About Phoenix

[void]

When the Servants win, all nations on earth will be transferred to the alien nation.
as they are immune to purges and coups, other then wait a rebellion, are there any method to take a land back without an country on earth?
and since it is a world wide nation, the populate make public campaign and increase unrest has a success rate nearly 0 even with 25 stats. how to solve it? or is it just I missed the technology?

[Koalemos]

Lots of techs will drive up your ability to force a revolution - and you can always entirely destroy the aliens in space while you work on the tech tree

[The Shadow Rose]

I recommend nukes. Lots of nukes. Nuke the worlds gdp centers into the dust and then into hell. Your not gonna own the world anyway and low gdp pops build up eco fast if you go full eco when you retake something.

Make the world glow and with less than 10 trillion gdp its not nearly as impossible.

[steeldog]

can't understand what means "after win" how can i change my faction after winning? i won by protectorate and only have seen authors list after that. saw no way to continue play for other factions.

[Galroche]

Originally posted by steeldog:

can't understand what means "after win" how can i change my faction after winning? i won by protectorate and only have seen authors list after that. saw no way to continue play for other factions.

It's an achievement for the resistance, to win a game after the servant already won. you don't play another faction you play as the resistance, you let the servant win(complete their main quest), and then you win.

[steeldog]

Originally posted by Galroche:

Originally posted by steeldog:

can't understand what means "after win" how can i change my faction after winning? i won by protectorate and only have seen authors list after that. saw no way to continue play for other factions.

It's an achievement for the resistance, to win a game after the servant already won. you don't play another faction you play as the resistance, you let the servant win(complete their main quest), and then you win.

oh... to let them win... actually such strange goal for resistance.
it's better for devs to give possibility to play another faction after win.

[gimmethegepgun]

Originally posted by steeldog:

it's better for devs to give possibility to play another faction after win.

Why would they do that?

[steeldog]

Originally posted by gimmethegepgun:

Originally posted by steeldog:

it's better for devs to give possibility to play another faction after win.

Why would they do that?

because it's stupid to succumb when playing for Resistance to make this achievement.
I feel sorry for you, that you can't understand such obvious thing )

[Galroche]

Originally posted by steeldog:

Originally posted by gimmethegepgun:

Why would they do that?

because it's stupid to succumb when playing for Resistance to make this achievement.
I feel sorry for you, that you can't understand such obvious thing )

the entire point of the achievement is to make a comeback ... not sure what you don't understand here.

[steeldog]

Originally posted by Galroche:

Originally posted by steeldog:

because it's stupid to succumb when playing for Resistance to make this achievement.
I feel sorry for you, that you can't understand such obvious thing )

the entire point of the achievement is to make a comeback ... not sure what you don't understand here.

the entire point of the achievement is to lose firstly... not sure what you don't understand what is illogical here.

but actually i know. you can't comprehend that goal to allow enemies win isn't look logical from point of view of resistance.
Fiyona is sitting in her base:
- ok guys we must to acheve that great success. but first we must help our enemies to win.
- what?! what for? will it helps us win more easily?
- no. of course no.
- but what for should we allow them to win?
- ... em... just because... because... so, you know, it's like phoenix right? he dies first but then reborn again and we have phoenix as a sybol so...

if such goals isn't looks stuppid from your point of view... in this case i have no idea how to help you )

[noobermenschen]

Originally posted by void:

When the Servants win, all nations on earth will be transferred to the alien nation.

Did NOT know that - I thought you could hang on to North America and other low pop rich nations and make a comeback from there, as the AA just needed 65% of human population for a Servant win.

That means all your MC has to come from space. This achievement now looks an order of magnitude harder.

[[NcK]MasterShake|CM]

Originally posted by The Shadow Rose:

I recommend nukes. Lots of nukes. Nuke the worlds gdp centers into the dust and then into hell. Your not gonna own the world anyway and low gdp pops build up eco fast if you go full eco when you retake something.

Make the world glow and with less than 10 trillion gdp its not nearly as impossible.

From somewhere, Curtis Lemay is smiling down on you.

[void]

Originally posted by steeldog:

Originally posted by Galroche:

the entire point of the achievement is to make a comeback ... not sure what you don't understand here.

the entire point of the achievement is to lose firstly... not sure what you don't understand what is illogical here.

but actually i know. you can't comprehend that goal to allow enemies win isn't look logical from point of view of resistance.
Fiyona is sitting in her base:
- ok guys we must to acheve that great success. but first we must help our enemies to win.
- what?! what for? will it helps us win more easily?
- no. of course no.
- but what for should we allow them to win?
- ... em... just because... because... so, you know, it's like phoenix right? he dies first but then reborn again and we have phoenix as a sybol so...

if such goals isn't looks stuppid from your point of view... in this case i have no idea how to help you )

isn't all achievement that not simply complete the game is illogical to you?
most achievement in most games are challenge on restricted gameplay, testing on how to setup the scenario, repeating actions, none to those will lead to win easier.

indeed I really enjoy this achievement, because it is not just setup a world that servants can win, but also setup a weak point in that seems total victory and strike back. If that flaw is planted simply by playing as servant before switch, then it is a shame

[corisai]

Originally posted by void:

isn't all achievement that not simply complete the game is illogical to you?
most achievement in most games are challenge on restricted gameplay, testing on how to setup the scenario, repeating actions, none to those will lead to win easier.

This achievement also a big hint for players - you CAN build a sustainable space economy even without having anything from Earth.

[steeldog]

Originally posted by void:

isn't all achievement that not simply complete the game is illogical to you?

isn't

Originally posted by void:

most achievement in most games are challenge on restricted gameplay, testing on how to setup the scenario, repeating actions, none to those will lead to win easier.

where i said something about easier or not?
i said - illogical.

Originally posted by void:

indeed I really enjoy this achievement, because it is not just setup a world that servants can win, but also setup a weak point in that seems total victory and strike back. If that flaw is planted simply by playing as servant before switch, then it is a shame

why it is a shame? it's bigger shame to consider as win situation which actually isn't win. you just try to reach some strange and illogical criterias from point of lore, before win. but in case switching you will try to reborn really destroyed faction. it would be difficult to cheating like fictitious win of servants.

[gimmethegepgun]

Originally posted by corisai:

Originally posted by void:

isn't all achievement that not simply complete the game is illogical to you?
most achievement in most games are challenge on restricted gameplay, testing on how to setup the scenario, repeating actions, none to those will lead to win easier.

This achievement also a big hint for players - you CAN build a sustainable space economy even without having anything from Earth.

It's also a hint to the player that the Servants or Protectorate winning isn't actually the end of the game (for the other factions).