What's up with the mask doing nothing in single player?

[ᛁᛖᛊᚢᛊ ᚨᚱ ᚷᚢᛞ]

It's literally a mask, how can some random policeman know that I'm John Marston, how the hell can they tell that, they've never met me, they've never even heard of me.

PLUS I wear a mask, how on earth can they know that it was me who robbed the train?

It's the wild west man, no law and order, early 1900s, come on man. This is some serious BS.

[CrEaToXx]

They did it for balance reasons. Use a law mod already.

[AdmiralPiett]

Originally posted by Victory Forever:

It's literally a mask, how can some random policeman know that I'm John Marston, how the hell can they tell that, they've never met me, they've never even heard of me.

PLUS I wear a mask, how on earth can they know that it was me who robbed the train?

It's the wild west man, no law and order, early 1900s, come on man. This is some serious BS.

Dude

The whole POINT of the amazing story of RDR2 is that it's NOT the wild west anymore. That there IS law and order now. That the old ways of getting away with it don't work anymore, with better trained security and ruthless pinkertons and posses who will pursue outlaws to the ends of the earth.

You can't just ride off into the sunset from a train robbery and "put enough time and distance between you and the problem" anymore, as they say in game.

If you can't see that, then, well, you're as blind as Dutch was

[CrEaToXx]

Well, that still doesn't validate they spawn in right in front of your eyes on a moving train, or somehow magically know a train was robbed around the corner.

Also, why would it be plausible everybody starts a gang war on me if I accidentally hit people in town? If it's all about law and order then how do they not manage to keep order in towns and cities, and make damn sure citizens aren't walking on the street?

Just say it as it is and don't spin any magic weaving around your jewel you feel is attacked. They did that simply for difficulty and balance reasons.

[AdmiralPiett]

Originally posted by CrEaToXx:

Well, that still doesn't validate they spawn in right in front of your eyes on a moving train, or somehow magically know a train was robbed around the corner.

Also, why would it be plausible everybody starts a gang war on me if I accidentally hit people in town? If it's all about law and order then how do they not manage to keep order in towns and cities, and make damn sure citizens aren't walking on the street?

Just say it as it is and don't spin any magic weaving around your jewel you feel is attacked. They did that simply for difficulty and balance reasons.

Jaywalking was not illegal in this time period. The road was still shared use, not owned by cars. If you're galloping full speed through town and run down a pedestrian, that's on you, not them. If you punch somebody in the open street too you better believe they're gonna kick your ass.

To your first point, no guards are randomly spawning on moving trains. There's usually two guards in the rear most car, two guards in the car right behind the engine, and the engineer. The reason they seem to "magically" know a train was robbed around the corner is because of a little thing called EYEWITNESSES. If you rob a train in the middle of the map, people are gonna see it and report it. The sound of gunshots travels a long way, especially if you just killed 4 guards in quick succession. The game then takes this into account and dispatches a patrol to the train's position. If you rob the train up high in the grizzlies or in the backwoods of New Austin, this doesn't happen

[CrEaToXx]

I'm not galopping at all. I immerse into the game as proposed. I also don't run around and randomly punch people unless attacked. I'm not that kind of player. I hinched my horse, went playing poker, returned to the horse and unhinched and did a mindless 180° accidentally hitting a drunken person that came literally out of nowhere and the whole town was unsheathing their torches and forks. Needless to say the first time this happened I was so perplex I just stood there doing nothing and allowing the whole town to gang rape kill me, because WTF!

Since then I "park" my horse well outside of town. And I don't think that's the intented way to play the game, given any other ped is free to ride their horses into the center, and frequently ramming each other all over the place without consequence, because the ai pathing would occasionally fail.

The guards occasionally spawn on the train out of nowhere, just as some of the animal carcasses do if you ride through the woods with a fast pace. The engine simply can't cope with me stressing its to its limits with all settings on Ultra. You'd think a 13700k, 4090, 64 gigs of @6.000 RAM and an EVO990 should seal the deal sweetly. But appearantly it doesn't do that always.

I'm not complaining because I'm used to huge scope open world games. But that doesn't mean I will just blidnly ignore bugs and glitches.

[AdmiralPiett]

Originally posted by CrEaToXx:

I'm not galopping at all. I immerse into the game as proposed. I also don't run around and randomly punch people unless attacked. I'm not that kind of player. I hinched my horse, went playing poker, returned to the horse and unhinched and did a mindless 180° accidentally hitting a drunken person that came literally out of nowhere and the whole town was unsheathing their torches and forks. Needless to say the first time this happened I was so perplex I just stood there doing nothing and allowing the whole town to gang rape kill me, because WTF!

Since then I "park" my horse well outside of town. And I don' think that's the intented way to play the game, given any other ped is free to ride their horses into the center, and frequently ramming each other all over the place without consequence.

The guards occasionally spawn on the train out of nowhere, just as some of the animal carcasses do if you ride through the woods with a fast pace. The engine simply can't cope with me stressing its to its limits with all settings on Ultra. You'd think a 13700k, 4090, 64 gigs of @6.000 RAM and an EVO990 should seal the deal sweetly. But appearantly it doesn't do that always.

Your little system flex there wasn't subtle at all. Pretty cringe.

You said it yourself: you did a mindless 180 in your horse and hit a pedestrian. Also, normal civilians don't attack you if you commit a crime, just the sheriff, his deputies, or the PD (if applicable)

[CrEaToXx]

To be fair, I shall point out my second reaction was something in the line of:"Holy Christ, what an insanely crazy good game"! I love every single minute playing it. But truth be told, it has some nasty bugs, glitches and flaws.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

It "can" work but it does not work how it should work by default, or how it works in RDR1. Basically you'd have to never be seen by any Lawmen at all for it to ever work. And you've have to put it on before any Civs involved who are going to end up seeing you, do any crimes or are able to be witnesses to anything.

Overall all you can really do is just commit whatever crime and then get well out of that area as quickly as possible.

There are a couple Mods that address this and also fix the issues with Lawmen showing up quickly when you're doing something well away from any Towns.

[CrEaToXx]

Yeah. Do the crime. Shove your horse some cocaine gum, then ride like the wind, preferably not down a hill. So knowing the land helps I guess.

The mod I'm using makes it so the law won't show up out of nowhere, but with a random delay, in much higher numbers, and are way more persistent. If you wear a mask they won't realize it's you for a set amount of time. If you manage to escape in that time frame, you pay no bounty. But if you can't lose them, the wanted meter kicks in and the bounty is applied with an insanely higher amount.

The cool thing about that is, you don't even know you're hunted until Ghengis horde flies in, because there's no spoiling meter right away.

The mod has many more features making the whole law system more logical.