Low honour is better. Not to be rude but how do people even play high honour?

[dont laugh, bad with deagle]

Spoilers!

Low honour is better.


First of all, more fun. I like being cruel to innocent NPC's. I enjoy behaving like a psycho.


Second, Arthur is NOT a good man. He's a thief and a thug. It makes sense to roleplay him as an evil man.

Third, the gang needs money. It makes sense Arthur will rob people to make enough money to get the gang out.

Now, playing low honour may be weird as Jonh, because you are supposed to be lying low. So yeah, in that case high honour makes sense. But i still play low.


I literally can't bring myself to play high honour.


Why do people seem to prefer high honour?

[GhostyOsty]

Depends on the perspecive of others. I rather make Arthur a better person.

[Joe Coffee]

Originally posted by Big Boss:

Spoilers!

Low honour is better.


First of all, more fun. I like being cruel to innocent NPC's. I enjoy behaving like a psycho.


Second, Arthur is NOT a good man. He's a thief and a thug. It makes sense to roleplay him as an evil man.

Third, the gang needs money. It makes sense Arthur will rob people to make enough money to get the gang out.

Now, playing low honour may be weird as Jonh, because you are supposed to be lying low. So yeah, in that case high honour makes sense. But i still play low.


I literally can't bring myself to play high honour.


Why do people seem to prefer high honour?

So I guess Robin Hood aught to have everything coming to him by your perspective.

[MacSuibhne]

Disclaimer--I don't own this game yet. But I just finished Kingdom Come Deliverance and this issue was explored a little bit.

I think... my opinion only... that the impulse to massacre a village or even to be cruel comes from within. And whether we give into it in real life or in a video game requires the same sensibilities and values... or lack of them.

I suspect that when we feed our base impulses... our Heart of Darkness... it grows. It gets stronger and it gets easier to be cruel--to ignore the human-ness of other people in real life. And harder to feel sympathy and empathy and compassion. We are literally feeding a monster.

In real life, all atrocities, all cruelty starts in the imagination.

IMO... FWIW...

[The Sundance Kid]

Arthur was a thief and a thug and probably would've stayed a thief and a thug if it wasn't for the TB. Also it seems you've missed his whole development throughout the story. Arthur Morgan is one of the best written/developed and redeemed characters in videogame history. Also you're probably somewhat delusional or sick in the head if you enjoy killing innocent npcs. One thing is a thief, a completely different thing is a murderer/serial killer, lol.

[RageMojo]

You dont have to justify your evil nature to us, play however you want. But your not fooling anyone.

Arthur was very much a good man who did illegal things. The gang never took from the poor or raped like the O'Driscoll's. They make that distinction incredibly clear when they rescue Sadie and scold Micha for his callousness.

What game were you playing?

[Groogo]

I have never been able to play an evil character in any of the games that I have played, it just doesn't set well with me. I try my best to play a decent Arthur and sometimes (fairly often) I get the PC controls mixed up and hit or grab somebody I am trying to talk to or some other error...it's a pain and I keep trying to work my way out of having low honor. I am getting better and it is not such a struggle as it used to be...I think I am actually starting to get a small purchasing discount. I had to restart my game because I was having low-honor problems due to mistakes, overall my play and honor are improving.

[Brasse]

Originally posted by MacSuibhne:

Disclaimer--I don't own this game yet. But I just finished Kingdom Come Deliverance and this issue was explored a little bit.

I think... my opinion only... that the impulse to massacre a village or even to be cruel comes from within. And whether we give into it in real life or in a video game requires the same sensibilities and values... or lack of them.

I suspect that when we feed our base impulses... our Heart of Darkness... it grows. It gets stronger and it gets easier to be cruel--to ignore the human-ness of other people in real life. And harder to feel sympathy and empathy and compassion. We are literally feeding a monster.

In real life, all atrocities, all cruelty starts in the imagination.

IMO... FWIW...

The within (let's say identity and sense of self) and the imagination is built by the outside world though. And accounting all the countless variables that this implies, it's much more likely that irl-behavior reflects into the game rather than the opposite.

I feel personally that there might be some tiny truth to "feeding the monster" (not literally though) but ever since Grand Theft Auto came out, there's been countless scientific studies on this topic and it's pretty much conclusive that virtual destruction or cruelty have little to no effect on real world behavior.

Personally I always play as the nice guy when given the choice, and RDR2 was no exception. With hundreds of hours into the game though, I've shifted to 100% bastard, causing mayhem wherever I go. It's just way more fun.

I never attack other players though, not even when the game implies that I should. Simply because I know how much it sucks being the other guy.

[Groogo]

I certainly do not buy into the "countless studies" theory when more often then not there is an agenda to be served by the so called "studies". You want less death and destruction in IRL society, let's have less video game training of death and destruction on young minds. Even posting and arguing on cyberspace forums often effects what is and is not said in public.

We are suffering under the effects of Big Tech. in our lives, not just in cyber-space.

[Brasse]

Originally posted by Groogo:

I certainly do not buy into the "countless studies" theory when more often then not there is an agenda to be served by the so called "studies". You want less death and destruction in IRL society, let's have less video game training of death and destruction on young minds. Even posting and arguing on cyberspace forums often effects what is and is not said in public.

We are suffering under the effects of Big Tech. in our lives, not just in cyber-space.

What do you buy into then? It's been 20 years since this debate started, I think it's safe to say viewpoints are pretty diversified by now.

I don't feel like taking this into politics but I'm pretty sure death and destruction is down and declining since the beginning of the information age. If you're making an argument for something else, it's nice to know what you base that on. Given of course you agree that science is and should be the ground of our common understanding of things.

[RageMojo]

Originally posted by Groogo:

I certainly do not buy into the "countless studies" theory when more often then not there is an agenda to be served by the so called "studies". You want less death and destruction in IRL society, let's have less video game training of death and destruction on young minds. Even posting and arguing on cyberspace forums often effects what is and is not said in public.

We are suffering under the effects of Big Tech. in our lives, not just in cyber-space.

Absolute nonsense. Look up the history of "Yellow Journalism". This social media stuff is not new at all.

[Psycho]

I only reach high honor for quests that require it, or stuff like that. but when im all done with that im gonna be the most evil cowboah ever

a few certain quests are really the only thing that high honor affects

[reprodukTOOOOOOOOOOOR]

there is REDEMPTION in the title for a reason lol

[D]

Lucky, I wanted to start a Low Honor playthrough since forever but I just can't bring myself to being evil.

[introspXtion]

Freud theorised that RDR2 players that go around killing everyone were trying to compensate for weaknesses IRL... and a lack of sexual prowess.

[dont laugh, bad with deagle]

Originally posted by Gigachad with a plan:

Arthur was a thief and a thug and probably would've stayed a thief and a thug if it wasn't for the TB. Also it seems you've missed his whole development throughout the story. Arthur Morgan is one of the best written/developed and redeemed characters in videogame history. Also you're probably somewhat delusional or sick in the head if you enjoy killing innocent npcs. One thing is a thief, a completely different thing is a murderer/serial killer, lol.

Wdym?


I don't know if he is one of the bets written characters in history. I wouldn't say so.


Either way, low honour makes more sense. As i said, the gang needs the money. It makes sense Arthur does evil things to get the money. It makes his downfall more tragic, for we can see that his evil deeds haven't helped him.

"You speak as if killing was something i cared about"