why is a 5 year old game $60+ ?

[nektar]

and the ultimate edition is $100+, talk about unreasonable expectations! I wouldnt touch this with a 10-foot pole.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well if you played RDR2 then you would understand that the VALUE of it has not changed since release day. Again some of you are just being cheap and expect all games to drop in price over time. Well most will never do that and will only occur through sale-discount periods. Live with it.

However, do not buy RDR2 for the Online and DO NOT waste money on the RDO Standalone.

RDR2 is actually better now then before, due to the Modding Community. If you aren't interested in that, then why you'd even bother with RDR2 on PC, I don't understand. Unless you just do not want or refuse to have a Game Console, such as XBX/PS5.

[nektar]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Well if you played RDR2 then you would understand that the VALUE of it has not changed since release day.

However, do not buy RDR2 for the Online and DO NOT waste money on the RDO Standalone.

RDR2 is actually better now then before, due to the Modding Community. If you aren't interested in that, then why you'd even bother with RDR2 on PC, I don't understand. Unless you just do not want or refuse to have a Game Console, such as XBX/PS5.

I think the value you are talking about is the sentimental/gameplay value. This is subjective btw. By saying subjective, I am referring to the fact that not everyone will agree with you, hence its subjective.
The value im talking about is the monetary value which is an objective finding (not subjective). Unless there is an inflation problem with a specific currency or the global economy has issues, the price of games should go down thru the years (not increase or stay fixed at the same price).
The modding community could add value but then again it doesnt come free, you are paying more then expected at these prices for the game.
I have a high-end PC, why would I even want to downgrade to a XBX or PS5?
By the way im not saying the game is trash or holds no value.
Its the unrealistic pricing im against , not the game itself.

[Trinity]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

RDR2 runs on a good PC all day long at 60-120 FPS easy with everything cranked up and looking good, in 1440p or 2160p; SO IDK WTF yal talking about.

For me im running a 14700k m.2 samsung 980 pro 2tb 32gigs of 6400 ram (its oc ofc) rtx 4070 and everything on max i stay between 130-160 fps @ 1440p. I didnt even turn off e cores and just leave turbo boost on but fwiw I was getting less fps without oc the ram. But then it still ran buttery smoothe.

edit: i dont advise anybody oc their ram bad things can happen if you cant get a stable speed and it can cause heating issues and also shorten the life of your ram sticks. Only do that if you dont care if you have to buy another ram kit one day in the future XD

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Monetary value is also very subjective. There are plenty of sub-$30 games that could have more value to the user because of playability and such. But many of those games are from a single dev or very small companies who have no business charging $60.

One reason many AA/AAA Games are $40-70 is because they have a LARGE TEAM of people they need to pay, or have paid already and need to recoup the money for.

Some of you seem to think it's all 100% profits for someone. Not true. There are fees these companies have to pay to even sell the games on other platforms (such as EPIC, STEAM, Microsoft Store) not to mention other things, like ongoing Support, etc.

If you pay the game price, whatever that is, and do not like it for find it worth your money; refund it. However avoid making a habit of that, especially since you can pretty much go online and find good gamplay videos that can showcase how the game plays, what to expect, etc. all before ever buying.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by Cardboard ops:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

RDR2 runs on a good PC all day long at 60-120 FPS easy with everything cranked up and looking good, in 1440p or 2160p; SO IDK WTF yal talking about.

For me im running a 14700k m.2 samsung 980 pro 2tb 32gigs of 6400 ram (its oc ofc) rtx 4070 and everything on max i stay between 130-160 fps @ 1440p. I didnt even turn off e cores and just leave turbo boost on but fwiw I was getting less fps without oc the ram. But then it still ran buttery smoothe.

I had no problems getting 60-90 FPS on a 4790K w/ 32GB RAM, 2x SSDs, RTX 3080 @ 1440p 21:9

People complaining (not all of them, I know) are people with potato PCs and then they want to be cheap at the same time and say a AAA game is now all of a sudden, because it's 5 years after release (6 actually, but there was a 1 year gap for PC version) not worth the asking price anymore; they need to grow up and get with the real world.

Many times when someone has major issues and they share their specs, I sometimes can't help buy laugh. As the specs weren't even good enough in 2018, let alone 2024.

I'm not rich either, but I build PCs to last. And using an i3 or i5 (unless it's maybe Intel 10th Gen or newer) or an NVIDIA GPU below GTX 1080 or RTX 3060 is fairly idiotic to think you will be able to run many modern games well on such outdated and/or low end stuff like a GTX 960 or 1050 for example.

