Red Dead Redemption 2 is the most difficult start-up game in steam.

[Janin]

Red Dead Redemption 2 is the most difficult start-up game in steam.

[Jaunitta 🌸]

Naw. KCD is pretty hard with run quest. But you just gotta figure out the right sequences and where you should be its not instant how to know where your supposed to be or how they game plays. Keep trying. Story mode or online?

[Comestibles]

no, gothic 2 is

[Eminem]

It's fun to be newb, die lots and struggle. Makes the rewards that much more satisfying. Remember you only get that newb experience one time.

[WrathOfSammy]

I'm not sure it is the "most" difficult, but it does seem oddly confusing in the beginning. I just started playing this weekend. The tutorial missions seem to leave out important details. I got to a part where my NPC teammate keeps going ahead of me, gets shot, and I fail the mission. I will figure it out eventually, but so far, this isn't fun at all.

I am also having some video and audio glitches that other people complain about. It seems like they spent too much time on the story and not enough on the gameplay. That is the criticism I am seeing around the web too. I hope it turns around because it looks like a lot of fun to play. It just goes to show that you can't trust the ratings.

[Bloodysod]

Think of yourself as a one-eyed cat with a few extra lives.

[wicked lester]

I don't recall the intro being difficult. Tedious as hell, walking through snow at a snail's pace like it was tar, but not difficult.

[Tiberius]

The game is not hard at all, you just need some common sense to manage it, controls are pretty simple and waht you gotta do is obvious and pretty much the same as one in real life would do.

[WrathOfSammy]

Publicado originalmente por Bloodysod:

Think of yourself as a one-eyed cat with a few extra lives.

You forgot the two broken legs that cause you to move sooooo slooooooowwwwww.

Publicado originalmente por wicked lester:

I don't recall the intro being difficult. Tedious as hell, walking through snow at a snail's pace like it was tar, but not difficult.

I guess it depends on what you are calling the intro. I am probably past the point you are referring to. But I still consider it the beginning because I am still learning new basic skills.

Publicado originalmente por SP4RT4N92:

The game is not hard at all, you just need some common sense to manage it, controls are pretty simple and waht you gotta do is obvious and pretty much the same as one in real life would do.

Simply contradicting people does not add much to the conversation. Some will find it hard, and some will find it easy. I found the controls (X-BOX controller on Win10) to be clunky, which is exacerbated by the fact that the default movement is ridiculously slow. I'm in a gun fight and my character moves like he's meandering through a museum. It's poor design, IMO.

[Tiberius]

Publicado originalmente por WrathOfSammy:

Publicado originalmente por Bloodysod:

Think of yourself as a one-eyed cat with a few extra lives.

You forgot the two broken legs that cause you to move sooooo slooooooowwwwww.

Publicado originalmente por wicked lester:

I don't recall the intro being difficult. Tedious as hell, walking through snow at a snail's pace like it was tar, but not difficult.

I guess it depends on what you are calling the intro. I am probably past the point you are referring to. But I still consider it the beginning because I am still learning new basic skills.

Publicado originalmente por SP4RT4N92:

The game is not hard at all, you just need some common sense to manage it, controls are pretty simple and waht you gotta do is obvious and pretty much the same as one in real life would do.

Simply contradicting people does not add much to the conversation. Some will find it hard, and some will find it easy. I found the controls (X-BOX controller on Win10) to be clunky, which is exacerbated by the fact that the default movement is ridiculously slow. I'm in a gun fight and my character moves like he's meandering through a museum. It's poor design, IMO.

I am not contradicting anyone, I am just sharing my opinion same as the OP does in his topic.

And I am playing without a controller, what is the point of playing on a PC using a controller lol ?

Keyboard and Mouse is much superior in terms fo control.

[$2 Hero]

its horrible you cant skip cutscenes and you cant tell the npcs to shut up

[WrathOfSammy]

Publicado originalmente por SP4RT4N92:

I am not contradicting anyone, I am just sharing my opinion same as the OP does in his topic.

And I am playing without a controller, what is the point of playing on a PC using a controller lol ?

