It wasnt Micah. Abigail was the RAT of RDR 2.

[Yo]

Abigail was ambitious woman who wanted to leave a peaceful life with John and Jack. She never wanted to be part of gang bs and wanted to do to Tahiti or etc. You can see her desire to be real family mother and leave all these gang member out in many random gang conversations.

She was an outlaw but he wanted her son to be lawyer. To do that she needs to leave all the criminals and make the room for her kids to grow in a safe environment. If you know about Abigail origins then you will know she was thief and pros brought by uncle in the gang and literally abused by everyone. She hated all of them and She didn't made a single donation to the gang from chapter 1-6. You can check the gang contributes and will never see Abigail donate 1 cent to the ledger book. Instead contributing for the gang's funding she instead decided to steal others money in Chapter 6..

She later become abuser herself and always rant on John by calling him useless, idiot etc and that made John escape the gang for 1 year. It been told in the beginning of 2nd chapter in the bear hunting Mission.

-Abigail can be spotted Arguing with John about some unknown argument frequenly in the camp. Maybe she was trying to convince John to escape and Since John was loyal man, She could never made him convinced him. The only option was left to rat out the gang as an exchange of Her family immunity.


- Abigail Knew Arthur was the pillar who was holding the gang together. So she made Arthur to go fishing with Jack where Pinkerton agent tried to Offer him immunity as an exchange for Dutch Van der linde. Which He refused. My point is Abigail set the up the meeting with pinkerton agent by sending Arthur alone in the fishing spot so Pinkerton try to buy him off like he already did to abigail.

- In the 2nd train robbery there was no micah and he was locked up in strawberry jail, Still the heist was set up and Lawman show up way faster than it should. The heist was orchestrated by John Marston and It was first time he tried to be mastermind of something. Even Arthur was surprised. Until it turn out to be setup and only guys present here was Arthur, John, Sean and Charles.

- In the saint denis Bank Robbery, Abigail somehow escaped but Hoses didn't. Who told Pinkerton about the bank robbery? Not micah, cause he was present in the robbery. Why risk his own life in the shoot out where you have pre knowledge about the pinkerton interfaces? Cause he didn't. The same bank robbery John was captured alive and intended to be safe in the jail until Dutch dies and He will be out of the Prison to reunion with Abigail again. That's what Abigail wanted. Gang dies in shoot out but John captured alive ( why ? ). Cause Abigail never wanted any harm to John.

- How Abigail somehow got vanished from Camp and End up in Pinkertons Captivity? Abigail intentionally made Pinkerton agents arrest her as an agreement so She knew Arthur and Sadie will come for resque, and that's the perfect time to spout Micah's name so Arthur gonna easily buy it. Pinkterton agent did the same as planned and Arthur as expected believed it, Then Abigail killed off Pinkerton agent so truth dies with him. It was final plan that worked and destroyed the gang completely.

- Abigail also stole the key and wanted to steal all the gang money before pinkertons arrives and She can start solid with John with load of cash. What more evidence do you want?

She was the one playing games and end up as victories. RDR 2 was about how People are becoming more self centered and civilized and Gangs like Dutch are becoming a thing of past. The betrayal of Abigail to destroy the gang and set up his own life for peace is perfectly suit the theme of the game.

[Yo]

Roon72님이 먼저 게시:

The theory that Abigail was the rat and not Micah is a great theory! It certainly has ramifications that affect the events in the first game. Imagine Abigail doing this so she could have her happy ever after only to see it blow up in her face when it leads to her husband's violent death. As you know when you take control of Jack Abigail is dead, possibly self deletion.

karma you call it

[Arthur Morgan]

OMG man, this really makes sense, all the things you said are true and compelling. Damn I've just turned from hating Micah into hating Abigail... What a woman.

[Elite:Harmless]

I'm not going to spoil too much but there's a squirrel statue mission in the game that took me damn 2 years to finally completed(thx to a youtube video I watched recently) because it keep disappear in the house but In the end, it was theorized that also Abigail's doing too.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Elite:Harmless님이 먼저 게시:

I'm not going to spoil too much but there's a squirrel statue mission in the game that took me damn 2 years to finally completed(thx to a youtube video I watched recently) because it keep disappear in the house but In the end, it was theorized that also Abigail's doing too.

Can you blame her? WTF wants a stuffed squirrel staring at the dinner table.

