The Best Way to Start the Game Over

[jswarpaint]

Let's say you want to redo the game and ya want to be able to just go freestyle around the map before ya get into doing the story line. The key is you need a horse the other key is the horse you get at the beginning the game takes from you it ALSO and more importantly takes ANY horse you acquire before you do the Hosea Bear Hunt.

So therefore, do not acquire any horse you like before the Hosea Bear Hunt or you will loose it. Once you do the Hosea Bear Hunt - this is the one where you go to the Stables in Valentine on the way to the bear hunt and the Stable Stores open up .... What happens is you can sell the Horse Hosea gives you and you can buy an new one or keep the horse whatever horse or horses you have they vaporize and are gone.

so this is the thing to do ... Get through the Grizzly Area thing that occurs first this area you are basically stuck there if you leave you freeze to death. So then you end up in Horseshoe Overlook this is where you drive the wagon to the first camp. You can save the game at grizzly then you can save it again when you finally get to horseshoe overlook ...

At horseshoe forget shaving, picking clothes, doing chores do all that stuff later just do the UNCLE mission where you go into town.. to the General Store .. once you do this mission it opens up the Hosea Mission ....

Do the Hosea Mission this allows you to now use stables and you get the grate for the fire and now your all set up to do anything you want in the order you want it .. you can explore all over the map acquire and sell horses keep your horse you have now .. for the entire game etc. So save the game after the Hosea Bear hunt and never overwrite it ..

This way you can start from this point again and be a thug outlaw pillaging the entire map or you can do something more quiet. And you can do the missions when you want the Story and explore and acquire guns and stuff whatever ...

[jswarpaint]

Also as your doing these two missions kill some animal and give it to the Butcher in camp this opens up a Trapper and your all set....

[Kizzie]

Thanks for this js great work -did it take you much testing and dying to find out?

[onanonehand8]

To each their own. For me, there is no rush to get a new horse. Your first horse is fine. The first things to accomplish are: 1- go to the burnt area east of Lympany and find the chest in the wreckage, at that point a cougar can be heard, go to it and use your bow to kill it and skin a perfect cougar pelt. 2- then head to Lympany and find the gold bar. Give cougar pelt and carcass to Pearson. Then head to Rhodes get the Lancaster repeater, and find the fence.

However, before all that, in the first chapter, after capturing Keiran, before returning to Colter, head to Cairn lake and get the treasure map in the shed. Then return to Colter and continue.

All that said, however you choose to play and explore, it will be a fun time.

[JuiceWSA]

Originally posted by Neru:

Why bother? You'll get a free one eventually fom Micah after getting him out of Strawberry jail, Chapter 2 and fence is unlocked after the stagecoach robbery with Hosea in Emerald Ranch.

You actually have to wait for Micah to plan the Strawberry Stagecoach Robbery. He gives you that Lancaster - then if you have one already - you now have TWO.

I don't really need a Lancaster and I sure as HELL don't need 2 of them. Like that White Arabian <---I don't need ANY Arabian and the White one is a beotch to keep clean (without a brush at that point - no thank you). I steal, bond and sell the one in St. Denis and if I'm ever around Owanjilla I do the same with the Red Chestnut (beautiful - but still an Arabian).

Also - there's a little bug when using a common start point. Before you know it you have 5 legendary Animals at the Trapper 'cause you're perpetually on one playthru.

Chapter one is short.
When I start over I start at Chapter one.
Most folks do.

[DargonBlak]

Originally posted by jswarpaint:

So therefore, do not acquire any horse you like before the Hosea Bear Hunt or you will loose it. ... whatever horse or horses you have they vaporize and are gone.

This is simply Not True.

Prior to unlocking stables, you can freely add a spare horse, and your spare horse will still remain in camp, provided you leave them there when you go Bear Hunting with Hosea.

I have not tested replacing the initial Tennessee Walker (by getting multiple new horses), but your Tennessee Walker (original main horse) normally just gets put into the Stable (auto-magically) when you ride Hosea's big Shire and sell him at the Stable

So, i sometimes have 2 horses when i start Hosea's Bear Hunt, and i always still have them both after Hunting with Hosea (one in Stable, one in Camp) - i don't lose them, ever.

Originally posted by jswarpaint:

... just do the UNCLE mission where you go into town.. to the General Store .. once you do this mission it opens up the Hosea Mission ....

The Reverend Swanson mission will also unlock Hosea's Bear Hunt Mission.

Originally posted by jswarpaint:

Do the Hosea Mission this allows you to now use stables and you get the grate for the fire and now your all set up to do anything you want in the order you want it .. you can explore all over the map acquire and sell horses keep your horse you have now .. for the entire game etc. So save the game after the Hosea Bear hunt and never overwrite it ..

Yes, this is a good save point.

Although, with Hosea's Bear Hunt completed, if you now hang around in the Camp after 2PM, Ms. Grimshaw will approach you and tell you to meet Hosea at Emerald Ranch - and this Hosea quest unlocks the Fence. (Ms. Grimshaw is a bit buggy, and sometimes needs a reload to kick it off).

And once you unlock the Fence at Emerald Ranch, that is another good save point. (and more realistic than cheesing the game by riding to Rhodes).

[DargonBlak]

Originally posted by JuiceWSA:

I don't really need a Lancaster and I sure as HELL don't need 2 of them. Like that White Arabian <---I don't need ANY Arabian and the White one is a beotch to keep clean (without a brush at that point - no thank you). I steal, bond and sell the one in St. Denis and if I'm ever around Owanjilla I do the same with the Red Chestnut (beautiful - but still an Arabian).

