Bought a sniper rifle

[Kuro]

I bought a sniper rifle before I got one from the quest. FeelsBadMan

[JuiceWSA]

How many Cougars have eaten you while you try to find it at your feet in that scope?

A Springfield would have been more useful, but now you even get another Rolling Block when you pick up the 'Rare' one.

Soon enough you'll be salivating over the Bolt Action and Carcano - two more useless pieces of crap.

Note:
Take an Improved Arrow out when you see that Moose (IF you see that Moose). The shocking disappointment of a Bolt or Carcano Bullet Bouncing off the Skull of your Perfect Moose will bring your Perfect Day to a screeching halt.

Enjoy.

[Porkhammer]

The Carcano is far from useless. And, if you use high velocity ammo to take down moose or other big game, there will be no bullets bouncing off. Guaranteed one shot kill.

Granted, same goes for the Springfield and Rolling Block. I do not use the Bolt action, personally.

[JuiceWSA]

Originally posted by Porkhammer:

The Carcano is far from useless. And, if you use high velocity ammo to take down moose or other big game, there will be no bullets bouncing off. Guaranteed one shot kill.

Granted, same goes for the Springfield and Rolling Block. I do not use the Bolt action, personally.

I dropped a dozen Cow Moose on Heartland Overflow<---they look so Natural There.
Many Moose were ruined with Carcano and Bolt - when they got up and ran away or lay there suffering.

0 Moose were left standing or suffering with an Improved Arrow, or Springfield Express (from a 'reasonable' distance).

That's all the 'testing' I needed.

Hot Tip:
When Hunting Moose in this game - you'd better bring your A Game.
You may not get many of those chances.

[DargonBlak]

I get the Springfield for free at the beginning of the story ( Ch 2 from snake bite dude)

I like the option of skipping the scope to deal with cougars and wolves that get too close - bow stops being useful after dead eye upgrades a couple slots.

I prefer the bolt action since it holds 5 shots which helps immensely with Legendary animals.

I dislike any long scoped rifle (that doesn't allow me to not use the scope).

There are a couple occasions when the Caracano works well - legendary animals being a good example - but for most multi-shot killing, i always opt for a Repeater with High Velocity ammo

[JuiceWSA]

Originally posted by DargonBlak:

bow stops being useful after dead eye upgrades a couple slots.

I've heard many ridiculous statements - that one ranks right up near the top...lol
(Stealth and Hunting go together like Coffee and Donuts):

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2674035840
(would be a shame to scare off that possible Moose with a gatling gun battle with Cougars right over the hill - I'm tagging them out with a regular arrow on "5 Cougar Day").

I long for an Improved Arrow Online - where there are none - and every Elk/Moose I shoot with a Rolling Block Express (and misses THE EYEBALL) either bounces off or it lays there suffering.

[Porkhammer]

Originally posted by JuiceWSA:

I dropped a dozen Cow Moose on Heartland Overflow<---they look so Natural There.
Many Moose were ruined with Carcano and Bolt - when they got up and ran away or lay there suffering.

Brain or heart guarantees a oneshot kill. The only reason their pelts would be ruined is if you miss these spots. I'll be more than happy to record examples if you don't believe me.

[JuiceWSA]

Originally posted by Porkhammer:

Originally posted by JuiceWSA:

I dropped a dozen Cow Moose on Heartland Overflow<---they look so Natural There.
Many Moose were ruined with Carcano and Bolt - when they got up and ran away or lay there suffering.

Brain or heart guarantees a oneshot kill. The only reason their pelts would be ruined is if you miss these spots. I'll be more than happy to record examples if you don't believe me.

You post whatever you want to. It won't matter to me in the least.

My thorough testing is complete. I found out what I needed to know and I'll react accordingly.

[DargonBlak]

Originally posted by JuiceWSA:

Originally posted by DargonBlak:

bow stops being useful after dead eye upgrades a couple slots.

I've heard many ridiculous statements - that one ranks right up near the top...lol
(Stealth and Hunting go together like Coffee and Donuts):

Well, it is a simple truth from my perspective - and i suppose it's fine for others to find my truths ridiculous ;)

Allow me to elucidate (to eschew obfuscation)

There is a point in dead eye, early in game, when you can sweep a weapon past a target and the weapon will Always hit once fired (or released).

During this time, the Bow works just as well as the Rifle - it's auto-hit, like fire and forget.

Also, killing multiple birds with varmint rifle is extremely easy - just sweep through the birds, get lots of red "X"s, and pull the trigger (blam-blam-blam-blam... automatic hits)

However, after dead eye upgrades, this "auto-hit" feature goes away, and the bow becomes problematic if the target is moving - thus i switch to a rifle. I am moving on my horse, the prey is moving, i'm aiming to lead the prey at an intersection point, and tap red-eye a moment and Blam - dinner is served.

I've tried this with bow, but the rifle is more reliable (for me), since the projectile travels faster. Never mind that once i have the bolt action, i can take down 3 deer in a single red eye, and the camp is fed.

