Help 2032 every asset destroyed

[edson_jr]

Hey,
Allien Nation poped in 2032, in Turkey . I managed to increase unrest and it was destroyed. Again, on the end of that year, another one rised, this time in India. Again, unrest, 10, destroyed. All good, right?

Well, not really. I had 100 MC and used only 39 pts of it. That means i was well bellow the baseline perun was talking about. In any case, the alliens sent all the fleets and rape off all but 2 stations, 4 mp ... yet.

Im not sure if they will try to form another earth administration, allien nation, because its so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ anoying, very agressive and take things from air. But if they do, I could repeat the unrest trick, so, ok ... but Im not sure if will they stop attacking my assets in the future or if my playtrho is DOOMED.

It could decay in a year, ok, but if they keep trying to start their nation in 2033 over and over, it wont never decay, actually.

I have alot of resouces to rebuild and im far ahead in the research, including diamanoids, railguns, fusion drives and so ... i was just waiting this event to start to build one serious fleet, but now i may need your help to understand what i did wrong, or if would i keep it going.

thanks o>

[corisai]

Originally posted by edson_jr:

Well, not really. I had 100 MC and used only 39 pts of it. That means i was well bellow the baseline perun was talking about.

1) You (or this Perun) don't understand baseline. Baseline mean - once you passed it & game passed enough time (depend on game difficulty) then you're in permanent war with aliens regardless of anything will happen next (until they take down all your MC in use at least).

2) Your actions against aliens AND Servants (much less - against Protectorate) are making aliens hate you.

3) Aliens are scripted to attack Earth too (date depend on difficulty). You can't make them forget about their goals

4) Once you have enough tech - aliens will go for you in any case as they will see you as a threat.

[edson_jr]

you didnt help much, but thanks for your time.
anyone else? any help?

[corisai]

Originally posted by edson_jr:

you didnt help much, but thanks for your time.
anyone else? any help?

You don't share details - what kind of help you need and what's your exact situation.

Did aliens landed their armies? Did servants create alien administration? (they could do it too after some time & completing their story projects)

And as I'd already said - aliens are more and more agressive with passage of time. Keeping low profile only reducing damage to you & buying more time for you.

For normal difficulty as guideline - around 2042 total war is almost unevitable (better to be prepared around ~2035-2040).

[saliddry]

yeah stay low .... in my game playing humantiy first i completly own EU + Russia + currently working on south america from brazil its 2030 or early 2031....i tryed usa bevor brazil wanted to secure the nukes but they reinforced points on spot every time most of the time even before the def weared off and got undefendet

right now usa is split between resistance and exodus hope that will not be a big problem

the good thing i made an yearly save from 2025 on ... so i can go back if i missed a vital tech

till now aliens didnt attack even once ..atleast they didnt attack me highest threat level i got was 3 stars .....managed to hold servants small they have a few countrys in africa but nothing important..killed atleast 6 of there agents till now .....i would say it was 8

currently researching there language will finish late 2032 hope im not to late on that

on global tech i forced big nations to be finnaly done .... anyone here knowing if i can unite eu and russia with that?.....i hope atleast it will enable brazil to unite south america

[edson_jr]

@ Corisai,

Again, thanks for your time.
I tried to give you alot of details.
Year 2033 now.
They founded the 3rd Allien Nation, Administration, on China this time.
First, in Turkey, 2032.
Second, in India, 2033.
Now, China, 2033.
Yes, they landed one army of tech 7, twice.
I destroyed them by unrest, 10.
Twice. Now, did again in china, Got the first revolution. They just got a small part and i will take it asap.
Yes, all the time theyre using the servant countries to start a allien nation.
Yes, i dont have more stations atm. They destroyed every one. Mars, Mercury, Venus, Moon, Earth, roids, etc.

I have full spectrum controll on earth. High level councilors with cibernetics and best orgs available. 3 of them can outperform on rising unrest. I controll big eurasia, big north america, a federation of arab countries. I have the tech now to take some fight to them, fission drivers, good lasers and diamandoids armor. I have 10k+ of each ressouce, beside the fact my stations is gone.

Game dificulty normal.

No ships on space, i let them destroy them.

MC 123, used 0.

Help I need? to know if my game is doomed.

[edson_jr]

@ salli,

Wel, thanks bro. How afortunate you are.
On my pt, alliens got only ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Turkey, India and now China.
With nukes.
I cant contain them as theyre spaming claims on the entire earth.
Allien china started a war of conquest against India, that i just recently liberated on the second wave of allien administration. So i had to take china again. If this cicle wont stop, im doomed, and i may need to scrap 120 hours of play and start over.

[Aramada]

Late game hate I think is difficult to handle because I frankly don't think its balanced well yet. Some players have success, but there is a hidden scaling underneath the hood which causes some random outlying seemingly innocent actions to give you insurmountable amounts of threat. I have a feeling that this is not intended and there are so many traps which will just about kill off most playthroughs in the 2030s.

I think you need a few things to get past the 2030s:
- Layered Defense Arrays (with decent progress in military techs, these scale with what you have unlocked)
- Way to prevent CP flipping (its a tech tied to the story & arrival line of techs)
- Decently high Militech Armies (to counter landings)
- Enough nukes to hold off bad alien landing placement (IE. you cannot declare war)

If you can defend a few choice positions in the inner solar system to keep your space economy going in the mid 2030s you might be able to break into the 2040s where you can actually start to develop fleets that can win limited engagements.

[Mistfox]

Restart small, try for mercury and try rebuilding using tech that only uses metals, this lets you get a small fleet out fast. Don't bother with those huge titans or battleships, build lots of small, cheap missile tossing escorts (escorts because they got 2 slots for missile weapons). I tend to call my first ship class of this type "Monkey-class" because you are literally the monkey flinging poo at the alien invaders. Many won't survive but if you are lucky, neither will the alien.

