Defending/helping people from bandits is murder???

[Kleementin]

What the hell!
This doesnt make sense.
Why is it always murder if I try to help a fellow dealing with bandits and even do not shoot first?
This completely lost.
I just get arrested for helping other people and lose money.

[Hammer Of Evil]

yes

therefore just shoot 'n loot everyone. grand success.

[𝔰𝔦𝔤𝔦𝔫𝔞 ✝]

That's how america works

[jswarpaint]

Many, Many, Many things like this are present throughout the rd2 experience ya are delivering trader stuff for money and shooting the bad guys missions overwith ya get paid etc... but wait there's more .. one of the bad guys ya shot is dead .. up shows a npc and is a witness now and investigating then they go for the cops .. so ya have to shoot them but then wait theres more as you shoot this npc another one popls out of nowhere so ya have to engage them .. then I did a quick travel thing and got out of there ..

[Kleementin]

Now I got invited by someone to a contest of shooting bottles on a field.
This lead in somebody else seeing this and reporting me of harrassment.
Funniest thing ever: The guy who started the contest with me, attacked me because of that.
This is some complete nonsense and I cannot understand why this has never been fixed. :D

[Kleementin]

Tbh it's a shame that too many situations lead into getting a bounty.
If I didn't have the bank mod where I can story my money I would go nuts in this game losing all my money everytime just for trying to play the game peacefully. :D

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Story or Online ?

[毛茸茸]

yeah once I tried to help a dying man and I carried him to the clinic.BUT those residents nearby considered me as the murderer
Then I 've got arrested and had to pay

[Kleementin]

I play story.
The more I play it the more I ask myself if the developers played their own game even once before selling it. ^^

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Part of the game is getting into trouble. Don't worry about it. I played the first time and had lowest possible honor by end of Chapter 4; by the end of the game I had it to the max. It's easy to recover from it. You can easily get $30K money in this story if you find and sell the Gold Bars and such

[Omerr]

Red Dead 2 Story or Red dead online?

[Kleementin]

Already said story.
It's not about losing or winning honor.
It's just that the game does things that are not logical and break the game experience.
Pretty bad in a game that aims to give a lot of realism feels.
And I would really like to do stuff without having to fear being arrested all the time for doing nothing wrong. ^^
Breaks my gameplay and that pisses me off.

[Kleementin]

I just got a bounty because the bank officially closed while I was inside doing a transfer. :D
This is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. I do spend more time being on the run for nothing than playing the game.

[WondrinOstrich]

I play only storymode, don't know if there is a diff to online, but: on such approach, I try to "intervene" first (button B here on PC with my xbone-controller) and I believe one does not even have to lock/select a target first, the intervene-prompt pops up, when you are near enough - not sure about that though, maybe some other Arthurians can confirm?

Take it like when you in real world would enter a dangerous situation, get your bearings first and not just shoot everyone in sight, for you might shoot the victim(s) too. so its a second or two to intervene, it makes it plausible. Press the intervene button.

This lets your opponent(s) first draw their attention (and possibly guns) away from the victim and they will then go after you (give yourself a healthbooster, if need be, for the next blows will hit you first, but the victim is more likely to survive.

It is not "kill anyone from now on, licenced & bountyfree" for we are not the Law,
but if I level the opps level (like no Schofield versus fists, if they try to grab me) and
first hold my stance and position firm, almost stoical with my superhealtboosters,
dead-eye-knowledge and aim-assist© I lean back calmly and take all the marauders
pain and fear and transform it to something bigger, an arthurely transcendence -
sorry for driftin'... it's those blossoms I'm sure!

But when I then let them approach me, I often had such accounters middle of the day in say Valentine, folk mumbled around ("what the heck.." "was it?" "hell...") but no kill order on the help.

It does not work all the time, for I shall not forget whom I play here (a known criminal in storymode, who in the eyes of the people is always guilty) and that handling such tasks programming-wide is a nightmare, but that's another story and no excuse of course.

Anyway, I guess, this game wants to be played with a certain calmness and overview, too.
Hope, this was not too much blaablaa, maybe it helps some.
no pun intended ;-)

[...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...]

Originally posted by Kleementin:

What the hell!
This doesnt make sense.
Why is it always murder if I try to help a fellow dealing with bandits and even do not shoot first?
This completely lost.
I just get arrested for helping other people and lose money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra0-SDmtX4k

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by Kleementin:

I just got a bounty because the bank officially closed while I was inside doing a transfer. :D
This is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. I do spend more time being on the run for nothing than playing the game.

When you use Mods you need to either use other mods that address such issues; or keep the in-game time in mind. There is a mod (I forget the name) that allows you to enable some RDO rules that are used; such as Stores/Shops/Banks never close. They might glitch to where the shop turns its lights out during what would be "closed hours" but aside from that they can stay open. In RDO they are always open.

I'm pretty sure you can even over-ride the shop hours using Rampage Trainer. Or with that, I know you can at the very least, stop time clock or slow down time.

Often when playing RDR2 Story w/ Mods I used Rampage Trainer to set the game world timer to around 6000 seonds (the default is 2000 IIRC); so that's slowing the game world down to 1/3 the speed of the default. Making days much much longer.

Only issues with changing game time is once you trigger some quest or mission events in the game, the game world time will auto switch back to the internal game engine default. It's annoying but not a huge deal.