Sure, the Bow is more elegant, but this is the age of the rifle, and the bow just seems silly ;)

[Porkhammer]

Originally posted by JuiceWSA:

Originally posted by Porkhammer:

Brain or heart guarantees a oneshot kill. The only reason their pelts would be ruined is if you miss these spots. I'll be more than happy to record examples if you don't believe me.

You post whatever you want to. It won't matter to me in the least.

My thorough testing is complete. I found out what I needed to know and I'll react accordingly.

I mean yeah sure, if you are content with doing things wrong and be convinced it's correct, that's up to you. :) Each to their own.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Moose and Adult Elk have very large & thick antlers; when you shoot them, use Carcano or Springfield + Express Ammo. The higher damage is generally needed in order to take these down properly. If they have they head down, get close enough to CALL them, soon as you do and they lift their head up, get them in the face (like eye, nose, jaw areas) if you some how hit their antlers, the antlers will take most of the damage and often times knock the pelt/corpse down 1 star. So be sure that you actually hit them in an area of the head/face where you won't end up hitting any part of the antlers.

High Velocity rounds are more for if the animal is facing away from you and you still need to hit it around the heart area. The high velocity round can go clean through without messing up the pelt enough to bring it down 1 star.

If you can hit it in the face or head, then you don't need High Velocity, you need the extra damage just to ensure it's taken down in a single shot.

Keep your guns clean; try not to let the wear & tear drop below 75% for good hunting purposes. When you are fighting NPCs, then this is not a big deal if you can land head shots. You can find Gun Oil all around the game map for free.

[JuiceWSA]

Originally posted by DargonBlak:

Well, it is a simple truth from my perspective - and i suppose it's fine for others to find my truths ridiculous ;)

There is a point in dead eye, early in game, when you can sweep a weapon past a target and the weapon will Always hit once fired (or released).

During this time, the Bow works just as well as the Rifle - it's auto-hit, like fire and forget.

Correction - during that time nothing works - except marking what you didn't want to mark with automark. Dead Eye Master 1.5 removes that from the equation in it's entirety. My first Dead Eye Shot is Level 4 Manual Marking and the bow is just as lethal as any other weapon in my possession. Moreso when it drops a Massive Animal shot in the head INSTANTLY - and if that's a Moose... lucky me.

https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/232

Also, killing multiple birds with varmint rifle is extremely easy - just sweep through the birds, get lots of red "X"s, and pull the trigger (blam-blam-blam-blam... automatic hits)

I just took out an entire covey of Quail with small game arrows and their little bodies were all in a line no more than 10 feet long, all about a foot apart as the horse walked, herding them like sheep: Thwack, Thwack, Thwack, Thwack, Thwack... 5 little Quail all in a row.

Sure, wiping out a flock of Songbirds is easy with the Varmint - and handy when it's "Donate 20 Animals to Cripps in 10 Minutes" day. Quail are no good for that. 10 fills the Mat Bar to Max and then I can't donate the other 10 for at least 30 minutes...lol

However, after dead eye upgrades, this "auto-hit" feature goes away, and the bow becomes problematic if the target is moving - thus i switch to a rifle. I am moving on my horse, the prey is moving, i'm aiming to lead the prey at an intersection point, and tap red-eye a moment and Blam - dinner is served.

Well, I'm "Hunting" - not mowing down animals fleeing from a galloping horse in panicked terror. Apart from the aforementioned Quail (that is usually done on horseback), most of the animals I shoot with the bow aren't moving. I've either stalked them into position, put my position where it'll do the most good, baited them where I wanted them, or lucked onto them while walking the horse somewhere.

I've tried this with bow, but the rifle is more reliable (for me), since the projectile travels faster. Never mind that once i have the bolt action, i can take down 3 deer in a single red eye, and the camp is fed.

On the day I can't drop 3 Perfect Deer standing in a bunch with 3 snap-shot regular arrows - is the day I've gotten too old to hunt. I can have 2 in the air inbound and aiming the 3rd in Dead Eye when the first animal drops.

I mean, we have a Time Machine (In Story Mode)! Hit the button, slow down time - what's the issue?...lol

When the Turk gets up on it's back legs surround by Wolves - my regular arrows are just as quick and deadly as anything else. I can open a hole for our escape - or load the wagon with Big Game. Depends what day it is.

Sure, the Bow is more elegant, but this is the age of the rifle, and the bow just seems silly ;)

You had the word right the first time - Elegant - not Silly.
Deadly is another word I'd use.

The Bow does require more patience, practice and a slightly different skill set. I realize for many it's not as much fun as a machine gun, but I do enjoy using it to it's full potential.

When ambushed by Humans - I always get 6 Perfect Pelts with my Cattleman, then 9 more with the LeMat (less than Perfect considering Express Explosives in the LeMat have taken their heads clean off) and if anyone is left standing when I grab the Cattleman again the game has reloaded it for me<---and no dead Automarked horses either.

:)