Layered Defense Array Thread

[The Milkman]

By browsing through the forum I've seen that many people are running into issues with effective use of layered defense arrays - namely that they won't even open fire, possibly due to lack of excess power?

Is there some kind of consensus about that module's mechanical properties? It's a damn shame that none of this is explained at all ingame.

[fluxtorrent]

no, the game "upgrades" automatically as you unlock weapons

[Zarquon]

Originally posted by KFC-AI:

Originally posted by The Milkman:

Alright so I ended up having a chat on Discord. Basically it's a combination of two things;

One: UV Lasers are ineffective at range - dealing no damage beyond 500km (x305% effective armor value off the tooltip)

Two: UV Lasers are also incapable of firing through atmospheres, explaining away a lot of the Mars shenanigans that were happening.

Hope this helps!

Wait, you can change the weapon layout of LDs ?!

You can't and that's the issue. I researched railguns to start working up that tree and then all my layered defence started using them and never managing to hit anything. it was only years later till i got phasers that they used those and can actually defend

[Hatti]

I usually power on my LDAs as soon as they enter orbit. Currently on green lasers, no arc lasers researched

At some bases, the LDAs shot down everything so far - 100%..
Just 5 minute before writing this here, i´ve lost a ceres base wiith 6 LDA to ONE 168 strenght ship without my LDAs even try to shot back..

More enough power available.. they are just not working sometimes

[The Milkman]

Originally posted by Zarquon:

Originally posted by KFC-AI:

Wait, you can change the weapon layout of LDs ?!

You can't and that's the issue.

Bingo. Enjoy having UV ground laser cannons on Mars my friends.

[KFC-AI]

Originally posted by Zarquon:

Originally posted by KFC-AI:

Wait, you can change the weapon layout of LDs ?!

You can't and that's the issue. I researched railguns to start working up that tree and then all my layered defence started using them and never managing to hit anything. it was only years later till i got phasers that they used those and can actually defend

That is my problem too !

[KFC-AI]

Originally posted by The Milkman:

Originally posted by Zarquon:

You can't and that's the issue.

Bingo. Enjoy having UV ground laser cannons on Mars my friends.

This is the fun thing, my ground bases have Green Laser while my orbitals have Railgun MKII. The aliens are killing my orbitals now by simply outranging them with lasers.

[Riftwalker]

hmm, they've worked great for me, but mine all use railguns currently, wonder if that's why.

[KFC-AI]

Originally posted by Riftwalker:

hmm, they've worked great for me, but mine all use railguns currently, wonder if that's why.

Wondered about the same thing, and bad for me since aliens are now using long range lasers to outgun me.

[corisai]

Originally posted by The Milkman:

Bingo. Enjoy having UV ground laser cannons on Mars my friends.

Mars atmosphere is absolutely transparent for UV lasers. That's indeed a bug.

[💖Medibot💖]

They work fine for me, but they don't shoot if the enemy's trajectory doesn't come into the weapon's range.
The fact that you can't change the loadout by yourself sucks real bad since railguns suck when compared to lasers, as they miss more than 90% of their shots with how much the alien ships like to dance

[Fwiffo]

Originally posted by The Milkman:

Bingo. Enjoy having UV ground laser cannons on Mars my friends.

My ground LDAs on Mars with UV lasers are currently happily shooting down alien bombarding ships. Even had t1 defense modules did it just recently.

[Left-Hand Path]

Originally posted by The Milkman:

Does anyone else have experience with this particular issue?

Thanks for the headsup. If I run into that issue I ll try to provide details here.

[Radam]

The module at my tech surface layer defence module says it makes 31 .. someting per month. Is that what it is? It takes time to boost station defences?

And the number shown in the overview only tells peak defences? And maybe this counter resets every time you upgrade?