[Trinity]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Originally posted by Cardboard ops:

For me im running a 14700k m.2 samsung 980 pro 2tb 32gigs of 6400 ram (its oc ofc) rtx 4070 and everything on max i stay between 130-160 fps @ 1440p. I didnt even turn off e cores and just leave turbo boost on but fwiw I was getting less fps without oc the ram. But then it still ran buttery smoothe.

I had no problems getting 60-90 FPS on a 4790K w/ 32GB RAM, 2x SSDs, RTX 3080 @ 1440p 21:9

People complaining (not all of them, I know) are people with potato PCs and then they want to be cheap at the same time and say a AAA game is now all of a sudden, because it's 5 years after release (6 actually, but there was a 1 year gap for PC version) not worth the asking price anymore; they need to grow up and get with the real world.

that is still a great rig to this day for a lot of games

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Especially since the 3080 I put in there was brand new, purchased in 2023 for $480

[Trinity]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Especially since the 3080 I put in there was brand new, purchased in 2023 for $480

i got a freind of the family that uses a 3080 for this game and he has no complaints

[nektar]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Monetary value is also very subjective. There are plenty of sub-$30 games that could have more value to the user because of playability and such. But many of those games are from a single dev or very small companies who have no business charging $60.

One reason many AA/AAA Games are $40-70 is because they have a LARGE TEAM of people they need to pay, or have paid already and need to recoup the money for.

Some of you seem to think it's all 100% profits for someone. Not true. There are fees these companies have to pay to even sell the games on other platforms (such as EPIC, STEAM, Microsoft Store) not to mention other things, like ongoing Support, etc.

If you pay the game price, whatever that is, and do not like it for find it worth your money; refund it. However avoid making a habit of that, especially since you can pretty much go online and find good gamplay videos that can showcase how the game plays, what to expect, etc. all before ever buying.

My friend, a games monetary value is NOT subjective. The market and economy dictates the price of games. That is an objective finding by definition. It has nothing to do with a small or large team. So many companies have expenses, but they follow the market. The only thing smaller companies have as an advantage is smaller overhead but that isnt always necessarily a good thing when scaling and making a product.
Like I said before, im not against the game, its the pricing I find unfair, there for in principle I will not buy it. (until maybe the pricing is corrected).

[Bad 💀 Motha]

But again the price can be found lower elsewhere, if you are willing to go that route.

Steam takes a certain % so that is sometimes why you may find a game on Steam at a higher price then some place else.

If monetary value was not a thing, then we wouldn't even be having this debate/discussion. You folks who say this price or that price is too high and/or unfair just proved my whole point. You made monetary value subjective by doing that. You want the full product, but not at the asking prices, that's a YOU problem.

[nektar]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

But again the price can be found lower elsewhere, if you are willing to go that route.

Steam takes a certain % so that is sometimes why you may find a game on Steam at a higher price then some place else.

If monetary value was not a thing, then we wouldn't even be having this debate/discussion. You folks who say this price or that price is too high and/or unfair just proved my whole point. You made monetary value subjective by doing that. You want the full product, but not at the asking prices, that's a YOU problem.

Ohhh so now its a Steam problem? not an overpriced 5 year old game by Rockstar LoL
The only problem i see, is you not knowing what subjective and objective is and telling everyone its okay to overpay for no reason whatsoever.

[Trinity]

Originally posted by nektar:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

But again the price can be found lower elsewhere, if you are willing to go that route.

Steam takes a certain % so that is sometimes why you may find a game on Steam at a higher price then some place else.

If monetary value was not a thing, then we wouldn't even be having this debate/discussion. You folks who say this price or that price is too high and/or unfair just proved my whole point. You made monetary value subjective by doing that. You want the full product, but not at the asking prices, that's a YOU problem.

Ohhh so now its a Steam problem? not an overpriced 5 year old game by Rockstar LoL
The only problem i see, is you not knowing what subjective and objective is and telling everyone its okay to overpay for no reason whatsoever.

Game goes on sale all the time. Just wait it out if you dont wanna pay full price?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

^ Exactly.

No one said you have to pay that $60/100 for it; if you some how feel it's still not worth the asking price when on-sale, then this is a YOU problem once again.

[RageMojo]

Originally posted by Management:

greed , and not worth 20$ just like gtaV being 15$ on sale when cheating is rampant .:staredown:

No one should be buying rockstar games for the multiplayer.

[Slender]

Originally posted by Management:

greed , and not worth 20$ just like gtaV being 15$ on sale when cheating is rampant .:staredown:

(play singleplayer lol)