Tired of games with sad endings.

[zenstrata]

A sad ending does not make a game good. If anything, imo, it makes the game worse. Life is crappy enough, I don't need to play games that make me feel sad too.

Because I know what Rockstar will do with the ending of this game, I don't even want to play it enough to buy it when it's at 50% off. Maybe when the whole game costs 5 or 10$ with all the dlc included, i'll consider it. But until then, take your sad endings and get off my lawn.

(Edited update to original post)
Obviously some people are unhappy about these sorts of endings, and some people are happy with them.

The best way to make both sides happy? Try taking advantage of the best thing about games. - GIVE THE PLAYERS CHOICES!
Let the player write their own ending through the choices they can make in the storyline. Make the story have multiple paths that can lead to either a good/bad/or in-between ending.
The best games give players the option to make their story fit their own choices in the game.

[Scott Memelord]

Game actually has a pretty happy ending all things considered. If you DON'T take the first game into account. lol.
Otherwise the game ends on a fairly happy note, though with a hint that John ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. But we don't get to see the results of that at all in RDR2.

Though, I do agree with the criticism. Alot of things feel forced. Especially how the Pinkertons just kinda magically know it was somehow John that killed Micah, even though there's basically no way at all they could have known that unless they were following him the entire time. (Which if they were they would've just tried to arrest him immediately afterwards.) Not like forensics existed in the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ early 1900s. (Unless Sadie told them lmao, who ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ knows?) Is John, Killer Bean? Does every one of his bullets have "John Marston" engraved into them? lol
Javier's character completely changing in like 5 minutes, ect.

Stuff like that where it's obvious it was only done because the 1st game's events had to be taken into account. The problems with creating a prequel to an already established story. lol

[ant_sh]

Your life will have a sad ending but that's not the reason to not live it
https://youtu.be/5U1-OmAICpU

[shiv]

Sad endings are how you know it's a western

[Gunter Severloh]

So dont play the story, go explore, mod the game and create your own adventures how i play.

[Sininside]

Geez, next you're going to tell me you are tired of Disney Movies!?

[NlKO]

good

[Alejandro]

In a way it's a good ending because when Arthur dies he watches the sunrise but when the story of John is over in this game he watches also the sunrise as well, meaning Arthur wanted him to have a normal life with his family and it happened. (at least if we forget about RDR1).

[Kidd Nelson]

Swiggity Swag What's In The Bag? a écrit :

Game actually has a pretty happy ending all things considered. If you DON'T take the first game into account. lol.
Otherwise the game ends on a fairly happy note, though with a hint that John ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. But we don't get to see the results of that at all in RDR2.

Though, I do agree with the criticism. Alot of things feel forced. Especially how the Pinkertons just kinda magically know it was somehow John that killed Micah, even though there's basically no way at all they could have known that unless they were following him the entire time. (Which if they were they would've just tried to arrest him immediately afterwards.) Not like forensics existed in the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ early 1900s. (Unless Sadie told them lmao, who ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ knows?) Is John, Killer Bean? Does every one of his bullets have "John Marston" engraved into them? lol
Javier's character completely changing in like 5 minutes, ect.

Stuff like that where it's obvious it was only done because the 1st game's events had to be taken into account. The problems with creating a prequel to an already established story. lol

Pinkerton's at first didn't know it was John. They knew only someone from the Van der Linde gang would have high intentions to killing Micah. obviously when they started asking and looking for clues John's name kept coming up.

Javier kept changing because Dutch started to loose it. Dutch was a big role model to Jaiver.

[zenstrata]

shiv a écrit :

Sad endings are how you know it's a western

I was always more of a Clint Eastwood or John Wayne western kinda guy. Good examples of movies from that time period are: A Fist Full of dollars, For a Few Dollars More, The Good The Bad and The Ugly, Paint Your Wagon, The Outlaw Josey Wales, etc.

Most of those have happy endings, the cowboy gets the girl, kills the bad guy, gets the gold, and rides off into the sunset. That's a classic western imo.

Sininside a écrit :

Geez, next you're going to tell me you are tired of Disney Movies!?

And disney movies can go jump off a bridge. After what they did to Star Wars, I have zero respect for Disney. We used to joke about Jarjar Binks ruining the star wars movies... we had no idea how bad it could get. The Last Jedi killed the star wars franchise imo. It's dead and buried. I will never forgive Disney for that. And i'll never pay disney to watch another star wars product again.

[AdmiralPiett]

If you want your games to have only happy endings, stick to Super Mario Bros so Mario and Princess Peach can live happily ever after every time.

But this game is meant to end the way it ends. It tells a story. A damn good story. It keeps you engaged, has plot twists, makes you laugh, cheer, cry, scowl, everything. Set in a time period where people like the Van Der Linde Gang were losing their tenuous grip on a way of life that was no longer viable.

There's a reason this thing won so many awards. Hell, if you want more proof, look at film. Schindler's List is an incredibly sad and depressing story, but it's beautifully done and won tons of awards. Same goes for Les Mis, Marley and Me, Life is Beautiful, Titanic, Fault in Our Stars, The Empire Strikes Back, etc etc etc

Media being sad doesn't make it "bad". Sometimes, the truly great writers and directors and actors and producers and everybody else are the ones who have the freaking guts to NOT have everyone end up happily ever after. That can be cheesy and more "forced" than anything else, honestly. It's unrealistic and dumb.

This game is filled with fun but also some good dramatic realism, and damnit, we love it for that.

[zenstrata]

AdmiralPiett a écrit :

This game is filled with fun but also some good dramatic realism, and damnit, we love it for that.

I don't. And I thought titanic was stupid.

[AdmiralPiett]

zenstrata a écrit :

AdmiralPiett a écrit :

This game is filled with fun but also some good dramatic realism, and damnit, we love it for that.

I don't. And I thought titanic was stupid.

What about the Empire Strikes Back? Your earlier posts indicate you to be an original trilogy fan....

[stanrm]

suum cuique, "to each his own"

[Jimmi Stixx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM5-xFenaZI

Paint Your Wagon. Here comes Lee Marvin!

zenstrata a écrit :

I was always more of a Clint Eastwood or John Wayne western kinda guy. Good examples of movies from that time period are: A Fist Full of dollars, For a Few Dollars More, The Good The Bad and The Ugly, Paint Your Wagon, The Outlaw Josey Wales, etc.?

You mention John Wayne but no movies. Red River was good. Ending kinda sucked though because they didn't like sad endings. The Searchers was a movie that's hard to watch.

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance has him in it but that's more of an ensemble cast. True Grit is alright. "Fill your hands you son of a...". Classic interupted cowboy cursing!(see:Yosemite Sam) Rio Bravo! I think he makes a better bad guy.

I have not seen The Wild Bunch. I will when I get a chance as it's basically RDR. So I'm intrigued.

[Just Vivian!]

Why come in here and rant about why you don't like sad video games, just don't play the game jesus christ.

Also, a story where nothing bad ever happens is so incredibly depressing and bland and boring. Sadness and other emotions only enrich the story, you just sound like you wanna whine with your "WELL NOT ME!-" kind of attitude