Federation/Unification troubles for 2 countries

[VDmitry]

At this point I created 3-4 federations and united many of them. But I don't understand why for some of them I have troubles.

The problematic is Turkestan Federation (created on base of Turkey after research proper tech). It already unified Armenia and 2 more territories.

However Khazastan joined Federation but having no option to be unified. Previously it was able to join Russian Federation but I quit from that option. 1 of 2 territories of Khazastan have Turkestan claim. There is no option to give up that territory to Turkestan either. I can give up it to Russia though.

The other country is Tajikistan, which cannot even join the federation. It has Turkestan claim.

Any ideas?

[Toblm]

Federation members usually seem to need to be allied to the Fed leader and not rivaled to any other federation member.

At game start there are some ill feelings between some of the 'Stans' is that still in effect?

Otherwise you likely know the standard diplo timer, exec timer stuff.

[corisai]

Цитата допису VDmitry:

However Khazastan joined Federation but having no option to be unified.

Open Turkestan Federation window, move to relationship tab and hover mouse over Khazastan flag - you will see what requirement in red & failing for unification.

It's working for every country even non eglible for unification at all.

[VDmitry]

Wow, that helps.

For Tajikistan the alliance with someone was missing. That should solve the problem.

For Khazastan the problem is that capital region has no Turkestan claim. So I would prefer then to give up Almaty region to Turkestan (it has the right claim), but such option does not exist. Why?

[corisai]

Цитата допису VDmitry:

For Khazastan the problem is that capital region has no Turkestan claim. So I would prefer then to give up Almaty region to Turkestan (it has the right claim), but such option does not exist. Why?

Because they never ever been superpowers - so their only option is a war for disputed province as nobody of them will submit to long-term rival.

Currently you're limited to existing (or existed earlier) superpowers + some common fantasy concepts and unable to turn any third-world country into superpower. Devs decision :)

[VDmitry]

I'm not getting. There is a number of techs which give claims to many countries. For example I researched Northern Federation and united Norway, Finland etc. Then researched Slavic Federation and united Poland, Chezh etc. Then I research Turkestan federation and united 3-4 smaller countries with it. One more left not-united.

[Capnbludd]

I really don't understand how the federation stuff works at all. Can the USA, Canada, Mexico, and the central American countries become one?

[Commander Hitman2b]

Цитата допису Capnbludd:

I really don't understand how the federation stuff works at all. Can the USA, Canada, Mexico, and the central American countries become one?

USA and canada yes i don't know about mexico

[Toblm]

Цитата допису Capnbludd:

I really don't understand how the federation stuff works at all. Can the USA, Canada, Mexico, and the central American countries become one?

Late late late game tech.

[corisai]

Цитата допису Capnbludd:

I really don't understand how the federation stuff works at all.

There are finite amount of projects that provide claims for chosen (by devs) countries. Aside from them - you aren't able to do anything.

Цитата допису Capnbludd:

Can the USA, Canada, Mexico, and the central American countries become one?

Yes, very expensive project after unification of USA & Canada. Not worth doing it also.

[Commander Hitman2b]

Цитата допису corisai:

Цитата допису Capnbludd:

I really don't understand how the federation stuff works at all.

There are finite amount of projects that provide claims for chosen (by devs) countries. Aside from them - you aren't able to do anything.

Цитата допису Capnbludd:

Can the USA, Canada, Mexico, and the central American countries become one?

Yes, very expensive project after unification of USA & Canada. Not worth doing it also.

i would say it's worth it for the 2 extra unite especially since use can hit tier 6
Same as the EU if you can build all the armies and hit tier 5

[corisai]

Цитата допису Commander Hitman2b:

i would say it's worth it for the 2 extra unite especially since use can hit tier 6

2 extra units at cost of how many military techs? AI doesn't seems to grow it as efficient as I'm could.

Tech&project for super-USA are too expensive - you can't really rush for them and soon will get alien invasion. That's why IMHO it doesn't worth it.

And for late game, once you're keeping Earth orbit free from aliens - you're no longer need those extra armies :)

Цитата допису Commander Hitman2b:

Same as the EU if you can build all the armies and hit tier 5

Nah, EU is free (and extened EU still much cheaper then super-USA).

[Commander Hitman2b]

Цитата допису corisai:

Цитата допису Commander Hitman2b:

i would say it's worth it for the 2 extra unite especially since use can hit tier 6

2 extra units at cost of how many military techs? AI doesn't seems to grow it as efficient as I'm could.

Tech&project for super-USA are too expensive - you can't really rush for them and soon will get alien invasion. That's why IMHO it doesn't worth it.

And for late game, once you're keeping Earth orbit free from aliens - you're no longer need those extra armies :)

Цитата допису Commander Hitman2b:

Same as the EU if you can build all the armies and hit tier 5

Nah, EU is free (and extened EU still much cheaper then super-USA).

i'll do both also sure if you manage to keep earth safe but then again you need to be there so those extra army are still usefull and once you have but i learned a valuable lesson after that second failed game
BUILD lots of station and space colonies but also do the small research first not the big one

[Capnbludd]

Thanks for the answers folks.