WORSE Performance with DLSS Quality mode enabled?

[Mac N Sneeze]

Somehow I lose fps in certain areas when switching from TAA to DLSS quality. I can't find anything online about this issue, does anybody know why this might be the case? My card is an rtx 3060 and I'm running the game at 1440p.

[nothing]

rdr2 after dlss update has been pretty much broken, ur quite lucky to even have the game running with dlss on. mine just crashes on startup until i deleted the settings file so i wouldnt touch dlss, just rely on resolution scaling with more sharpened taa instead

[50Fathoms]

I think a rtx 3060 should handle the game just fine even without DLSS

[laub1725]

I have a 3060 with dlss on quality and the game plays beautifully on 1440p. It actually is playing better with it on than without. I haven't had a single crash this whole playthrough, where when using taa I had multiple crashes on my first playthrough. Better luck for some than others it seems.

[Mac N Sneeze]

Originally posted by nothing:

rdr2 after dlss update has been pretty much broken, ur quite lucky to even have the game running with dlss on. mine just crashes on startup until i deleted the settings file so i wouldnt touch dlss, just rely on resolution scaling with more sharpened taa instead

Thanks for the info. I've been using Nvidia Image Scaling and RDR2 responds really well to it.

[Mac N Sneeze]

Originally posted by laub1725:

I have a 3060 with dlss on quality and the game plays beautifully on 1440p. It actually is playing better with it on than without. I haven't had a single crash this whole playthrough, where when using taa I had multiple crashes on my first playthrough. Better luck for some than others it seems.

What's your CPU? and do you have the latest drivers?

[laub1725]

I5 11600k and yes latest driver

[Bad 💀 Motha]

What helps it run so smooth? I'll tell you...
32GB of RAM
OS + Steam + Rockstar stuff on one SSD
Games on another SSD
PageFile set manually to 8GB min / 32GB max

To be honest though, the latest Drivers are terrible; try a DDU wipe of those and give an older driver such as 511.xx or 512.xx a try instead. If you install GFE, set this to "Check for updates only" so it does not auto update the driver.

Another with is that this game is it comes with a highly outdated DLSS file. Use "DLSS swapper" and try a more updated DLL for the DLSS.

[Mac N Sneeze]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

What helps it run so smooth? I'll tell you...
32GB of RAM
OS + Steam + Rockstar stuff on one SSD
Games on another SSD
PageFile set manually to 8GB min / 32GB max

To be honest though, the latest Drivers are terrible; try a DDU wipe of those and give an older driver such as 511.xx or 512.xx a try instead. If you install GFE, set this to "Check for updates only" so it does not auto update the driver.

Another with is that this game is it comes with a highly outdated DLSS file. Use "DLSS swapper" and try a more updated DLL for the DLSS.

I appreciate the in depth response, I'll give all that a try.

[laub1725]

Originally posted by Mac N' Sneeze:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

What helps it run so smooth? I'll tell you...
32GB of RAM
OS + Steam + Rockstar stuff on one SSD
Games on another SSD
PageFile set manually to 8GB min / 32GB max

To be honest though, the latest Drivers are terrible; try a DDU wipe of those and give an older driver such as 511.xx or 512.xx a try instead. If you install GFE, set this to "Check for updates only" so it does not auto update the driver.

Another with is that this game is it comes with a highly outdated DLSS file. Use "DLSS swapper" and try a more updated DLL for the DLSS.

I appreciate the in depth response, I'll give all that a try.

32GB RAM probably does help since I have it, plus a clean install using DDU before the latest driver also seemed to do the trick. Haven't tried DLSS swapper, but if I run into problems suddenly just might try that out. Fortunately everything is running smoothly and steady at 60 fps.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

I use the DDU method every time I change gpu driver. Been doing that since the days of later days of WinXP. It avoids many issues associated with gpu drivers.

[Triple G]

Just looked it up and DLSS just means that the game is rendered with a lower resolution and then upscaled to the demanded resolution? As an AMD user i have to add that it works fine if You just use the demanded resolution if it´s 1440p.

But yes - usually it should run better with DLSS, because the game is rendered in an inferior resolution before being upscaled. Perhaps helpful if You want to play the game in 4k, because You bought a monitor which You graphics card can´t handle. At least DLSS is no quality setting, more a performance setting. One could think otherwise when reading some posts or threads here.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

DLSS has always been a performance setting. That's the point of it. To run games at maybe 1440p or 2160p, with DLSS enabled and proper GPU to handle it, it helps retain a decent FPS average at that higher resolution. Some speak about quality because with DLSS enabled and working there is a quality range setting for it. Like any form of scaling or anti-aliasing option would have.

[Mac N Sneeze]

Originally posted by Triple G:

Just looked it up and DLSS just means that the game is rendered with a lower resolution and then upscaled to the demanded resolution? As an AMD user i have to add that it works fine if You just use the demanded resolution if it´s 1440p.

But yes - usually it should run better with DLSS, because the game is rendered in an inferior resolution before being upscaled. Perhaps helpful if You want to play the game in 4k, because You bought a monitor which You graphics card can´t handle. At least DLSS is no quality setting, more a performance setting. One could think otherwise when reading some posts or threads here.

Well the reason you keep seeing people refer to it as a quality option is that TAA integration is subpar in RDR2, so I was hoping to use DLSS to crispen up the image and provide anti-aliasing while also avoiding the blurriness of TAA. The performance uplift would be a bonus for me, but like I said DLSS lowers performance for me so I stick with TAA.

[PlayerHashim]

Originally posted by Fifty Fathoms:

I think a rtx 3060 should handle the game just fine even without DLSS

Mine rtx 4070 sucks in rdr2

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by PlayerHashim:

Originally posted by Fifty Fathoms:

I think a rtx 3060 should handle the game just fine even without DLSS

Mine rtx 4070 sucks in rdr2

RDR2 has a bug where upon launch even with DLSS / FSR you still have TAA enabled. There is also a game engine bug if you set DLSS or FSR to another other then Quality or Performance.

First what helps is just go delete the system.xml and then run the game to recreate that again with default settings and go from there.

You also want to use DLSS Updater and have it update the DLSS DLL file to later one then what Rockstar provided in the game files. Once thag is done you can use NVIDIA APP and for RDR2 over-ride the DLSS and it should provide you with DLSS 4.x