What is the point?

[nervoustobealive]

I don't understand why there is little or no information explaining anything that is going on. I just started. I do the tutorial. I steal the horse. Guy gives me the horse. I set up the camp. My first mission was to meet Cripps at the general store. I ride all the way across new Austin to get there. He decides we'll do business. I start riding my horse back to the camp, west of new autsin, a pop up in purple appears on my screen. I have no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clue what it is. I click on it expecting it to explain what it is. It teleports me to another state. Where I am involved in some kind of train robbing free for all death match. I can't escape. I have no idea what to do. I'm trying to find info and just getting one-shot over and over. The out of bounds moves. So I keep trying to read some information on what the game mode is. And I'm just dying. After the ten minutes of being held hostage the instance ends. And it leaves me exactly where the game stopped. Two states away from where I just was. I don't have the money to fast travel. I ride my horse all the way back to the camp, huting and gathering pelts to help cripps become a trader.

Only to find that I need to spend 15 gold bars on a magick table so he can turn the pelts into money.

I have 0.42 gold bars.

What the ♥♥♥♥ is even the point of this game? MMOs are almost 30 years old at this point. how the ♥♥♥♥ is ROCKSTAR making such deliberately infuriating mistakes? Why does my health disappear? How do I communicate with another player? I keep getting messages saying, ROCKSTAR GAMES MESSAGE: 0000000000000000000000. Why does it take 11 shots to kill an enemy but I die in one? Are ranks just purely costmetic? How do i level up my health? Is there armor?


So now what? Just keep running around in the desert skinning pronghorns and selling them to the butcher until I can buy 15 gold bars?

This game is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mess. Its beautiful. But they spent all their effort into making everything realistically pretty/rugged/brutal and completely forgot to make an intuitive gaming experience or cohesive world.

[globefish23]

This not an RPG game.

It's a sandbox with PVP deathmatch modes, plus a lot of grinding mechanics with the sole intent to get peopld spending on microtransactions.

Make what you want of it.
Learning by doing.
It's dangerous out in the West.
No one will take you by the hand.

[PapaCrazy]

The point of story mode is redemption. The point of multiplayer mode is Rockstar's profit model.

[samcharles77]

Yes, Rockstar definitely could have done a better job with the tutorial for online. You have to learn about most things by online research and doing them.
Your primary sources of gold bars will be; story missions, stranger missions and free roam events. Just participating in any of the free roam events gets you cash and gold. Play each event a few times and you'll get the hang of them.
Gold bars are slow to come by at first but as you unlock the roles and level up in them you will be rolling in bars.

[4kGamer]

Make sure sure you use the "L" Key to open the Player lobby menu to see what daily challenges you can accomplish. Once you select a role to level up you will get daily challenges for each role. Each consecutive day that you complete daily quests increases your gold nugget multiplier to a maximum of x2.5 or .5 of a gold bar. As you level your character R* also gives you a treasure map for every 5 levels you gain.

[nervoustobealive]

Messaggio originale di 4kGamer:

Make sure sure you use the "L" Key to open the Player lobby menu to see what daily challenges you can accomplish. Once you select a role to level up you will get daily challenges for each role. Each consecutive day that you complete daily quests increases your gold nugget multiplier to a maximum of x2.5 or .5 of a gold bar. As you level your character R* also gives you a treasure map for every 5 levels you gain.

This is exactly the kind of information I'm looking for. It took me a *very* long time just to find the keyboard controls and this is a thing I didn't know about.

I did one stranger mission which turned out to be an ambush. Which killed me a few times.

And I keep avoiding the Events because I don't know how to fish. Or having a fishing pole or bait or lures. The one train fight I did got me a little piece of gold and some xp. Even though I went 3/11.

I was just wondering what I'm supposed to be doing since there aren't any quest givers and the Ultimate Edition I got came with an outfit. I guess emotes and a bigger camp?

Also, why does the game keep confusing my horses? Whenever I whistly ethe scrawny nag from before the beginner horsethief quest appears, and I have to log out and go to my camp to get my named nice horse that I have a rank 3 bond with.

[Adrien H Wallace]

Messaggio originale di globefish23:

This not an RPG game.

It's a sandbox with PVP deathmatch modes, plus a lot of grinding mechanics with the sole intent to get peopld spending on microtransactions.

Make what you want of it.
Learning by doing.
It's dangerous out in the West.
No one will take you by the hand.

It *IS* an RPG. You create and customize your character. Sure it has a FPS aspect to it, but it's still an RPG. It has all the tell tale signs of an RPG. You level, you have character customization, you put together teams to cooperatively achieve goals, you have people acting out their characters in game with words like, "Howdy Partner" and so forth. You unlock abilities and items as you level up... what part of RPG is this missing exactly?

Also, unless you want this game to become a barren waste land, telling players all that mes that you you just spewed is going to make the game just that. People don't flock to toxic games. They flock to helpful and friendly people...who just happens to be playing a toxic game.

