Actually killing hydras

[SirKnechtalot]

I´ve difficulties killing their agents. My "Combat" agent´s 18 in combat and i´ve 4 xenoscanners in low orbit but still with 128 ops i get measly 20% success? Of course i fail 100% of the time. Too little skill? Too few stations? Booth?

And yes i tried to follow them and keep a very keen eye (or dozen cyborgy ones) on them.

What am i doing wrong here?

[thomashenders]

You need better combat rating. Concentrate combat power in one Agent.
don't forget about your special XCOM-like org it gives a huge boost to combat
Until then just keep taking 20% wing shots. I recommend covering your shooter with a defend action as the Aliens are Hard Targets.

[Badger BrownCoat]

you're not doing it wrong; it's not easy.
I mena; yeha things you could better, but sounds like you're onto that.
other options may appear that are only slightly less difficult in the future-
and don' be afraid to steal an org or two if it's pumping his sceurity- well; aside from the ones you can't take.
I think that's a spoiler-free response.
keep up the good work, innit?
( ps: thomas- i think that's resistance-specific... and I'm glad I'm not the only one who got it and laughed " now I have xcom" )

[Eltoron]

You need espionage to assassinate, not command. What you mean under "18 in combat"?

[utilityguy]

I'm under the impression that if multiple hydras are in the same region, then the game combines their individual security rating into one pile that is taken into consideration when you're using actions against Hydras within that region.

Meaning that two Hydras within a single region will have a combined security rating of 50, which means it's impossible to kill them.

[SirKnechtalot]

Originally posted by Eltoron:

You need espionage to assassinate, not command. What you mean under "18 in combat"?

You don´t have a "combat" agent? A "propagandist", "science adviser"? I thought speacializing was better than have mediocre jack of all trades?

[fortydayweekend]

There's a lot of orgs that increase Espionage, pile them all into one agent.

Maximum Effort tech also helps

Stealing some of the alien's +Security orgs

Waiting for them to leave Servant territory (or ideally enter your own) because of CP bonuses

Or if you just can't kill them it's not a big deal, you only have to kill one for the plot.

[SirKnechtalot]

Originally posted by Badger BrownCoat:

you're not doing it wrong; it's not easy.
I mena; yeha things you could better, but sounds like you're onto that.
other options may appear that are only slightly less difficult in the future-
and don' be afraid to steal an org or two if it's pumping his sceurity- well; aside from the ones you can't take.
I think that's a spoiler-free response.
keep up the good work, innit?
( ps: thomas- i think that's resistance-specific... and I'm glad I'm not the only one who got it and laughed " now I have xcom" )

Allright then just had "bad" luck (and various Xenofaunas running rampart). I believed i got into sort of a death spiral with that bloom all over the place. All i need´s more argument enhancers then.

[fortydayweekend]

Originally posted by SirKnechtalot:

Originally posted by Eltoron:

You need espionage to assassinate, not command. What you mean under "18 in combat"?

You don´t have a "combat" agent? A "propagandist", "science adviser"? I thought speacializing was better than have mediocre jack of all trades?

There is no "Combat" stat or mission though. Do you mean Command? That is different from Espionage

But yes, if you want to be assassinating aliens you need an Espionage specialist

[RawCode]

1) Max amplification
2) Get tech for bonus amplification, there are 2 or 3 upgrades that gives 128-256 and probably 512 options
3) Scout target to get max intel
4) Get all upgrades for org per month, stack espionage to 25, this is possible ever without faction org that gives self sustained 5
5) You may want cybernetics, but this is just +1-4 to all stats, not really worth it but still

6) Local control points provide bonus or penalty, you want entire council to be capable of crackdown, purge and coup, if alien spotted outside your controlled area, you make that area your own

7) With all possible bonuses you will get 90% chance on first wave and 40% on second wave on brutal difficulty for 256 ops action

8) don't forget about protect, ever 99% chance can throw critical failure and kill your agent

[SirKnechtalot]

Yeah i get it. They allways(?) went to servant territory after i spoted them and i failed there... I thought there was a mandatory tech i didn´t had or some other gimick i wasn´t aware of but it was simlply not enough lead flying their way.

Thanks for the quick hints.

[Captiva]

20% is not too bad and is doable.

I got lucky and had 18% last time I tried to capture live one and rolled a 1% for critical success.

[ArcticISAF]

There's a late tech that gives like +3 to assassinate, obv not really useful for early-mid game but it's nice to have when cleaning them up after.

[Badger BrownCoat]

Originally posted by SirKnechtalot:

Allright then just had "bad" luck (and various Xenofaunas running rampart). I believed i got into sort of a death spiral with that bloom all over the place. All i need´s more argument enhancers then.

bad luck, hard target -
but yeah in essence sounds like you got the gist-
and some good advice;
so just keep on slangin' an' bangin'

and lady luck, she can be awful fickle
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1176470/discussions/0/3481871357429038118/
<o

( walks off singing " O Fortuna" )

[Soylent_Greene]

if you have a 25 attribute and ORGS that raise the stat does they serve any purpose?

[corisai]

Originally posted by Soylent_Greene:

if you have a 25 attribute and ORGS that raise the stat does they serve any purpose?

No. But agent traits are in providing separate boost.