Poor John Marston

[Chilltex]

Playing epilogue for the first time finally. I feel bad for John, capital C for a wife, and a soy boy son.

[someone]

𝒯𝒽𝒶𝓉’𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓌𝒶𝓎 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈..

[XOLiD]

I swear Abigail has no concept of anything in her tiny mind other than 'mAh sOn".
Getting mad at John for protecting pronghorn ranch made no sense at all.

[Chilltex]

Originally posted by XOLiD:

I swear Abigail has no concept of anything in her tiny mind other than 'mAh sOn".
Getting mad at John for protecting pronghorn ranch made no sense at all.

Exactly, and it also has benefits for doing so later on. She is never appreciative, questions everything John does, never apologizes of tries to understand John's position. Poor character with not much growth. I have not played RDR 1, so I am not sure on any further character development.

Please all try to refrain from posting any spoilers from RDR 1, thank you.

[someone]

Originally posted by Chilltex:

Originally posted by XOLiD:

I swear Abigail has no concept of anything in her tiny mind other than 'mAh sOn".
Getting mad at John for protecting pronghorn ranch made no sense at all.

Exactly, and it also has benefits for doing so later on. She is never appreciative, questions everything John does, never apologizes of tries to understand John's position. Poor character with not much growth. I have not played RDR 1, so I am not sure on any further character development.

Please all try to refrain from posting any spoilers from RDR 1, thank you.

I get where you're coming from, but I think Abigail’s frustration comes from worrying about John’s safety and the future of the family. She’s protective, especially of Jack, and her concerns aren't just about him being a 'soy boy.' Their relationship is complicated, and I think there's more depth to Abigail’s character when you consider the bigger picture, especially from RDR1.

[Chilltex]

Originally posted by ~~~~:

Originally posted by Chilltex:

Exactly, and it also has benefits for doing so later on. She is never appreciative, questions everything John does, never apologizes of tries to understand John's position. Poor character with not much growth. I have not played RDR 1, so I am not sure on any further character development.

Please all try to refrain from posting any spoilers from RDR 1, thank you.

I get where you're coming from, but I think Abigail’s frustration comes from worrying about John’s safety and the future of the family. She’s protective, especially of Jack, and her concerns aren't just about him being a 'soy boy.' Their relationship is complicated, and I think there's more depth to Abigail’s character when you consider the bigger picture, especially from RDR1.

I understand what you're saying. She doesn't handle it well at all, doesn't seem to think outside of Jack. Which in turn her reactions right in front make things become a bigger issue to Jack, therefore causing it to be even more traumatic. And even going so far to take the boy away from a father figure. Overall I guess I would find it highly improbable for a woman and a single boy to just "disappear" and be safe walking back into John's life, in that sort of world. Seems too modern of a character, at least from a RDR2 perspective. I will have to pick up the remaster of RDR 1 soon, see where this story goes. I just hope her character shows more growth.

[Apeson]

𝓟𝓵𝓪𝔂 𝓡𝓓𝓡1

[Wizard of Woz]

Take the RL lesson, don't marry a prostitute.

[Qwickkill]

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

Take the RL lesson, don't marry a prostitute.

ROFL.

[Righty]

Originally posted by Chilltex:

Originally posted by XOLiD:

I swear Abigail has no concept of anything in her tiny mind other than 'mAh sOn".
Getting mad at John for protecting pronghorn ranch made no sense at all.

Exactly, and it also has benefits for doing so later on. She is never appreciative, questions everything John does, never apologizes of tries to understand John's position. Poor character with not much growth. I have not played RDR 1, so I am not sure on any further character development.

Please all try to refrain from posting any spoilers from RDR 1, thank you.

John Marston was probably glad to walk out of the barn and get shot by edgar ross, he would either die and never see her again or live and probably never return to his family

[HerculeHolmes]

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

Take the RL lesson, don't marry a prostitute.

Prostitutes are already married... to the streets.

[Draekus2]

Originally posted by HerculeHolmes:

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

Take the RL lesson, don't marry a prostitute.

Prostitutes are already married... to the streets.

author Terry Pratchett regarded prostitutes as " ladies of negotiable affection "

[Lazarus]

In order to understand Abigail~
You'd have to live a hard life in the first place
Someone who grew up in a 4+ bedroom 3+ bath, who got everything handed to em' just isn't gonna understand
The man is a criminal, who has a wife that isn't some cheating tiktok user; (faithful) and a son who already seen more than what 90% of y'all did in your entire life.
Ofc she's gonna be peed off lol, She knows that he will die one day, the only answer; is when.
Then shes scared that her son will grow up just like em' because boys are impressionable like that.
"Why can't she just get off his back" Do you not see the irony in that statement?
If you've noticed in real life, almost everyone got divorced- and not many are established upon sturdy foundations. It's kinda the same concept.
Someone head apparently wasn't in the right place, they were distracted with things that should have never mattered.

[Wizard of Woz]

Originally posted by Lazarus:

In order to understand Abigail~
You'd have to live a hard life in the first place
Someone who grew up in a 4+ bedroom 3+ bath, who got everything handed to em' just isn't gonna understand
The man is a criminal, who has a wife that isn't some cheating tiktok user; (faithful) and a son who already seen more than what 90% of y'all did in your entire life.
Ofc she's gonna be peed off lol, She knows that he will die one day, the only answer; is when.
Then shes scared that her son will grow up just like em' because boys are impressionable like that.
"Why can't she just get off his back" Do you not see the irony in that statement?
If you've noticed in real life, almost everyone got divorced- and not many are established upon sturdy foundations. It's kinda the same concept.
Someone head apparently wasn't in the right place, they were distracted with things that should have never mattered.

Oh look someone trying to compensate for when they talk to their significant other like Abigail does...

[Klax]

WOMAN BAD! MAN GOOD!
oh sorry i forgot CHILDREN BAD!

[Lazarus]

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

Originally posted by Lazarus:

In order to understand Abigail~
You'd have to live a hard life in the first place
Someone who grew up in a 4+ bedroom 3+ bath, who got everything handed to em' just isn't gonna understand
The man is a criminal, who has a wife that isn't some cheating tiktok user; (faithful) and a son who already seen more than what 90% of y'all did in your entire life.
Ofc she's gonna be peed off lol, She knows that he will die one day, the only answer; is when.
Then shes scared that her son will grow up just like em' because boys are impressionable like that.
"Why can't she just get off his back" Do you not see the irony in that statement?
If you've noticed in real life, almost everyone got divorced- and not many are established upon sturdy foundations. It's kinda the same concept.
Someone head apparently wasn't in the right place, they were distracted with things that should have never mattered.

Oh look someone trying to compensate for when they talk to their significant other like Abigail does...

I ain't no simp lol
But there is a difference between a woman complaining; and a woman genuinely not being happy with her environment.
I mean, hell- this is a video game; and were tryin' to break down the morals behind the nonexistent woman.
Ya first gotta understand history, and how committed those women were to the man they loved~ back in the day. They may have complained, but leaving wasn't an option.
Then you actually gotta do like, criminal activities irl first~ before you could ever understand the consequences of loving someone who is "for the streets"
Because yes~ that saying goes to us men too.
Gangb4ngers belong to the streets, because they literally run the streets.
Outlaws, were the equivalent of that. You were morally bad whenever it benefited you.
I'm definitely not a simp tho lol
If the game was centered around smartphones; I'd tell that b**** shes "for the streets" lol