Can other players crash your game?

[David Davidson]

So, I was heading up to Hanis Bethel to do some collecting. There was a PvE gunfight going on there. I decided to chip in and help out by killing whoever was shooting at the other player. I then went to get the collectable leaving them to their loot.
They must have been salty over something as they went hostile and killed me with semi auto pistols.
I headshotted them with a carcano, gave a good shout of "♥♥♥♥ around and find out" into the mic. Waited to get them in their reapawn and they fired some (pitiful) shots at me with some sort of pea shooter.
I took cover and took some moonshine for health fortification, switched to my mausers as they were approaching me and kablam, game locked up, crashed to desktop.

I've heard OnlyPvPCat (YouTube) say that modders will crash you but he's Russian so it might be lost in translation. However I've never had a straight crash to desktop, I've had a "error <numbers> please reboot" before and had to log out and back in to even get the game to let me log in but never a straight C2D with no error code.

So is it just bad game design or can modders crash your client as I was having quite a satisfying bit of PvP there and would have got him with the mausers if I hadn't crashed.

Edit, on logging back in I'm also a really big distance away from where I crashed, I was up by Hanis bethel (the cult church at the pond above emerald ranch) and now I'm down by Lagras.

Edit: There it goes again. Crashed to desktop getting on my horse. I average about 50fps. I'll try restarting my PC and see if that makes a difference.

[Light Weapons Guy]

Wouldn't be surprised if other players crashing your game is real. I've been playing solo today a bunch just doing bounties to rank up, and one time when i leave the bounty poster in valentine i see three wank stains from the same posse in passive mode all around me. Soon as i got on my horse and started walking away they all exited it simultaneously and sprayed me with bullets.

Apparently they didn't think someone wearing starter clothes could afford any decent gun sooo I one shot all of them with the rolling block rifle. they killed me a few times but overall it was straight up embarrassing how they couldn't really do anything meaningful 3vs1 as i just kept mowing them down due to them refusing to take any kind of cover and the game spawning me in good positions to snipe from.

After oneshotting their leader off their horse, my game immediately crashed seconds later.
Now, I should probably mention I don't have the beefiest of PC's to run this game, but it runs smoothly most of the time and crashes are pretty damn rare. Knowing the braindead modders/cheaters of GTA online servers that are still present en masse, I would absolutely not be surprised if they had a way to crash my game once they get salty enough.

[JACKSin]

are you sure it was bullets they sprayed you with :P

[-Шasтe|Мanageмenт-]

Yes, they are able to crash your game. And from that, if they are actually smart, they can DDOS your internet since this game still uses p2p connection..

5 different modders have crashed my game multiple times since I first started playing online in January. That's because I've caught them cheating, taunted them in the DM (yes, I can't stand them, reason why I'm a target lol), and reported them via the ingame player menu.

The mod menu that these cheaters use can see (probably block aswell) the report I sent to Rockstar and track my IP. They got pissed, crashed my game and followed me after every game restart, just to constantly crash my game, not even trolling my character fist. How do I know if it's them? Well, player list.. I can see their same name joining after the game loaded me in, just a few seconds before they crashed the game. The only way I can escape them is by using VPN/changing the IP. Waiting in the player list for the same guy to come in, but they just stop all of a sudden, along with the game crash.

[David Davidson]

Originally posted by B.W.S:

Wouldn't be surprised if other players crashing your game is real. I've been playing solo today a bunch just doing bounties to rank up, and one time when i leave the bounty poster in valentine i see three wank stains from the same posse in passive mode all around me. Soon as i got on my horse and started walking away they all exited it simultaneously and sprayed me with bullets.

Apparently they didn't think someone wearing starter clothes could afford any decent gun sooo I one shot all of them with the rolling block rifle. they killed me a few times but overall it was straight up embarrassing how they couldn't really do anything meaningful 3vs1 as i just kept mowing them down due to them refusing to take any kind of cover and the game spawning me in good positions to snipe from.

After oneshotting their leader off their horse, my game immediately crashed seconds later.
Now, I should probably mention I don't have the beefiest of PC's to run this game, but it runs smoothly most of the time and crashes are pretty damn rare. Knowing the braindead modders/cheaters of GTA online servers that are still present en masse, I would absolutely not be surprised if they had a way to crash my game once they get salty enough.

That is interesting.
It would also be useful if there was a 10 second cool down to change from passive and during that cooldown you flash on the map to let other players know what theyre up to.
I had two people try something similar yesterday but because I was indoors and they were just outdoors the guy with the bow fired one arrow, missed (at this point I took out a stick of dynamite) they fired a second and wounded me, I tossed the stick out the door and both got blown up.

[-Шasтe|Мanageмenт-]

Also my crash message then was always "Error: FFFFFF", I think its also a common crash for some ppl without involving cheaters.. but you read my experience, and I never get this kind of error in my normal single/online gameplay, only with those losers.

[RageMojo]

Of course they can, this is nothing new. Its been happening in GTAO since nearly day one as well.

[Light Weapons Guy]

Originally posted by RageMojo:

Of course they can, this is nothing new. Its been happening in GTAO since nearly day one as well.