Completely agree - no need to cheese the game by getting weapons/horses/gold early - and there is Never a need to obtain the Arabian Horse - ANY horse will do well through the entire game - never mind that the Arabians are the size of "My Little Pony" - they're just missing rainbows.

Originally posted by JuiceWSA:

Chapter one is short.
When I start over I start at Chapter one.
Most folks do.

I was encountering very buggy behavior by using a "Start of Chapter 2" game save - i then switched to a "mid-chapter 1" game save and noticed a difference in gameplay.

Now, i simply restart from the beginning - You are Right - it's quick and simple, and ensures any game save/database changes made by R* are captured properly.

[JuiceWSA]

"My Little Pony" (lol) - yea, when I'm bonding one to sell - it feels like my feet are dragging the ground...An Arabian is the horse The South Park Kids ride...lol

[jswarpaint]

I have lost the original horse that I got from grizzlies it was hitched in camp when I removed my saddle from it to go with Hosea it no longer recognized it on the map and it did not show up in the stable also while exploring around BEFORE going Bear hunting a guy was changing the shoe on his horse the horse kicked him so I took the horse even though I only rode this horse and kept whistling my other horse to keep up it never allowed me to make this horse my primary horse this horse had great attributes would cost hundreds of dollars in a stable

so then I went on the bear hunt and WHAM this horse disappeared

I am glad others have not had problems but I have.

[jswarpaint]

Originally posted by Kizzie:

Thanks for this js great work -did it take you much testing and dying to find out?

wasn't to bad because I started playing the game then realized wait I need to read the manual more and take it slower so I restarted it ... then I finished it .. all of it .. the I restarted it again to play it .. then I lost a horse again that I like so then I restarted it again to figure out what the deal is.

Some on hear do not loose horses evidently but this is what has happened to me ..

I get the Grizzly horse we finally get to horseshoe overlook I take this horse and start exploring I come across a guy and knife him take his horse and ride it around whistling to my original horse to follow then suddenly this horse becomes my main horse when this happens it says your horse has died and so I go back to get my saddle and put it on this new horse I got that I was riding bareback. (You also can't remove your saddle it seems to after the Bear Hunt.) so now I have a primary horse only one ..

Then I come across a great horse have still not been on the bear hunt .. then I eventually go on the bear hunt and have two horses then I loose both of em .... wheeee

[jswarpaint]

I should have mentioned the Fence to ya need the Fence according to the internet to get this up and running you need to do the Hosea Matthews missions - so again it seems to revolve around Hosea ...

[DargonBlak]

Originally posted by jswarpaint:

I have lost the original horse that I got from grizzlies it was hitched in camp when I removed my saddle from it to go with Hosea it no longer recognized it on the map and it did not show up in the stable also while exploring around BEFORE going Bear hunting a guy was changing the shoe on his horse the horse kicked him so I took the horse even though I only rode this horse and kept whistling my other horse to keep up it never allowed me to make this horse my primary horse this horse had great attributes would cost hundreds of dollars in a stable

so then I went on the bear hunt and WHAM this horse disappeared

I am glad others have not had problems but I have.

Any mods installed ?

[DargonBlak]

Originally posted by jswarpaint:

Originally posted by Kizzie:

Thanks for this js great work -did it take you much testing and dying to find out?

wasn't to bad because I started playing the game then realized wait I need to read the manual more and take it slower so I restarted it ... then I finished it .. all of it .. the I restarted it again to play it .. then I lost a horse again that I like so then I restarted it again to figure out what the deal is.

Some on hear do not loose horses evidently but this is what has happened to me ..

I get the Grizzly horse we finally get to horseshoe overlook I take this horse and start exploring I come across a guy and knife him take his horse and ride it around whistling to my original horse to follow then suddenly this horse becomes my main horse when this happens it says your horse has died and so I go back to get my saddle and put it on this new horse I got that I was riding bareback. (You also can't remove your saddle it seems to after the Bear Hunt.) so now I have a primary horse only one ..

Then I come across a great horse have still not been on the bear hunt .. then I eventually go on the bear hunt and have two horses then I loose both of em .... wheeee

hm - you're right that you cannot remove the saddle prior to Hosea's Bear Hunt - any "alternate" horse you ride before then will simply be an alternate horse.

No matter how many times you switch, the Grizzly horse will always be your Main Horse (shown as a special horse icon in the minimap & overland map).

Alternate (or "spare") mounts show with a simpler Horse icon

However, i have no idea what happens if you manage to kill your Main Horse before going Bear Hunting with Hosea. That's a new on on me. ::shrug::

But simply put - i do agree that it is pretty much a wasted effort to try to find a "better horse" Before going Hunting with Hosea.

And i think that was your primary "Lessons Learned" that u wanted to share.

P.S. The "Mahogany Bay" Tennessee Walker we get in Chapter 1 is actually a pretty decent horse. With 3/4 stats for Health/Stamina, it is comparable to standard America Paints and Appaloosas. With an improved Saddle & Stirrups, this horse could make it through the game.
https://rankedboost.com/red-dead-redemption-2/horse-saddle/

[Rove McMenu]

>Best way to start the game over

Why would I do that when I could just find the gold bars, fully upgrade and stock the camp with heaps left over? I haven't even gotten TB on my second run but I already have the Legend of the East satchel.