Red Dead Redemption remaster

[pauldiazberrio]

I've completed 20% of the first Red Dead Redemption (or more accurately), the sequel. I can say the game is worth playing, but after playing 2, I do know there are a number of points that might or might not determine if a pc port of the game will ever be released. I'd like to highlight them, if I may, to see if we can discuss whether or not a remaster would be good for us.


Pros

* Exciting gunplay, solid firearm, knife, and hand to hand combat mechanics.

* Relatable characters with either soulful or comedic elements.

* Nice side quests, treasure hunts, and hunting opportunities.

* Expertly crafted landscapes, believable towns and locations. Authentic wild west and period elements.

* Challenging AI and well implemented bodily physics.

Cons

* Poor introduction to John Marston and the Federal agents who are extorting him. On the go motives and reasons make the initial story opaque until the first quarter of the game is reached.

* Limited clothes shop.

* Wrong reloading animations and incorrect ammo load for the single shot rifle.

* Limited greeting system with locals.

This is how I see the game. Please, I'd like to get your feedback and together, voice the public opinion on the need for a remake or to simply bring the vanilla game to the modern pc.

[Nooby McNoobnoob]

honestly would buy it in a second with undead nightmare even if it was just xbox 360 version with nothing extra, loved that game lost a lot of hours, red dead redemption 1 is still what i consder a "game" where as rdr2 feels more like a "sim", neither are worse or better for it but all in all i prefer rdr1 overall, got lots of other games to play.

[Bigfoot Surfer]

RD2 is a most beautiful game

[pauldiazberrio]

Originally posted by Nooby McNoobnoob:

honestly would buy it in a second with undead nightmare even if it was just xbox 360 version with nothing extra, loved that game lost a lot of hours, red dead redemption 1 is still what i consder a "game" where as rdr2 feels more like a "sim", neither are worse or better for it but all in all i prefer rdr1 overall, got lots of other games to play.

I actually passed RDR 1 when it was launched. I bought my PS3 in 2014, but for some reason, I didn't buy the game until 10 years later. I was a consummate PS2 player and played all the greats, but RDR 1 sailed over my head for 14 years after its release. Strange what time can do.

As I see it, RDR 2 is less of a game and more of a re-creation of lives. The events are more realistic in the sense that people interconnect more. The MacFarlane families and John's family are there, but they act as participants in something proactive more than anything else. In 2, they form part of the every day events, have their own scenes and don't necessarily have anything to do with the ongoing events of the game.

I will say RDR1 follows more of a formula and maybe that was good in the sense that it was lighter than 2. In terms of content, barring the absence of food and gun customisation, the first game is more or less even ro the second.

[Bwoah]

IF RDR1 ever comes to PC i think Rockstar will take the safe way of just maybe upgrade the graphics a little cause a remaster is too much work for not alot of gain in their pockets.

[AlphaZeroX96]

Red Dead Revolver should be brought back instead. That game's a lot of fun.

[pauldiazberrio]

Originally posted by Bwoah:

IF RDR1 ever comes to PC i think Rockstar will take the safe way of just maybe upgrade the graphics a little cause a remaster is too much work for not alot of gain in their pockets.

Most likely. I must admit that on my 23.5" monitor, the 1152x640 resolution is well stretched for the cinematics. The in-game graphics are of a lower calibre than the ones in the cut scenes, and I have to squint a title to make out details further away. That is one element that a remaster could correct nicely.

Also, the frame dip when you approach Thieves Landing and other big places could be resolved. I had a bit of a hard time navigating the paths when I came close to the entrance gate.

Originally posted by SaviorAssassin1996:

Red Dead Revolver should be brought back instead. That game's a lot of fun.

Well, seeing as you can emulate it and nobody's illegally selling the PS2 ROM anywhere, I say it's safe to assume Rockstar won't bother remastering RDRLVR. Why invest in a game that's already being offered, free of charge, to players with modern hardware? The free legacy value can free their hands for other projects, and they an still take credit for allowing the websites that offer emulated PS2 games.

[Nooby McNoobnoob]

Originally posted by SaviorAssassin1996:

Red Dead Revolver should be brought back instead. That game's a lot of fun.

loved the deathmatch mode with the unlocked characters.

[Shoah Kahn]

If it had multiplayer and Undead Nightmare content, it'd be a million-seller. RDR2/O is like a work art: looking at it is its alpha and omega. Whereas, RDR is just a fun western game to play.

[pauldiazberrio]

I'm now almost fifty percent of the way through story mode. I can add a few more positive and negative aspects of RDR 1, for those who are interested.

Pros:

Robbing people can be fun. You're awarded many dishonor points, (more than if you kill them).

Gang traps offer you the satisfaction of killing the bandits who try to lure you in with a woman and falsely broken down carriage.

The Mexican revolution missions are challenging and the liberation of the people gives you a sense of purpose.

The movies at the theatres are entertaining and even socially relevant.

Cons:

Blackwater is only accessible after you overthrow the Mexican military dictator in Nuevo Paraiso.

John can't swim. Drowns instantly.

The women in the game either meet tragic ends or are needlessly brutalized.

You get no dishonor points for kidnapping people, or dumping their tied up bodies off cliffs.

You get less dishonor points from killing innocent people.

Some weapons aren't available in the guns stores. Every town has a gun you can't find in another.

Some side quests or rescue scenarios are repeated.