Why is Abigail Roberts so unreasonable in Epilogue?

[Dave Norton Epic Grave Prank]

It pisses me off to no extent how she simply expects Jim Milton to simply lay over dead or bad men. Especially during the mail mission where it seemed that she was at fault.

It's not even that she's ALWAYS this way! I've never seen her this unreasonable before! I mean for god sake's you're an ex-prostitute, you should know that bad men exist! But her entitled ass couldn't let go of her own head and whenever I try to defend people (which is objectivily a good quality.) SHE GETS PISSED! EVEN WHEN IT'S HER OWN ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ FAULT THAT JIM HAS TO RESORT TO VIOLENCE! It's the mail mission that is important because she takes NO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ responsibility nor does she want to understand Jim's side.

THE ♥♥♥♥ YOU EXPECT ME TO DO ♥♥♥♥♥? LIE OVER DEAD AND MAKE LANCELOT AN ORPHAN!? Rockstar are good writers but are ♥♥♥♥ at family drama, John should have called out Abigail for this double standard but NOOOOOOOoo! She's in the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ right! SHE ISN'T IN THE RIGHT! SHE MADE JIM MILTON AND HER OWN NAME PUBLIC FOR THE MAIL OFFICE! WHO ELSE WOULD HAVE KNOWN THEIR NAMES? Even I'm using Jim Milton's fake name consistently and it ain't even that hard! It was HER fault to begin with that Lancelot was in danger, end of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ story.

Atleast she goes back to being pre-epilogue Abigail once the house is built. I mean I wish she was called out for being a hypocrite but atleast she shuts up about it.
I wouldn't be as half mad if these were reckless killings, either. I get why she would be mad if I killed a drunken man who wanted to throw hands or beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of a man who was just minding his own business. But that doesn't happen, she's consistently angry at Jim for defending himself and the people he cares about. She's always ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on Jim Milton and doesn't give him an OUNCE of credit for atleast TRYING to do right, and she's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hypcrite.

You may wonder why I say she's a hypocrite, it's because she uses fake names, runs away from dangerous areas with lawmen, and wants a normal life half-in-half because she wants to "protect" the family. But when Jim Milton defends Lancelot and himself and his work place and his property... SHE GETS PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE OR ACTIVILY UPSET! She doesn't even have an answer and all I can presume is she wants me dead and Lancelot an orphan so she can sleep with the doctor in Strawberry.

It reminds me alot of entitled brats who never had the pleasure of knowing what goes down in "the hood". Or don't know ♥♥♥♥ about ♥♥♥♥ that goes down in war areas. Or don't understand why further restricting gun laws for the normal citizen is incredibly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded.
Abigail you've shot one man who was about to put a bullet in Arthur's head. And then you proceed to act like it's nothing like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pyschopath. You are not better than anyone else and the fact that you know how to defend yourself yet hate it when Jim does it is hypocritical and what I say is what bad people want. You're a bad person! QUIT ACTING LIKE YOU AIN'T!



I've also seen on Reddit that people find Lancelot annoying. I don't get it because I see why Lancelot is often emotional, he never had to shot a gun nor witness someone die and he never blames Jim Milton for defending himself. It mostly comes down to parenting. Am I saying you should put your son through intense ♥♥♥♥ like killing a man in self defense? Hell no, no sane person is able to get over murdering another person, if you kill a man and you simply pass it off like it was an ant you crushed than there is something wrong with you. BUUUUT he should be taught things like self defense, staying calm, other ♥♥♥♥...


That's my rant on why Abigail sucks and Lancelot is an awesome kid with parents that suck at being parents mostly and why Jim Milton is atleast consistently a fool.

[Nightmar乇]

What a man can do if his job, son, and his own wife being attacked by deranged killers all the time? Abigail sure wants her son to be kept safe and all, but her approach in parenting is somewhat wrong. The ones Abigail and Jack can trust is only John only tbh.

This is somewhat telling me that if I got a wife like that, damn better be like Arthur instead ( not dead, but single )

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Abigail might not be the greatest Mom, but she has a right to be the way she is with John. He's constantly been a let-down. Many of John's sticky situations were solved by Arthur and Sadie. So anytime John tries to act like "Hey I got this hun" well it's hard to trust someone fully who's had John's sort of reputation. If you do ever have a real life lady like that, what you have to do is really button-down and secure your own stuff, get it in gear, then swoop her off her feet and surprise her with positive reassurances that are real.

[FafnirChaos]

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Abigail might not be the greatest Mom, but she has a right to be the way she is with John. He's constantly been a let-down. Many of John's sticky situations were solved by Arthur and Sadie. So anytime John tries to act like "Hey I got this hun" well it's hard to trust someone fully who's had John's sort of reputation. If you do ever have a real life lady like that, what you have to do is really button-down and secure your own stuff, get it in gear, then swoop her off her feet and surprise her with positive reassurances that are real.

They ruined john with this game - In RDR he is a reasonable person who just got himself involved with dutch and his gang(which at the time was only 4 members) and when they left him for dead after a robbery(assumed bank) he walked away from them - instead of running up crying to dutch afterwards - that scene just pissed me off so much. Serious if you play the first one after playing this - whenever he talks about them leaving him behind - it just feels like he was a whiny kid who never got his way. You either confront the person then move on / or you stop talking to them - then you can say I picked myself up and walked away. Aaahhh I hate this game so much.

In this game they made him out a fool.

The scars on his face(which was thought happened during the bank robbery) was actually his inability to deal with wolves because he sucks overall -despite the fact he's a master hunter in rdr.

They made hose a way better character than john in this game despite the fact he was 2nd worse to dutch in rdr.

Dutch character doesn't really fit his later role - and the only reason they did that was so they could connect it to rdr dutch.

Landscape makes no sense - how is boats supposed to get down and up a water fall? It's the access to the area without going through the moutains - while in rdr black water being the last area had a wide open river that was assumed to be a landing area for people coming in.

If we had what it was preceived to be in rdr - instead of arthur and the rest of the forgetables - and just gave arthur his own game without john - it would have been a better sequel.

[FafnirChaos]

Like seriously the john from this game would NEVER walk outside that barn against those agents - and would've ran out the back door to save his own skin.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Cause the John you see 90% of RDR2 is simply a dirt bag coward piece of crap. That IS how he IS. You didn't see that in RDR1 because he changed a bit. The changes happen mostly in the epilogue.

[FafnirChaos]

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Cause the John you see 90% of RDR2 is simply a dirt bag coward piece of crap. That IS how he IS. You didn't see that in RDR1 because he changed a bit. The changes happen mostly in the epilogue.

Maybe he hit his head way too hard that he had a personality shift - Either way I don't see this as cannon - they screwed up way too bad with this story in order to give arthur his light - Arthur as I said should have had his own game and they could have left john alone instead of ruining everything.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

I do agree in a way. I wish the game did not start in that storm, but allowed us to see and play more from before they fled North-East. The credits should have rolled after Arthur's death. Cause although I pushed through the epilogue and all that, I really just did not want to play anymore after Arthur's death. I rather start over and take the game slower and enjoy what the game is before you lock it all down in late Chapter 4.