The sad part is that GTAO modders somehow CAN'T actually crash your game on demand, and it's much easier to avoid them there in the first place because you can always see a player list of everyone on the server, not just people next to you, and there's private and friends-only sessions. RDO has none of that, and even stopping the game process to get split into a solo lobby, while working the same way as in GTAO, is less effective since you cant see when new people join and you need to do it again.

This game that came out years after GTAO, made by the same people, somehow has worse ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ multiplayer security than GTAO.

[David Davidson]

Originally posted by RageMojo:

Of course they can, this is nothing new. Its been happening in GTAO since nearly day one as well.

Not sure whether it's funny that some kid needs to crash a players game because they suck so much or sad honestly.
And it seems like they've finished their dinner/homework as it's happening again after about an hour.
Definitely a kid, if it's not an issue with game file integrity. However the fact that I restart half way across the map makes me feel like I'm being teleported which is crashing the game.

I did manage to have a pretty fun PvP encounter in the meantime (and I play passively, I even just followed after a rivals wagon to say hi to the guy) when I spawned down at manzanita post. I was checking the map when someone killed me with a carbine repeater.
I headshotted him with a carcano and then his friend roped me (I had no idea they were together) the whole time I was roped I just asked "are you sure you want to do this?" did a few faux attempts at breaking free (or breaking my thumb, button mashing isn't fun) then when he thought I didn't care broke free punched him and unloaded my Mausers into him while he was stunned.
Then gave my signature" ♥♥♥♥ around and find out"
Then he and his friend kept repeatedly running right towards me in what were essentially banzai charges seemingly trying to lasso and hogtie me while I just John Wicked them with my Mausers.
They did shoot but I'd taken a potent health cure so it wasn't exactly effective.
I ended up leaving after killing both of them about 4 or 5 times because I kind of felt bad for them but mainly I was out of ammo.
Though now that I think about it I should have switched to split point ammo.

I need to make a separate funny PvP encounters thread.

Somehow I have a 50 cent (bank breaking, I know) bounty though when they both attacked me.

[David Davidson]

It's been happening again and again.
Pretty much every time I join a bounty mission.
Has there been an update or is it a case of a cheater stalking me and trying to crash me out at every chance?
I've heard other people saying that they suspect that R* or their employees sell the mod menus.
People get their games ruined, they lose streaks and buy gold.
Other people buy the mod menus to ruin peoples games.


I mean the fact that I'm even asking if the problem is due to cheaters/hackers underscores a huge issue with the game and one that is never addressed.
Players having zero faith in developers to this point isn't a good thing. R* have been living the high life off their single player titles but they need to get things together if they want to move into modern gaming.

[RageMojo]

Originally posted by B.W.S:

Originally posted by RageMojo:

Of course they can, this is nothing new. Its been happening in GTAO since nearly day one as well.

The sad part is that GTAO modders somehow CAN'T actually crash your game on demand, and it's much easier to avoid them there in the first place because you can always see a player list of everyone on the server, not just people next to you, and there's private and friends-only sessions. RDO has none of that, and even stopping the game process to get split into a solo lobby, while working the same way as in GTAO, is less effective since you cant see when new people join and you need to do it again.

This game that came out years after GTAO, made by the same people, somehow has worse ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ multiplayer security than GTAO.

Yes they can, they spawn endless objects on you till your system cant handle it. Of course now a days you can potentially leave fast enough if you know whats going on, but most dont till its too late and the game crashed or froze.

Player lists are worthless as they can hide themselves and spoof names, here too.

Also Rockstar doesnt care about our happiness and enjoyment, only squeezing micro-transaction sales out of the gullible.

[Silhouette]

Yes. I believe modders can crash your game client.

[-Шasтe|Мanageмenт-]

Originally posted by RageMojo:

Player lists are worthless as they can hide themselves and spoof names, here too.

You're right, I guess I've encountered pretty much noob cheaters. But that's just me trying to confirm if somebody is following me. But even without that, I can just change my IP address if I suspect a cheater is crashing my game, since that's a solution that works for me.

[David Davidson]

Originally posted by -Шasтe|Мanageмenт-:

Originally posted by RageMojo:

Player lists are worthless as they can hide themselves and spoof names, here too.

You're right, I guess I've encountered pretty much noob cheaters. But that's just me trying to confirm if somebody is following me. But even without that, I can just change my IP address if I suspect a cheater is crashing my game, since that's a solution that works for me.

Yeah, while an IP address isn't the same as your home address R* making it public to other players makes you extremely vulnerable to anything from DDOS attacks to more sophisticated attacks.

It's interesting the way games urinalists report on cheating in RDRO by saying that cheaters make the game more fun by breaking the monotony and so on.

They don't mention that it's safer to play with a VPN because your IP address is as open as if you were connecting to a webpage.

I love the game world but the handling of this seems like a kid's first vidya project of insecure and incompetent.

Honestly I'm surprised SidAlpha hasn't put them on the Dirty Devs / corpo rats list.

[Tashnaladar]

to be honest alot of this sounds nightmarish, i am very sorry this stuff is happening, no i don't work for rockstar thank god

[Finwe Uwetil]

Mod menu users can do all kinds of nasty stuff, but recent patches introduced for me at least a random CTDs without error message.