Can't lower cohesion in US

[Reizo Icefield]

I set everything that lower cohesion on 3, and reduced everything that rise it to 0 and yet its still shooting thru the roof.
It's like this for 10 years now.
Any advice?

[Charles]

If your goal is to get it to 5, then you might not have enough inequality. If I remember correctly the inequality sets the base line that cohesion wants to go to. You can increase inequality with economy and cutting the welfare. If you hover over it it should give you some info. Also knowledge moves it towards 5 but other factors can overpower it, like having 1 inequality.

[Reizo Icefield]

So people being unhappy is better then? That's confusing.
Yea I have 1 inequality in US

[Reizo Icefield]

Then what would be the value of inequality to aim for?

[Brakiros]

Originally posted by Reizo Icefield:

Then what would be the value of inequality to aim for?

2.8 is good spot

[Roy_Focker]

Investigate councilors in the USA and kill them. I had that issue but with Europe, India and Japan with high unrest. I started killing enemy councillors that are hostile to the Resistance (Servants/Protectorate) and my unrest started going down.

[Fiddler6291]

Are you in a lot of wars constantly? Being in a war (especially against a strong opponent) raises cohesion significantly. Same goes for rivals. A rival country that is max 1 CP different from you raises base cohesion by 0.5.
So you might get away with just ending a few rivalries

[RawCode]

in current version all AI factions rush USA and spam propaganda and unrest here.

murdering agents does work, AI have infinite amount of agents, but ones with high natural persuasion are limited, detain, steal all persuasion and admin orgs and then murder.

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Roy_Focker:

Investigate councilors in the USA and kill them. I had that issue but with Europe, India and Japan with high unrest. I started killing enemy councillors that are hostile to the Resistance (Servants/Protectorate) and my unrest started going down.

He's not reducing unrest, he said he wanted to reduce Cohesion, which means he wants the country fighting itself.
So basically max in Spoils and Economy. Or just 100% spoils, that would be faster.

[Charles]

Originally posted by Reizo Icefield:

Then what would be the value of inequality to aim for?

That kinda depends on what you want. If I were you I would mess around with your investments until you can get it slowly rising. Then when you hover over the tooltip for cohesion you will see where it is wanting to sit at. You could find a balance of investment that keeps cohesion pushed to about 5. You would need to invest a lot into knowledge to keep it there depending on the rest value.

You might also want high cohesion, it does help with holding a country. You can add some unity and some knowledge to keep both democracy and public opinion high. With that and high cohesion it makes it more resistant to being stolen away. You might get better investment out of it if you start moving your research production to space assets like labs and accepting that you will lose a good chunk of nation research from cohesion. It all depends on what you are wanting to do with said country.

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Charles:

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I was thinking, if he wanted to crash Cohesion fast, Spoils might work very "well" instead of economic investment.

[Reizo Icefield]

Yea, I might try spoil. Don't really like using it but I need more reaserch points. I'm at 2040 and have only 1,4k reaserch so yea.

Also, what is the cap for knowledge, I'm currently at 11.045.

[corisai]

Originally posted by Reizo Icefield:

Any advice?

Praise your favorite God - you have best possible situation in game.

I'm serious - top Cohesion make almost impossible to take this country from you. Why you want to reduce it is beyond my understanding - research NOT worth it.

Originally posted by Reizo Icefield:

Yea, I might try spoil. Don't really like using it but I need more reaserch points.

Research stations & bases are >>> Earth for science. I suggest to not destroy optimal Cohesion value just for a tiny bit of RP.

[Zuul]

What are you trying to do? If it’s just to bring it to 5, spend 100% on knowledge. This is both a short term and long term solution. Short term because knowledge itself will pull cohesion towards 5 on a temporary basis, and long term because, starting at 6.5 democracy score and increasing in effect as you go higher, democracy pulls it towards 5.

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Zuul:

What are you trying to do? If it’s just to bring it to 5, spend 100% on knowledge. This is both a short term and long term solution. Short term because knowledge itself will pull cohesion towards 5 on a temporary basis, and long term because, starting at 6.5 democracy score and increasing in effect as you go higher, democracy pulls it towards 5.

But the US is already close to the mark of 10 gov/10 know at the start, going pass that would reduce pop growth by 3.5% I think. Stacking more knowledge is going to hurt your already poor population growth.

[Charles]

Originally posted by Mistfox:

Originally posted by Charles:

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I was thinking, if he wanted to crash Cohesion fast, Spoils might work very "well" instead of economic investment.

Good point, I never use spoils and cringe at the prolific AI use of them. I kinda forgot they were a thing! But that is a good suggestion.