Red Dead Redemption 2

Red Dead Redemption 2

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Ygdrasil5 2023 年 9 月 7 日 下午 5:06
If it was DRM-free, i would buy this game.
...Imagine that
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Vince ✟ 2023 年 9 月 10 日 下午 12:21 
If it didn't have social club I'd consider it. I refuse to use more launchers. Their support is ass and if I lose my email I lose my games.
Darklord 2023 年 9 月 12 日 上午 8:52 
引用自 "MD"
If it didn't have social club I'd consider it. I refuse to use more launchers. Their support is ass and if I lose my email I lose my games.

Exactly my point. Without highly annoying, superduper-DRM SC = INSTABUY.
With = NEVERBUY. But R* NEVER listens.
RageMojo 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 1:30 
But no one cares if you never buy it. Literally.
lukaself 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 5:00 
引用自 RageMojo
But no one cares if you never buy it. Literally.
Paradoxes ain't your strong suit eh?
RageMojo 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 5:19 
引用自 lukaself
引用自 RageMojo
But no one cares if you never buy it. Literally.
Paradoxes ain't your strong suit eh?
Are you sure you understand what a paradox is? This aint one.
lukaself 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 5:27 
引用自 RageMojo
引用自 lukaself
Paradoxes ain't your strong suit eh?
Are you sure you understand what a paradox is? This aint one.
If you don't get it, chances are you won't get the explanation either but I'll try to make a suitable one:

A paradox is a statement or a situation that seems self-contradictory or logically impossible. So, if you tell someone, 'I don't care if you get that thing,' it's strange because you wouldn't talk let alone try to convey your opinion about it if you really didn't care. So, the paradox is that your words don't match how you feel.

Hope you learned something today! :clickbutton:
最後修改者:lukaself; 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 5:36
RageMojo 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 6:42 
引用自 lukaself
引用自 RageMojo
Are you sure you understand what a paradox is? This aint one.
If you don't get it, chances are you won't get the explanation either but I'll try to make a suitable one:

A paradox is a statement or a situation that seems self-contradictory or logically impossible. So, if you tell someone, 'I don't care if you get that thing,' it's strange because you wouldn't talk let alone try to convey your opinion about it if you really didn't care. So, the paradox is that your words don't match how you feel.

Hope you learned something today! :clickbutton:

Ya, no your entire premise is flawed. Me telling him no one cares if he buys it or not, does not denote any measurement of care.

I think your confusing situations where people reply passionately about something. For instance if i was telling him why he should buy it, that perhaps may fit. But what your thinking about is something more akin to me saying i dont care about his opinion then continuing to respond to his opinion. That is not what happened here.

So you need to rethink your failed logic. I find it extra hilarious you think your dropping wisdom and your not even on base.
Chonkems 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 6:53 
Dude, steam is literally a DRM, you make it so obvious you just want to pirate it. It's literally $30 on sale for the deluxe edition.
min3r95 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 7:34 
引用自 Chonkems
Dude, steam is literally a DRM, you make it so obvious you just want to pirate it. It's literally $30 on sale for the deluxe edition.
If your attitude is "You didn't buy the game so you want to pirate" then don't start crying when people start insulting or name-calling you.:LeViada_anger:
Steam does sell DRM-free games, the kind of games that doesn't need a launcher to be launchable? And the Steam DRM is just there for the services to work, compare to the authorization system(DRM) is using which doesn't benefit consumers whatsoever.:LeViada_normal:
Steam is more of a client than a DRM.
最後修改者:min3r95; 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 7:41
Bad 💀 Motha 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 7:48 
Oh if it's on Steam and doesn't use any 3rd party software requirements it's OK but if it does then the game isn't worth buying? You're just a lazy petty PC user is all that's about, nothing more. The game and launcher works fine so I don't get why people say such stupid BS.
min3r95 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 9:43 
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha
Oh if it's on Steam and doesn't use any 3rd party software requirements it's OK but if it does then the game isn't worth buying? You're just a lazy petty PC user is all that's about, nothing more. The game and launcher works fine so I don't get why people say such stupid BS.
Yes it's Ok, because the steam client actually give you services and act like a delivery mechanism more than a copy protection solution, also steam can work in offline mode for an indefinite amount of time, you can just download the games then switch to offline mode and play immediately, so by default it's more tolerable than the DRM that Rockstar use in this game. And it's optional, developers doesn't really need to use it.
Their launcher is one thing, the DRM that they use with this game that turn it into a partially alway-online is another thing, which is terrible and people like OP want it gone.:LeViada_normal:
Your comment is actual pettiness, just like the previous comment that I responded to.:LeViada_anger:
Bad 💀 Motha 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 10:26 
Rockstar has had this sort of DRM ever since GTA4 came out on PC.
It's used for the SocialClub friends services and alike, along with game progress & achievements.
最後修改者:Bad 💀 Motha; 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 10:26
min3r95 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 10:46 
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha
Rockstar has had this sort of DRM ever since GTA4 came out on PC.
It's used for the SocialClub friends services and alike, along with game progress & achievements.
This game have 2 layers of DRM, the forced social club, and the forced online activation that work like Denuvo, forcing 3rd party launcher on a game they released on steam is already ridiculous, the activation only last for some times, the game need to rely on their DRM server to be launchable just like how Denuvo work is even worse.:LeViada_anger:
"Everyone have internet connection" doesn't the DRMs have to work that way.
About the services, steam also have those, but at least the social club does give you something, the online activation just suck.:LeViada_anger:
最後修改者:min3r95; 2023 年 9 月 12 日 下午 11:19
Bad 💀 Motha 2023 年 9 月 13 日 上午 2:01 
Steam is only used for downloading the game when it comes to RDR2...
And there are Steam Achievements.
nothing more.

The launcher is there because Rockstar has their own Online Games Store. So how can they just get rid of the Launcher DRM and such just because the game is on say; EPIC, GOG or STEAM? It still needs that. It was designed to use it from the very beginning before RDR2 was offered on 3rd party game stores/clients.

They even went and updated games like MP3, GTA4, GTA5 to use the same Launcher as well because all those other games had a different "thing" it used as a DRM. GTA4 was basically broken before they updated it to use this Launcher because GTA4 for the longest time required the Games of Windows Client, which died long before Win7 expired. GTA5 used some stand-alone SocialClub login thingy, so this Rockstar Launcher paved the way for them to have a Digital Downloads Games Store (for games like GTA Trilogy) as well as provided a fix for GTA4 so we could play it again, properly on Win10/11

Please stop acting like this is the plague; many of you seem to have no idea or some how forget how the Rockstar Games on PC were before this more modern Launcher DRM.
最後修改者:Bad 💀 Motha; 2023 年 9 月 13 日 上午 2:06
min3r95 2023 年 9 月 13 日 上午 3:09 
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha
Please stop acting like this is the plague; many of you seem to have no idea or some how forget how the Rockstar Games on PC were before this more modern Launcher DRM.
Yes, it's a plague.
Like I said, it's ridiculous to force their own launcher into a game they released on Steam, since Steam is already enough, at least they should give us an option to launch the game without their launcher running. It was ridiculous back then and it still is now.
Another problem with the DRMs in this game is that they're using an machines activation system like Denuvo, the activation can be expired or break under circumstances.
You need to ask for permission to play the game you purchased, that's definitely not OK.
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