy USA/INDIA/CHINA/EU then form trash into mega trash then build it up

[RawCode]

population is only real resource of a nation, you want as much population as possible and with most nations there are no methods to increase it.

you go for nation that already have high population, like China or India or can merge into gigastate via tech, Caliphate is largest possible nation, reaching 8b population without cheats or exploits.

second largest nation is India, it will reach 3b with single tech and natural growth.

USA is strongest nation at start of the game, but it can't actually grow due to lack of population and ever if you merge all possible regions, it will not reach 1b.

[gespenst]

Thank you all for the input!

Unfortunate that it seems minor nations are rather lackluster as an option but so be it.

[silburnl]

Minor nations that remain as minor nations will cost more admin capacity and counsellor actions but a 'smaller nations' strat should be viable.

Most of the action from the mid-game on is out in space, so the fact that you haven't blobbed your motley grab bag of 1-3 region nations into a couple of mega-nations shouldn't be a major issue.

[corisai]

Originally posted by gespenst:

Unfortunate that it seems minor nations are rather lackluster as an option but so be it.

No, currently ANY Earth nations are lacklusters compared with space research&manufactoring (but honestly - going into space IS a major goal for humanity in the game).

So by staying "minor" you will be a bit weaker in early game (as less research mean less ability to control global science) but could snowball almost as much as superpowers later.

[RawCode]

later, you will notice that small nations are impossible to keep, random AI agent with 20 command will coup you every turn and you can't do anything about it, and no, assassination will not work and takedown too, it got natural 20 CMD via faction org.