First person, on PC?

[MacSuibhne]

Touched on this in a previous discussion but I am still undecided about whether to keep this game or not. Two hours is miserably short to see if a game is gonna work for you..system specs, mechanics, etc.

I spent 50 minutes of my two hours just getting to the cabin where Dutch is asking for food. I got killed in the firefight and got out of the game. But I was not much further along in understanding the basic controls, much less anything else.

I know it takes time but there is a stumbling block, for me at least--I don't want to play this game in third person. I have no interest in doing that. None.

And I am on PC and not ready to purchase a controller only to find out I can't use it.

So...I would appreciate any advice, esp. from people in the same situation. Has anyone played this game exclusively (or near exclusively) in single person mode on pc?

[DargonBlak]

Originalmente postado por MacSuibhne:

"If I look like a mean old man, that's what I am..." (Jerry Lee Lewis)

i started playing RDR2 after a First-person SP RPG (that you know), and 3 years of an MMO RPG - and honestly i don't really feel or mind the difference - i can play either.

However, the game combat situations are different between 1st and 3rd person, even how the game is developed - and i think in a game that was designed for 3rd person brawls that first person might be, as you suggest, simply more challenging. And it's mostly ranged weapons these guys used, so they'll have a tendency to surround you.

My gut reaction is that 3rd person gives you a better "look" at the battlespace (like a field commander), and it substitutes for the lack of sensory realism in the sound and breath of actually being on the battlefield. But, there is a minimap that provides all that information too, so maybe it's just easier and that's why people tend to play that way.

As for realism - you will certainly need to "duck and cover" (press Q when near cover) for most enemy swarms. The game will normally bring you out of cover to aim (right mouse click) and you can then shoot (left click while holding right click). I tend not to use the "cover" function since it rubberbands me to a location (and you know i hate being rubber-banded :) )

Oh - and TAB brings up the Item wheel, and Q/E switches between item groups, but simply rotating ur scroll button will allows you to select between slotted weapons.

And "B" brings up ur Satchel (or "Bag" as i call it in my brain)

I think i'll go play in First Person for a while so i can give you an honest comparison.

[Myyrä]

I never use it because you cannot change the FOV, it gives me a headache.

[MacSuibhne]

Originalmente postado por Noma:

You hate something until you're open minded enough to try to like it. It's like everything, if said creation is not ♥♥♥♥, you're your own limit on that matter.

I understand the sentiment but as i mentioned, I have played 3rdp--Witcher 3, which is highly regarded by some. The game was OK but just OK, mainly because I never really identified with Geralt.

But in the end, I hated it... not because I wasn't "open minded enough to try it" but because I don't feel involved. That may stem from all the first person shooters I've played but in any case I don't like feeling like a puppeteer. I dislike that sense of detachment. I don't want to just be a sight-seer.

I play exclusively on mouse and keyboard. The game as a rather unsually large array of bindable actions, and I find using the gamepad a bit clunky.

That's encouraging.

I really feel 'twixt and between--one moment I'm vowing to refund it, the next I'm thinking maybe.

The 1stp aspect is really the hang up for me. It will probably be the deciding factor. I keep hoping for someone who has played the entire game in 1stp to comment.

[MacSuibhne]

Originalmente postado por DargonBlak:

i started playing RDR2 after a First-person SP RPG (that you know),
I think i'll go play in First Person for a while so i can give you an honest comparison.

Well, I know you are a thoughtful individual, and I will look forward to your comments.

Of no particular relevance... after reading this forum, for a little bit I see that the complaints about jank and bugs in RDR2 are as bad or worse than that "other" game. That scares me a little-- I'm spoiled. xD

[Ayahuasca]

Originalmente postado por MacSuibhne:

Originalmente postado por DargonBlak:

i started playing RDR2 after a First-person SP RPG (that you know),
I think i'll go play in First Person for a while so i can give you an honest comparison.

Well, I know you are a thoughtful individual, and I will look forward to your comments.