Also, this is not a sandbox game. It has a direction, it has missions to progress you. A true sandbox game would be Star Wars Galaxies pre CU and pre NGE. This is an open world theme park game.

To the OP, it won't take much to get the hang of it. Just follow the story missions for now. They are highlighted in Yellow on your map. You can also run the missions highlighted in orange as well. Hunting and selling is also a good way to make cash, just make sure you are killing 3 Star deer for the best return. You can either buy gold or save it to get your Bounty Hunter License and or start your trading business...the trading business gains you a ton of cash. Hope this helps.

[Dregora]

Messaggio originale di Adrien H Wallace:

Messaggio originale di globefish23:

This not an RPG game.

It's a sandbox with PVP deathmatch modes, plus a lot of grinding mechanics with the sole intent to get peopld spending on microtransactions.

Make what you want of it.
Learning by doing.
It's dangerous out in the West.
No one will take you by the hand.

It *IS* an RPG. You create and customize your character. Sure it has a FPS aspect to it, but it's still an RPG. It has all the tell tale signs of an RPG. You level, you have character customization, you put together teams to cooperatively achieve goals, you have people acting out their characters in game with words like, "Howdy Partner" and so forth. You unlock abilities and items as you level up... what part of RPG is this missing exactly?

Also, unless you want this game to become a barren waste land, telling players all that mes that you you just spewed is going to make the game just that. People don't flock to toxic games. They flock to helpful and friendly people...who just happens to be playing a toxic game.

Also, this is not a sandbox game. It has a direction, it has missions to progress you. A true sandbox game would be Star Wars Galaxies pre CU and pre NGE. This is an open world theme park game.

To the OP, it won't take much to get the hang of it. Just follow the story missions for now. They are highlighted in Yellow on your map. You can also run the missions highlighted in orange as well. Hunting and selling is also a good way to make cash, just make sure you are killing 3 Star deer for the best return. You can either buy gold or save it to get your Bounty Hunter License and or start your trading business...the trading business gains you a ton of cash. Hope this helps.

It's as much an RPG as Mass Effect 1 is a ''shooter''. You level up in cod too and you have character customization and you put together teams to achieve goals.... you can literally take any game these days and put those few things on it and it'd be accurate, doesn't make it an RPG though. There's a lot more that goes into being an RPG.



Anyway, to OP. Don't judge the game on it's multiplayer, it's not worth it. The strength of these games are singleplayer. Don't ever buy a game from rockstar JUST for multiplayer. If I had to judge this multiplayer alone and give it a rating, i would've given it a 4/10 at most.

But include the single player and it's a 10/10.

[globefish23]

A role playing game is more towards a pen&paper Dungeons &Dragons game.

This is just a chain of fetch and deluvery quests, repeated forever.

Customization is just a syptom of Rockstar's monetarization scheme.
And the leveling is just used to lock things in the beginning, inciting people to buy their ranks.

Apart for the handful of story missions, nothing you do in RDO has any consequence.
The only goal is to earn more cash and gold to buy more stuff you don't have yet.

[Tahiti]

The multiplayer isn't any different from GTA Online, it's pay to enjoy. This game is incredible in its single player, but the multiplayer is trash imo.

[odji888]

OP, did you not play the story mode before the online? Are you completely new to RDR2?

I think a lot of your frustration comes from your expectations; expecting an RPG when in fact RDR2 has RPG elements but it's UI and mechanics differ from classic RPG games (armour, health, perks etc.). If you didn't play story mode, you should at least jump into that first, as the tutorial there is two hours long, and in effect, getting to know the map and mechanics in story mode will deffo help you come to grips with the online part.

I'm making an assumption here - so if you have played the story mode, my bad!

[nervoustobealive]

Okay wow. I had a replay to this. But it disappeared.

And today when I logged in my horse was gone and my camp. Is that normal? Is this game super buggy or am I just missing something? A lot of somethings?

[samcharles77]

Messaggio originale di nervoustobealive:

Okay wow. I had a replay to this. But it disappeared.

And today when I logged in my horse was gone and my camp. Is that normal? Is this game super buggy or am I just missing something? A lot of somethings?

Online has a lot of bugs currently, especially trader/camps. The disappearing camp is probably my number one hated bug.

[nervoustobealive]

Also, am I the only one not cheating in this death matches? I'm getting one shot by repeater revolvers but the guy will be holding a shotgun... from across the map.

[odji888]

Messaggio originale di nervoustobealive:

Also, am I the only one not cheating in this death matches? I'm getting one shot by repeater revolvers but the guy will be holding a shotgun... from across the map.

slug rounds are surprisingly accurate, i suppose not everyone is cheating

[nervoustobealive]

Yeah... joined a queue right outside Tumbleweed. Game ends and I'm in Caliga hall and my horse is gone again.

hasn't this game be out for 2 years now?