Keyboard and Mouse is much superior in terms fo control.

Your opinion is the opposite of the OP, which by definition would be contradicting. I am not sure why I would need to explain that. People like to take a topic like this and fill it with subjective contradictory opinions that don't really add anything to the debate.

Good game developers will give new players enough of a tutorial to understand the basic mechanics of the game while leaving room to figure out more advanced gameplay on their own. My opinion, mostly based on comparing it to other games that I have played, is that this game falls short in that area. The intro seems more focused on long stretches of travelling and dialogue. In a few spots, the dialogue and tips were even on the screen at the same time, and I didn't catch everything.

Why do you care that I use a controller? Again it is a subjective opinion, and it is pointless to debate. That boring argument has been going on for decades, and it never gets resolved. I usually play this type of game on a console, and I prefer the fluidity of a controller over a keyboard and mouse. I also spend all day working on a computer, and it is nice to be able to lean back and play games in a different way. It is just a personal preference. I regret not buying it for PS4 instead of PC, but I don't recall if I even had my PS4 at that time.

[Tiberius]

Publicado originalmente por WrathOfSammy:

Publicado originalmente por SP4RT4N92:

I am not contradicting anyone, I am just sharing my opinion same as the OP does in his topic.

And I am playing without a controller, what is the point of playing on a PC using a controller lol ?

Keyboard and Mouse is much superior in terms fo control.

Your opinion is the opposite of the OP, which by definition would be contradicting. I am not sure why I would need to explain that. People like to take a topic like this and fill it with subjective contradictory opinions that don't really add anything to the debate.

Good game developers will give new players enough of a tutorial to understand the basic mechanics of the game while leaving room to figure out more advanced gameplay on their own. My opinion, mostly based on comparing it to other games that I have played, is that this game falls short in that area. The intro seems more focused on long stretches of travelling and dialogue. In a few spots, the dialogue and tips were even on the screen at the same time, and I didn't catch everything.

Why do you care that I use a controller? Again it is a subjective opinion, and it is pointless to debate. That boring argument has been going on for decades, and it never gets resolved. I usually play this type of game on a console, and I prefer the fluidity of a controller over a keyboard and mouse. I also spend all day working on a computer, and it is nice to be able to lean back and play games in a different way. It is just a personal preference. I regret not buying it for PS4 instead of PC, but I don't recall if I even had my PS4 at that time.

Am I supposed to apologize for having an opinion that opposes the opinion of the OP? What exactly do you want from me ?

I have played many games in my life and don't find this to be difficult in any way. Hence I am surprised that he feels very differently about it to the extend that he even feels the need to open a thread about it and share it with us, must really bother him.

I don't care if you use a controller but I don't think you should be moaning about controls if you are using a controller and not a keyboard and mouse which this game was originally intended to be used with.

[Ahroovi]

Publicado originalmente por SP4RT4N92:

Publicado originalmente por WrathOfSammy:

Your opinion is the opposite of the OP, which by definition would be contradicting. I am not sure why I would need to explain that. People like to take a topic like this and fill it with subjective contradictory opinions that don't really add anything to the debate.

Good game developers will give new players enough of a tutorial to understand the basic mechanics of the game while leaving room to figure out more advanced gameplay on their own. My opinion, mostly based on comparing it to other games that I have played, is that this game falls short in that area. The intro seems more focused on long stretches of travelling and dialogue. In a few spots, the dialogue and tips were even on the screen at the same time, and I didn't catch everything.

Why do you care that I use a controller? Again it is a subjective opinion, and it is pointless to debate. That boring argument has been going on for decades, and it never gets resolved. I usually play this type of game on a console, and I prefer the fluidity of a controller over a keyboard and mouse. I also spend all day working on a computer, and it is nice to be able to lean back and play games in a different way. It is just a personal preference. I regret not buying it for PS4 instead of PC, but I don't recall if I even had my PS4 at that time.

Am I supposed to apologize for having an opinion that opposes the opinion of the OP? What exactly do you want from me ?