[HRRoach]

The game literally tells you it was micah. Every time the pinkertons show up or knew ahead of time, Micah was not there. He conveniently was off somewhere else. Milton didn't lie. The missions micah was helpful with were only to bury himself deep in the gang. He was only with dutch a few months before surpassing you as dutches 2nd. He didn't have true loyalty as he told you he was only loyal to survival. He was there to cause doubt in dutches mind about you and separate everyone from dutch, dutch was the one they wanted. Be wary of one that advances past 30 years of loyalty in just 3 months. Abigal was only guilty of an affair with the doctor in strawberry and wanting a safe place to raise jack who never was John's son. How do you think she bought john new fancy clothes? never saw john give her money.

[Elite:Harmless]

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

Elite:Harmless님이 먼저 게시:

I'm not going to spoil too much but there's a squirrel statue mission in the game that took me damn 2 years to finally completed(thx to a youtube video I watched recently) because it keep disappear in the house but In the end, it was theorized that also Abigail's doing too.

Can you blame her? WTF wants a stuffed squirrel staring at the dinner table.

It's ART !!

[PAPI_BIGDADDY]

My understanding is that Micah turns AFTER the group returns from Guarma, everything before then is "just bad luck".

[HRRoach]

I think he sent the pinkertons while you were fishing with jack, if you remember he was locked up in strawberry... He thought he was about to hang and spilled before you save him.
Miltons words was "it was micah the whole time".

I mean micah in jail, then pinkertons show up, no it was him, the rat 100%

[Yo]

Elite:Harmless님이 먼저 게시:

I'm not going to spoil too much but there's a squirrel statue mission in the game that took me damn 2 years to finally completed(thx to a youtube video I watched recently) because it keep disappear in the house but In the end, it was theorized that also Abigail's doing too.

You can only get the Squirrel Statue with John if you complete the Achievement the ART ( which is anagram of RAT). You place in the cornerstone of house which was built by ratting out Gang members and sell out your soul. Maybe rockstar telling something ?

[Elite:Harmless]

Valarante Child님이 먼저 게시:

Elite:Harmless님이 먼저 게시:

I'm not going to spoil too much but there's a squirrel statue mission in the game that took me damn 2 years to finally completed(thx to a youtube video I watched recently) because it keep disappear in the house but In the end, it was theorized that also Abigail's doing too.

You can only get the Squirrel Statue with John if you complete the Achievement the ART ( which is anagram of RAT). You place in the cornerstone of house which was built by ratting out Gang members and sell out your soul. Maybe rockstar telling something ?

Cough cough....

[masterthespian]

If I had to guess, there was more than one rat. Or perhaps rock -star planned to make Abigail the rat but switched it to Micah but left a lot of the content in as it was very vague

[Bad 💀 Motha]

masterthespian님이 먼저 게시:

If I had to guess, there was more than one rat. Or perhaps rock -star planned to make Abigail the rat but switched it to Micah but left a lot of the content in as it was very vague

I believe it was all done on purpose to keep players guessing. The story pushes it all towards Micah but really, there could have been others that contributed. Any way you put it, it doesn't take Micah off the hook. He was very deceptive the entire game. There were also plenty of times Micah was away from camp but we wasn't bringing back money, supplies or fresh game for the camp. So it's anyone's guess what he was up to and I believe it all started long before we end up in Guarma.

[onanonehand8]

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

masterthespian님이 먼저 게시:

If I had to guess, there was more than one rat. Or perhaps rock -star planned to make Abigail the rat but switched it to Micah but left a lot of the content in as it was very vague

I believe it was all done on purpose to keep players guessing. The story pushes it all towards Micah but really, there could have been others that contributed. Any way you put it, it doesn't take Micah off the hook. He was very deceptive the entire game. There were also plenty of times Micah was away from camp but we wasn't bringing back money, supplies or fresh game for the camp. So it's anyone's guess what he was up to and I believe it all started long before we end up in Guarma.

Bill was stupid and gave information at every turn. Micah was petty and vindictive with no concern for anyone. Abigail certainly wanted out at almost any cost not involving her son or herself. So yeah any of them, but mostly some part of all three.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

I removed my headset and just face palmed during first playthrough when we get back from Guarma and meet up with Sadie and then when Bill comes in... "I've had to ask around everywhere finally someone said you all were here"

I'm like WTF Bill... sure enough here come the Pinkertons. What a surprise.

After we get through that, if that was real Bill would have gotten a Club Beatdown if you know what I mean.

[Mítia]

Some people just love MIcah so much...