Of no particular relevance... after reading this forum, for a little bit I see that the complaints about jank and bugs in RDR2 are as bad or worse than that "other" game. That scares me a little-- I'm spoiled. xD

have you ever played or considered "Subnatica" very good fpv game single player and ya amazing game

[JACKSin]

Yeah you can play first person. It should be c or v or something on the keyboard. Whatever it is you'll have to cycle through the different camera views. It's 3 views for 3rd person and then 1st person. Personally I would want 50-60 frames for 1st person but don't get that so I've only played it for bits. But it works fine, it's actually a pretty unique experience 3rd person players don't get.

You can use a controller. It has native support for playstation 4 controllers (meaning you don't need to do anything special- just plug it in) and all games that support controllers support xbox controllers.

It's a good game. Get past the learning curve and you should have a good time. But not everything is for everyone.

[MacSuibhne]

Just to satisfy my curiosity, is a Logitech xbox controller any good?

[ant_sh]

Be the first person who played through RDR2 in first person mode. I read somewhere that developers designed the game with that in mind.
You don't need a controller for that.

[MacSuibhne]

Originalmente postado por ant_sh:

Be the first person who played through RDR2 in first person mode. I read somewhere that developers designed the game with that in mind.
You don't need a controller for that.

If the rules... R*'s rules? Steam rules?... would at least let you get settled in enough to understand the controls; maybe get through the prologue, as part of the limitations for refund, and I could get a handle on it, I'd do just that.

As it is, I started the game (in 3p) and got as far as the cabin where Dutch is trying to negotiate for some food and the subsequent shootout before i died. That took 50 minutes of my 2 hour trial time.

When I bought the game I thought I would have 14 days.

[ant_sh]

As one famous game character said "You should have faith". If you managed to launch the game consider yourself a winner and don't refund it! Just stick with 1st person mode and get accustomed to controls. I am sure pretty soon you'll get the hang of it and shootouts will become a breeze when you get dead-eye ability.

[Noma]

Originalmente postado por MacSuibhne:

I understand the sentiment but as i mentioned, I have played 3rdp--Witcher 3, which is highly regarded by some. The game was OK but just OK, mainly because I never really identified with Geralt.

The Witcher's 3 gameplay is actually subpar. It's probably the only real flaw the game has (besides the hand holding in the exploration). Dragon's Dogma, which was released 3 years earlier, absolutely wreck it gameplay-wise. Well, it's a Japanese game so it was to be expected.

Also remember that you're playing Arthur, you're not playing some random avatar. He has his own behaviour and body language, more than in any other game. Even then, it doesn't mean that you're a pupeeter, most people don't feel like this anyway. I sure don't.

If you can't wrap your head around the way it's meant to be played, maybe it's best to leave it at that. The FPS view is not perfect and you will probably resent it. Or get used to it, I don't know.
Compared to most FPS, here the first person gameplay do fell clunky, because the game is animation heavy. It's first and foremost a 3rd person game, much like GTA V.

[Flam3]

I have played through the entire singleplayer solely in first person, it really is a different game seeing it all the way through like that, it certainly is more immersive and I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and I could spend several hours just wondering about taking in the scenery or even doing a bit of hunting and fishing.

The PC controls do take a bit to get used to, especially on horseback, but there is a camera/control setting that I personally found made my experience that much better (as well as a few friends when I mentioned to them) which is changing the control of the horse to being horse relative, so you essentially use 'A' and 'D' to steer whilst having control of the camera to be able to look around all the while your horse continues to go straight instead of steering in the direction you face.

I will say that the prologue itself can take upwards of 2+ hours depending on you, but it does explain the various controls and mechanics through a series of notification boxes, once you pass this, the game truly opens up allowing you that freedom you'd expect in an open world game.

[MacSuibhne]

Originalmente postado por Flam3:

I have played through the entire singleplayer solely in first person, .

Very helpful and encouraging. Thank you.

Just coming off a 1p game where horse controls were very similar, so that's no hardship.