GPU not running at full Utilization

[Nasedo]

Hey guys!

my GPU isn't running at full utilization, normally sits around 60% to 70% at 100W while my CPU is sitting at 50% to 60% at 40W to 50W

Many videos online that I've watched always has those players around 99% GPU at 140W to 220W (depending on the GPU Card) and around 20 to 30% CPU
What am I doing wrong?

Am I having performance issues? not so much but I feel like my FPS could be higher (sitting around 60FPS to 80FPS depending on the area I'm at), there are some stuttering in a few spots but I think its just Rockstar's lack of optimization.

Settings are mostly on Ultra using the Hardware unboxing recommended settings.

I play at 1080P 144H
Alienware M17-R4 Laptop
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10870H CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.21 GHz
RAM 16.0 GB
RTX 3070 Mobile 8GB Ram

[MAXE]

Check your pc for adaware/malware and use a firewall that can control your programs .. turn off all the stuff that got something with "share" in it on your computer !

helps alot to avoid share resources on your system with other people online ..

your laptop should run this game with atleast 100 fps all the time ..

btw how fast is your ram ?

if you are able to get the ram to around 3200 mhz .. then that will improve the game performance alot, allso remember to put reflex on + booster + DLLS on quality ..

And you should clear out your cache aswell on the system if it dont do it automatic .. otherwice programs could use resources that Rdr2 would otherwice need ..

run the latest gaming drivers

[Professional47]

sad

[camouflage]

Well, in my experience with similar hardware (Mine is MSI GE66/RTX3070 130W/i7-10870H), usually there is a problem with MUX Switch. The solution for my hardware is to switch to "Discrete Graphics Mode" when using laptop monitor, and "MSHybrid Graphics Mode" when using external monitor. If the aforementioned workaround doesnt works, then maybe its just how fast your CPU can accomodate.

[ant_sh]

Your CPU is probably overheating. Try undervolting with ThrottleStop.

[Nasedo]

M-A-X-E ™ lähetti viestin:

Check your pc for adaware/malware and use a firewall that can control your programs .. turn off all the stuff that got something with "share" in it on your computer !

helps alot to avoid share resources on your system with other people online ..

your laptop should run this game with atleast 100 fps all the time ..

btw how fast is your ram ?

if you are able to get the ram to around 3200 mhz .. then that will improve the game performance alot, allso remember to put reflex on + booster + DLLS on quality ..

And you should clear out your cache aswell on the system if it dont do it automatic .. otherwice programs could use resources that Rdr2 would otherwice need ..

run the latest gaming drivers

I use AVG for my firewall and RDR2 allowed for past though, I check for virus's every few days with zero infections and I keep it updated, I also use AVG tuner to put app's that are not in use sleep.

Turn off all the stuff with share? where is that at?

Ram speed 16 GB at 2933 MHZ

Relex on? and booster? what are these? I do have DLSS 2.4.12 installed,

Normally I use Cleanup tool to rip out all traces of the driver before installed the newer updates.

[Nasedo]

camouflage lähetti viestin:

Well, in my experience with similar hardware (Mine is MSI GE66/RTX3070 130W/i7-10870H), usually there is a problem with MUX Switch. The solution for my hardware is to switch to "Discrete Graphics Mode" when using laptop monitor, and "MSHybrid Graphics Mode" when using external monitor. If the aforementioned workaround doesnt works, then maybe its just how fast your CPU can accomodate.

MUX Switch? whats that? Discrete Graphics Mode?

I only just use the laptop monitor.

[Nasedo]

ant_sh lähetti viestin:

Your CPU is probably overheating. Try undervolting with ThrottleStop.

is that normally a common problem gaming in RDR2? is it safe to undervolt?

[ant_sh]

Nasedo lähetti viestin:

ant_sh lähetti viestin:

Your CPU is probably overheating. Try undervolting with ThrottleStop.

is that normally a common problem gaming in RDR2? is it safe to undervolt?

It is pretty common for gaming on laptops in general. It is safe if you read the guide, understand the concepts and monitor your voltages, temperatures and clocks.

[Rockhopper]

ant_sh lähetti viestin:

Your CPU is probably overheating. Try undervolting with ThrottleStop.

This. I have an Alienware 17M, about three years old now. It is not intuitive, but undervolting and underclocking vastly improved performance by stopping the pointless power throttling.