[Aramada]

Originally posted by edson_jr:

@ salli,

Wel, thanks bro. How afortunate you are.
On my pt, alliens got only ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Turkey, India and now China.
With nukes.
I cant contain them as theyre spaming claims on the entire earth.
Allien china started a war of conquest against India, that i just recently liberated on the second wave of allien administration. So i had to take china again. If this cicle wont stop, im doomed, and i may need to scrap 120 hours of play and start over.

If you take a superpower back from any alien aligned faction you get so much threat that it will never decay. This is the scaling I talked about in my last post. You can open your save file in Documents\My Games\TerraInvicta by extracting it with 7zip/winzip/RAR and then open it in notepad. Look for "assessedAlienHateOfMe" and see what that number is. 10 is one pip, 20 is 2, all the way up to 5 is anything above 50 and that is when they are set to all out war. This decays... SLOWLY when you take no actions that cause hate against the aliens/servants/protectorate(to a less degree).

Check it in your save file and if that sucker is above like 200 i'd just restart tbh. I had one instance where taking a CP in china back from the servants boosted me from 10 hate to 244...

[edson_jr]

Mist, thanks for your advice.
I tried small ships, be sure.
No way to facew 12 ship fleets with lots of lasers and PDs.
Missiles wont reach them.
Also, advance missiles equals better armour and i can do toe on toe with lots of armour and PDs, also ultraviolet lasers and coilguns. but. ofc, i have zero ships and zero stations now, and they keep coming to earth.

TBH? your advice is very good to fullfill one of the first missions, because you can take only one allien ship fleet on surveilance mission on low orbit, so a bunch of small monitors can do the job (as far as one survives).

Thanks anyway, but i think i passed this stage ... im facing motherships, dreads, bs and more.

[edson_jr]

@ aramada,

thanks bro. makes sense. moskorovka on the way.
but im in 2033 now.
2033.
not 2040.
totally unfair.
i have some pictures (i wish i know how to post it).
anyway, check my profile, 120 plus hours in one mission as HF.
Normal dificulty.

[Batailleuse]

Originally posted by Aramada:

Late game hate I think is difficult to handle because I frankly don't think its balanced well yet. Some players have success, but there is a hidden scaling underneath the hood which causes some random outlying seemingly innocent actions to give you insurmountable amounts of threat. I have a feeling that this is not intended and there are so many traps which will just about kill off most playthroughs in the 2030s.

I think you need a few things to get past the 2030s:
- Layered Defense Arrays (with decent progress in military techs, these scale with what you have unlocked)
- Way to prevent CP flipping (its a tech tied to the story & arrival line of techs)
- Decently high Militech Armies (to counter landings)
- Enough nukes to hold off bad alien landing placement (IE. you cannot declare war)

If you can defend a few choice positions in the inner solar system to keep your space economy going in the mid 2030s you might be able to break into the 2040s where you can actually start to develop fleets that can win limited engagements.

lot of people had success differently.

various ways are:

making sure you field about 10 ish monitor or better with all the best tech (Missiles tech) you have by 2030-2033 and you can hold aliens for ... a while. you may even manage to kill the mothership

you can rush Earth to Orbit defense tech (Networked Global Defense). which enable shoot anything in orbit, including alien ships. so after that they can't really land.

If you only focus on tech/science and almost nothing else, it's possible as you will be leading 2 out of 3 global tech everytime. and it's really just 8 tech to beeline to get it.

some nations (USA/Europe-russia/ and to a lesser extent china-india) can all (mostly) full spec into military power and destroy aliens when they arrive, you should be about 5.5 to 6+ when alien arrive if you go all banana on military (with 10ish military labs and 10 Material labs)

If you get to green laser tech, and make ships with that, you can also orbital bomb alien landing party from orbit with 0 danger to you or your troops, if you do that, prepare some more ships to also defend against alien.

[Lovecraft]

I managed to destroy the mothership without even trying. It attacked my 5 monitors (15 total viper missile launchers) and everyone died.

Now I'm afraid of the retaliation...

[Zarquon]

"Aliens lose hatred by destroying your space and ground assets
If the target is not "high value" (not a hab, army, or fleet), -1 hatred in all cases
If the Alien nation has formed:
If you have no habs left after combat (they destroyed your last one), -50 hatred
If you have no habs left outside the orbit of Mars, -25 hatred
Otherwise if the aliens haven't declared total war on you, -8 hatred
Otherwise, if the aliens haven't declared total war, -5 hatred"

from https://old.reddit.com/r/TerraInvicta/comments/xybrp4/alien_and_faction_hatred_mechanics_explained/

You will survive, just try not to attack them so much and let them destroy all your habs, then work on slowly rebuilding. I was stuck like that for almost 10 years

[Batailleuse]

Originally posted by Zarquon:

"Aliens lose hatred by destroying your space and ground assets
If the target is not "high value" (not a hab, army, or fleet), -1 hatred in all cases
If the Alien nation has formed:
If you have no habs left after combat (they destroyed your last one), -50 hatred
If you have no habs left outside the orbit of Mars, -25 hatred
Otherwise if the aliens haven't declared total war on you, -8 hatred
Otherwise, if the aliens haven't declared total war, -5 hatred"

from https://old.reddit.com/r/TerraInvicta/comments/xybrp4/alien_and_faction_hatred_mechanics_explained/

You will survive, just try not to attack them so much and let them destroy all your habs, then work on slowly rebuilding. I was stuck like that for almost 10 years

interesting