Why are all the AI except servants useless? Even detrimental to themselves and everyone else

[jackhickman999]

I can stop the servants from getting anything but eventually, they end up in the power of a superpower from Exodus, etc. Messing with the servants seems to make the aliens turn up really early. Normally show up about 2034 but if the servants are failing they seem to turn up in like 2028. The AI nukes itself for no reason and it doesn't nuke enough when it needs to. It runs its countries into the ground. They don't ally when they need to. I hope this is all getting fixed I don't want another Phoenix point.

[corisai]

a) Servants get free countries from alien agents.

b) Dunno, in my game Resistance slowly taken control over China and feel fine while going small crusades in Africa, India hold by almost decade by Academy - everything else is mine Of course I mean major powers - USA, EU, USSR and Japan.

[ulzgoroth]

I've seen HF blowing up alien and Servant ships, and since they took over the EU they've become a pretty dominant global force.

[jackhickman999]

ulzgoroth eredeti hozzászólása:

I've seen HF blowing up alien and Servant ships, and since they took over the EU they've become a pretty dominant global force.

In all six games, I've played and gotten bored of no AI has done anything. Let alone a single faction taking the fight to the aliens. I've seen them nuke themselves because a single tank hits their cap. Even if they have like 5 tanks sitting there defending. They run spoils everywhere so even if I get more CP the countries I get extra are worthless.

[jackhickman999]

corisai eredeti hozzászólása:

a) Servants get free countries from alien agents.

b) Dunno, in my game Resistance slowly taken control over China and feel fine while going small crusades in Africa, India hold by almost decade by Academy - everything else is mine Of course I mean major powers - USA, EU, USSR and Japan.

Yeah, I noticed something going on because the Servants are more dangerous on Earth because of nukes than the Aliens are.

[ulzgoroth]

jackhickman999 eredeti hozzászólása:

ulzgoroth eredeti hozzászólása:

I've seen HF blowing up alien and Servant ships, and since they took over the EU they've become a pretty dominant global force.

In all six games, I've played and gotten bored of no AI has done anything. Let alone a single faction taking the fight to the aliens. I've seen them nuke themselves because a single tank hits their cap. Even if they have like 5 tanks sitting there defending. They run spoils everywhere so even if I get more CP the countries I get extra are worthless.

Are you sure?

Battles that don't involve you are pretty easy to miss, especially in space. There's nothing but a notice in that largely useless left-side doomscroll.

[Cloudbow Rose]

The servants are not magic, But they're getting a lot of support from their alien friends after they make contact, that and the aliens like to just give them points directly with their own operatives.

[nath]

The AI don't seem to do much, if anything, against xeno-flora or the alien invasion.

I managed to isolate the alien armies in SK as I was at war with them and had naval superiority but HF and the Resistance who controlled Germany and the US did absolutely nothing despite pretty much everything being undefended.

Their AI to control countries is also pretty horrendous with the US having been wrecked by the AI. apart from the beat stick.

On the Servants and the Alien Invasion weirdly it seems like the better you play to deny and sabotage the Servants/Protectorate the later the invasion is as I think it's related to tech advances they do. So if you're not very good at disrupting them then it might be a few years earlier than if you remove them from majors.

[jackhickman999]

ulzgoroth eredeti hozzászólása:

jackhickman999 eredeti hozzászólása:

In all six games, I've played and gotten bored of no AI has done anything. Let alone a single faction taking the fight to the aliens. I've seen them nuke themselves because a single tank hits their cap. Even if they have like 5 tanks sitting there defending. They run spoils everywhere so even if I get more CP the countries I get extra are worthless.

Are you sure?

Battles that don't involve you are pretty easy to miss, especially in space. There's nothing but a notice in that largely useless left-side doomscroll.

They ain't going to be doing anything with a 1 firepower unit. I ain't missing anything in my games. I check their ships regularly. Literally every game the servants and aliens just trolllololo over all the AI. It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because I don't see how I'm supposed to stop it because I do everything I can. I kill or detain aliens and also servants. I surveil and clear assets for them. Next thing I know I've got aliens in like 2027.

[ulzgoroth]

Well, yeah, maybe you should stop pissing off the aliens in 2026? Nobody including the player is expected to suppress them that early.

[jackhickman999]

ulzgoroth eredeti hozzászólása:

Well, yeah, maybe you should stop pissing off the aliens in 2026? Nobody including the player is expected to suppress them that early.

What kind of answer is that though? That's pathetic.

[jackhickman999]

nath eredeti hozzászólása:

The AI don't seem to do much, if anything, against xeno-flora or the alien invasion.

I managed to isolate the alien armies in SK as I was at war with them and had naval superiority but HF and the Resistance who controlled Germany and the US did absolutely nothing despite pretty much everything being undefended.

Their AI to control countries is also pretty horrendous with the US having been wrecked by the AI. apart from the beat stick.

On the Servants and the Alien Invasion weirdly it seems like the better you play to deny and sabotage the Servants/Protectorate the later the invasion is as I think it's related to tech advances they do. So if you're not very good at disrupting them then it might be a few years earlier than if you remove them from majors.

Servants had a few ♥♥♥♥ holes and they came in 27. Next, the servants took control like immediately of China and India off the AI.

Edit: I also had control of the whole European Union, Eurasia Union, the Arab league, and almost the Ivory coast. What more should I have done?

[mahu]

servants are essentially playing on cheat mode - try playing them yourself, it's a joke.

other AIs feel really limp compared to them, and completely irrational at that. in my game
as Academy, Humanity First is at war with me but not against aliens or the Servants. what's more, if you deal with xenofauna/xenoflora in their territory, they consider this as a hostile action and hate you even more - even though you're literally doing what they want, killing aliens

in short, it feels like it's up to the player to deal with everything

[ulzgoroth]

jackhickman999 eredeti hozzászólása:

ulzgoroth eredeti hozzászólása:

Well, yeah, maybe you should stop pissing off the aliens in 2026? Nobody including the player is expected to suppress them that early.

What kind of answer is that though? That's pathetic.

One that actually plays for results rather than getting invaded 7 years early?

[jackhickman999]

ulzgoroth eredeti hozzászólása:

jackhickman999 eredeti hozzászólása:

What kind of answer is that though? That's pathetic.

One that actually plays for results rather than getting invaded 7 years early?

One it's not confirmed anything you are saying it's only assumed info at this point. So maybe give your head a wobble.
If you play for "Results" well lmao. What can I say to that? Do you like being railroaded? Go on a train. That's like Phoenix point gamers in a nutshell. They're happy to play total ♥♥♥♥. Not even Paradox is that retarded. Still got better AI in hoi 4 as well XD.

[ulzgoroth]

jackhickman999 eredeti hozzászólása:

ulzgoroth eredeti hozzászólása:

One that actually plays for results rather than getting invaded 7 years early?

One it's not confirmed anything you are saying it's only assumed info at this point. So maybe give your head a wobble.
If you play for "Results" well lmao. What can I say to that? You like being railroaded? Go on a train. That's like Phoenix point gamers in a nutshell. They're happy to play total ♥♥♥♥. Not even Paradox is that retarded. Still got better AI in hoi 4 as well XD.

Uh.

If what you're saying is that it's unconfirmed that hammering the servants causes alien retaliation, you're just wrong. It does that, and the game tells you so frequently.

And if you think the game is wrong for putting you in a position where berserker aggression is the wrong strategy, well, that is an opinion you can have.