Nasedo, you asked is it safe. Yes, but you need to find the sweet spot of where your CPU needs to be. For instance, using Throttlestop my "Turbo Ratio Limits" are stock 41, and I lowered that to 30, which is the underclock. Then I found that -125mV works best for undervolting.

I also do the same with the GPU, an nVidia RTX 2070. Using MSI Afterburner I made a flat 693mV curve which locks the clock at 1290MHz and memory at 6000MHz. No GPU throttling at all now.

Again, seems unintuitive, but the fact is that both the CPU and GPU are constantly and needlessly throttling your performance while gaming. Lowering voltage and frequency lowers the strain and actually helps by keeping you out of the throttling range.

My guess is that marketing drives this. CPU and GPU manufacturers can brag about their performance, but they don't tell you that to do so they'll have to be power throttled, which ends up killing performance anyways. But then most gamers would never notice, unless you're running something like Rivatuner with an on-screen display that will show you when the throttling occurs.

[Nasedo]

Rockhopper lähetti viestin:

ant_sh lähetti viestin:

Your CPU is probably overheating. Try undervolting with ThrottleStop.

This. I have an Alienware 17M, about three years old now. It is not intuitive, but undervolting and underclocking vastly improved performance by stopping the pointless power throttling.

Nasedo, you asked is it safe. Yes, but you need to find the sweet spot of where your CPU needs to be. For instance, using Throttlestop my "Turbo Ratio Limits" are stock 41, and I lowered that to 30, which is the underclock. Then I found that -125mV works best for undervolting.

I also do the same with the GPU, an nVidia RTX 2070. Using MSI Afterburner I made a flat 693mV curve which locks the clock at 1290MHz and memory at 6000MHz. No GPU throttling at all now.

Again, seems unintuitive, but the fact is that both the CPU and GPU are constantly and needlessly throttling your performance while gaming. Lowering voltage and frequency lowers the strain and actually helps by keeping you out of the throttling range.

My guess is that marketing drives this. CPU and GPU manufacturers can brag about their performance, but they don't tell you that to do so they'll have to be power throttled, which ends up killing performance anyways. But then most gamers would never notice, unless you're running something like Rivatuner with an on-screen display that will show you when the throttling occurs.

is there a guided to fine the sweet spot for each CPU and GPU, how hard is it to undervolt?

I'm little confused, you use less power and the performances goes up?

[Rockhopper]

There are videos on Youtube that walk you through the process. Once you get generally set up with Throttlestop it is then just a matter of trial and error. I found that -125mV works for me. Any more than that and I start getting unstable.

Correct, LESS voltage and frequency often INCREASES performance. The problem is POWER and/or HEAT THROTTLING. Generally it goes like this (I am going to make up numbers just for the sake of explanation... the actual numbers vary by your CPU, your cooling solution, your BIOS, etc). Let's say you push the CPU to near max 100% utilization. At some point, maybe around 95%, the system may actually THROTTLE back performance to say 75% to cool the CPU down. If you are watching in real time using something RivaTuner you will see something like POWER flashing, telling you that the throttling is occurring. Thus, at full voltage, you LOSE performance.

Now, lower the voltage, and you ease the load on the CPU. The trick is to find that sweet spot where you can lower voltage, but maintain the same (or similar) performance. So I undervolt mine by -125mV. Performance is slightly lowered (say, from 95% to 93%) but now the throttling that would normally take it back to 75% NEVER happens. Make sense? Max voltage and you drop to 75%. Slight undervolt and I drop to 93%. That is a win.

[Nasedo]

I would like to find other ways to try and fix this, if I cant i'll try to reduce voltage.

does anyone else have any other recommendations?

[Smask]

Nasedo lähetti viestin:

I would like to find other ways to try and fix this, if I cant i'll try to reduce voltage.

does anyone else have any other recommendations?

Why the worry, less Gpu usage means less heat, thus less agro, and indicates you can run higher spec than what you are..

[Nasedo]

OK so I undervolt my CPU so it doesn't get too hot and there wasn't any difference in performance, GPU was siting around 50's to 70's still and FPS was lowered.

Does anyone have any other idea's on how to fix this low GPU Utilization?

[ant_sh]

Nasedo lähetti viestin:

Does anyone have any other idea's on how to fix this low GPU Utilization?

Try another driver after DDU. Experiment with resolution scale or DSR, sometimes using higher than native resolution may force the GPU utilization.