Who Else lets the Aliens destroy Africa?

[Dcethe]

I like to prioritize countries with potential or GDP. India, China and US are my favorite go-to's to lead whatever faction i am playing as. I have never tried to protect countries in africa and let them get destroyed by megafauna the aliens seem to love to develop there. was wondering if everyone else was the same or if there are some Terra Invicta players that try to unite africa in their playthroughs

[76561198859928956]

In general, the problem with Africa is perpetually high unrest. It means all the nations there are very inefficient in terms of producing investment points.

If you do manage to unite Africa though, it is basically India on steroids. You can blast its GDP past China within a couple of years and just never stop. Your miltech and everything else will still be kind of garbage though.

[Akameka]

Well you can't be everywhere and Africa is such a hasle with almost no benefits that they won't get any atention from me (unless an AA pop there, obvioulsy.)
I mean, we have an invasion to fight, we need to tech up NOW, not in 20 years when the aliens will already be enjoying our beaches with a cocktail. If you can't help NOW, then too bad for you.

Also, even if you can do something with it with lots of dedication, that means leaving USA, Russia, India, China, EU to other factions (especially to the servants). You don't want that. At all. All your african armies will make a surprised Pikachu face when USA will land 8 armies with 5 militech to spread some "alien democracy" in Africa.

Maybe later in the game, when most of my space and military projects will be done, but until that point, i'll just ignore it.

[Prisoner 76561197992841073]

Uh, ME. As well as South America and parts of Asia.

In my games it always goes like this:

Global North: blue zones, prosperity, staunch defenders, 0.1 second life expectancy for xenofauna, great walls
Global South: red zones, aliens running around everywhere, xeno megafauna, factional wars, extreme poverty

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Joostorm:

Uh, ME. As well as South America and parts of Asia.

In my games it always goes like this:

Global North: blue zones, prosperity, staunch defenders, 0.1 second life expectancy for xenofauna, great walls
Global South: red zones, aliens running around everywhere, xeno megafauna, factional wars, extreme poverty

I see we have a man of culture here lol.
Peace through power!

[RawCode]

Due to permanent unrest, only real method of taking care of Africa is war, you take control of "proper" nation and conquer "core" nation inside Africa, deploy army with DI (or nuke) and then declare wars with that nation (that hold claims) and rapidly merge multiple unstable nations into one with proper government.

Peaceful management of Africa is not quite possible.

[76561198859928956]

Originally posted by RawCode:

Due to permanent unrest, only real method of taking care of Africa is war, you take control of "proper" nation and conquer "core" nation inside Africa, deploy army with DI (or nuke) and then declare wars with that nation (that hold claims) and rapidly merge multiple unstable nations into one with proper government.

I hadn't actually considiered that.

An interesting strat for an Africa-only challenge might be to build an alliance of African states with armies, and just keep invading everyone who doesn't have armies to keep cohesion high.

You'd still be treading water until the African Union though.

[clarkeveritas]

The thing with Africa is that they have a TON of people but have underdeveloped economies. When you beef up your agents you can very quickly settle things down and with Advice you can beef up the countries very quickly. It might not be as easy as using the US or EU (screw China) but stacking multiple agents to stabilize and advice each nation- you can quickly end up with a continent that is low-unrest and rapidly growing. Direct investment can speed this up even more. I tried to do this on my first run but I gave in and traded it all in to take the US, Australia, Israel, and a few other random nations. The later techs that let you make super-nations could really help- as you could turn africa into a giant federation.

I just love how many ways you can go in this game.... and that's even before you hit the leaving-earth part of the game. I'm on my first run but I have so many cool ideas for a second run. China is the only pain-in-the-ass for some reason because it's really hard to start breaking into that country. But screw them- i'm fine with the US, Australia, and most of the Middle East led by Israel.

[Belrick]

Its a typical modern apologist woke game with fake biology. The sort of devs that would have one legged men winning donkey kicking contests just because the monopedals were falsely presented as just as capable at hopping.
What next? Europeans actually evolved arm flapping flight?
Paradox games since EU3 have been the worst for this.

[RawCode]

Getting all required unlocks to make Africa into meganation require you to control lots of "useful" nations.

And main issue here, instead of wasting resources on Africa, you can take control over more "useful" nations and push other factions here instead.

Currently there is no faction that want to "end suffering" on earth and do not care about space and aliens at all.

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Belrick:

Its a typical modern apologist woke game with fake biology. The sort of devs that would have one legged men winning donkey kicking contests just because the monopedals were falsely presented as just as capable at hopping.
What next? Europeans actually evolved arm flapping flight?
Paradox games since EU3 have been the worst for this.

... so letting the aliens destroy Africa is "woke". Hmm... You sure you're not reading the dictionary upside down? lol Because "let them die" is the most unwoke thing I would expect to come from that description.

[76561198859928956]

Originally posted by Mistfox:

... so letting the aliens destroy Africa is "woke". Hmm... You sure you're not reading the dictionary upside down? lol Because "let them die" is the most unwoke thing I would expect to come from that description.

I think it's mad that African nations can develop because it thinks they should be "biologically" incapable of doing so. Hopefully it never looks at real-life GDP growth rates, because I pity whoever would have to clean the mess off the walls..

[Seth'cor]

I was trying to unify Africa, but the AI fights you tooth and nail, taking countries and remove alliances right at the time you can unify. I had a ferw of the contries unified but kinda gave up for now.

[Veniczar B. Fontana]

Originally posted by Seth'cor:

I was trying to unify Africa, but the AI fights you tooth and nail, taking countries and remove alliances right at the time you can unify. I had a ferw of the contries unified but kinda gave up for now.

I think with the mega nations technologies you can probably invade and unite immediately.

But for this topic I'm the same as you guys... I won't fight for Africa, it's not worth it. The northern and southern parts are okay-ish but that's all. However I really try to save south America. Brazil is a pretty good candidate for boost.

[Riftwalker]

i created the african union and it has the largest world population and boosting economy has been making it's GDP jump by 300Bn per month. it has 5 CPs when per capita is still only 3.4k.

the african union was entirely conquered by force, not diplomacy.

edit: also because you keep declaring war your cohesion will end up very high and unrest shouldn't be an issue.

[clarkeveritas]

If you stack a bunch of agents with high stats and have the cash to do the "direct investment", you can turn any area into a decent area. Africa has a high population, so if you can unify it and keep spamming "Advise" you can turn africa into a powerhouse. I had to give up most of my african nations in order to have enough CP to take over the US, but before I did so I turned much of africa, especially South Africa into quite a decent location.

It took quite a few years but it can be done to just about anywhere. I kept Australia, Israel, and chunks of the middle east but getting the US required me to give up a LOT of my other lands. And i'll probably still get crushed because the Servants took over China and are getting into a big war with India. Nukes will fly and things will probably go very badly once Nuclear Winter hits.