I have played many games in my life and don't find this to be difficult in any way. Hence I am surprised that he feels very differently about it to the extend that he even feels the need to open a thread about it and share it with us, must really bother him.

I don't care if you use a controller but I don't think you should be moaning about controls if you are using a controller and not a keyboard and mouse which this game was originally intended to be used with.

Game comes out on consoles a year before PC release>says it was designed with PC controls in mind.
The smooth/physics movement they go for in game plays a lot better on a controller for me, and many others. There's not a million keybinds to deal with, clunky menu's that won't let you bind certain keys that conflict, even if it's not used at the same time as another key IE keys for card games vs keys for on foot movement.
The controls can be jank, and that's coming from someone who has tried PC controls and controller on this AND GTAV. And much prefers the controller.

And a PC gives you the option to use whatever input you want. You can play FPS games using a steering wheel if you want. Up to the user. Plug anything in with USB, PS/2, or any kind of adapters, and if it's not natively supported, you can find a way to bind it.

[WrathOfSammy]

Publicado originalmente por SP4RT4N92:

Am I supposed to apologize for having an opinion that opposes the opinion of the OP? What exactly do you want from me ?

I have played many games in my life and don't find this to be difficult in any way. Hence I am surprised that he feels very differently about it to the extend that he even feels the need to open a thread about it and share it with us, must really bother him.

I don't care if you use a controller but I don't think you should be moaning about controls if you are using a controller and not a keyboard and mouse which this game was originally intended to be used with.

Oh my. This would almost be comical if it weren't also kinda sad.

If you are not capable of comprehending someone else's viewpoint, it is best to let it go and not clutter the forum with posts that only disagree for the sake of disagreeing.

[Tiberius]

Publicado originalmente por WrathOfSammy:

Publicado originalmente por SP4RT4N92:

Am I supposed to apologize for having an opinion that opposes the opinion of the OP? What exactly do you want from me ?

I have played many games in my life and don't find this to be difficult in any way. Hence I am surprised that he feels very differently about it to the extend that he even feels the need to open a thread about it and share it with us, must really bother him.

I don't care if you use a controller but I don't think you should be moaning about controls if you are using a controller and not a keyboard and mouse which this game was originally intended to be used with.

Oh my. This would almost be comical if it weren't also kinda sad.

If you are not capable of comprehending someone else's viewpoint, it is best to let it go and not clutter the forum with posts that only disagree for the sake of disagreeing.

What is there to comprehend? He hasn't explained why he finds it to be so difficult in his actual thread and even if I would " understand " it, it does not mean I share the same opinion.

It is kind of sad that there are still snowflakes like you who go around insulting and attacking people for having a different opinion.

If you want to disagree with me you can do that, your good right, but to attack someone for simply sharing an opinion is a pretty immature thing to do.

So get over it, snowflake.

Publicado originalmente por Ahroovi:

Publicado originalmente por SP4RT4N92:

Am I supposed to apologize for having an opinion that opposes the opinion of the OP? What exactly do you want from me ?

I have played many games in my life and don't find this to be difficult in any way. Hence I am surprised that he feels very differently about it to the extend that he even feels the need to open a thread about it and share it with us, must really bother him.

I don't care if you use a controller but I don't think you should be moaning about controls if you are using a controller and not a keyboard and mouse which this game was originally intended to be used with.

Game comes out on consoles a year before PC release>says it was designed with PC controls in mind.
The smooth/physics movement they go for in game plays a lot better on a controller for me, and many others. There's not a million keybinds to deal with, clunky menu's that won't let you bind certain keys that conflict, even if it's not used at the same time as another key IE keys for card games vs keys for on foot movement.
The controls can be jank, and that's coming from someone who has tried PC controls and controller on this AND GTAV. And much prefers the controller.

And a PC gives you the option to use whatever input you want. You can play FPS games using a steering wheel if you want. Up to the user. Plug anything in with USB, PS/2, or any kind of adapters, and if it's not natively supported, you can find a way to bind it.

I play with KM since the 90s and people who use controllers are usually people that can't handle a PC very well as they are used to consoles, usually kids who use consoles and controllers, not my thing nor something I would support.