Is there a unwanted! gunning NPCs problem where you have dual controls working...

[the bat kite]

I am a gaming noob and I have been playing the singleplayer game for 32 hours now and I am screwed. "I'm" in the Grizzlies with rock walls and cliffs everywhere and Arthur is dragging around, constantly sick, and "every" NPC who happens to see me coming near to his camp or cabin, or just some random traveler on the road, immediately death threats me and quickly starts trying to kill me even as I try to escape. I can't yet shoot for ♥♥♥♥; don't even know how to activate dead eye. I am really low on meat food and although my horse is alive, somehow, it's despite all I have to feed her being snacks - my snacks. She or he is not a NPC that I can keep alive much longer (I fear). This is a grim game! I lost track of all of my gang members after I took some sleeping uncle character and several camp ladies to Valentine in a a wagon. I have no idea how to get back to my camp. What good is this ridiculous map?!

How do you %$#@&ing play this game.
This is my third computer game attempted, out of three tried in my lifetime. I am not young, having naturally grown up playing computer games.

.....back to the singleplayer and dual controls issue: I have a gaming keyboard and gaming mouse and a Steam controller plugged-in, at once. They give me more options? but work at cross-purposes too.

Everything went downhill at once, when playing as a clean cowboy, I just up and shot a hotel desk clerk without realizing it. The character was simply in front of me. The gun was drawn and fired in one BUTTON motion, AFAIK. Is that even possible using a single controlling device?! Witnesses now have lawmen and bounty hunters killing my character over and over again. That is not fun.

The unwanted all-in-one-motion draw and shoot glitch (i know it isn't properly-speaking a game glitch) happened again later too and "someone" else was unintentionally shot, once...and died. What good luck! My Arthur must have psychotic tendencies because I have messed-up by using two controllers at once. I paid $170 for this Steam Controller and it works no better than an X-Box One controller I had bought before it, a Microsoft-made one that costs $100.

[the bat kite]

I saw a youtube video that told me where the camp is and I went back. So that helped alot. But the game is really slow. I was invited to hunt a bear and was beaten to death three times in the Valentine saloon. Where's the action? What IS the action? Dutch has started complaining that I haven't robbed people to contribute enough to the camp. I've given all my money and every valuable, like three precious metal rings. Is there any point in doing this? What does the camp give to me. Me!
...a footlocker and a bed. I cannot find anyone helping any one there at HQ - just a bunch of grouches and gossipers.

If I become an outlaw (robber), how do I pull that off without being seen by witnesses and a bounty put on your head? What is so great that you can buy with stolen money. Today I got 33 cents of a man who was threatening to kill me and who I eventually attacked and killed in the exchange.

I found out that you can hang around a town until the sheriff finally accosts you, and you just surrender and do jail time. The game is a big let down. And pointless trouble is everywhere. Every last stranger tries to kill me out in the sticks. Why is RDR2 it SO popular?

[Charley Pepper]

Best advise I can give to you, is to go to youtube and watch some of the many videos on how to play/get started. Search any of the many issues you have raised here and you will find guides and more. Stay away from 'Mr Boss FTW' though. He's crap.

[David Davidson]

It's popular because of its atmosphere.
The first few hours are slow.
Do the story missions. You'll make plenty more money by doing them than robbing people.
As for the whole bounty and witness thing, pull up your bandana, that way witnesses won't know who you are unless you've been wearing the same clothes around town constantly, having a set of thieves clothes and normal clothes is one way around that. Lawmen however can see through your bandana and you'll get a bounty then.
Honestly the whole single player bounty thing is broken as hell you rack up way too high of a bounty way too quickly, especially compared to single player bounty hunting which pays about $40-100 per bounty. So is the multilayer bounty system (killing like 8 lawmen who were irritating me got me a whole one dollar and 50 cent bounty online) RDR2 is really a game where non-story high stakes crime really doesn't pay as for online, well there isn't any crime (yet) trains are empty (no driver even, you can just walk up and drive one online).
In single player mode focus on the story missions and stranger missions.
As for the whole quickdraw thing, that's been parodied.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-FGO_DNwZX4&vl=en
Cut to 4:30

[Clancy]

You could also try rdr2.org/guides/story-mode . . .lots of good info on all the little things that will make the story more clear and the game easier. It does get a lot better when you finally get a heads-up on what to do when and how to do it . . .good luck

[JACKSin]

deadeye is right stick while aiming or the scroll wheel on your mouse

If you highlight an npc with the left trigger or the mouse button and press shoot you'll quick draw them.

There might be problem with how your controller is set up but there's no problem using a controller together with the keyboard.

I'm not familiar with the steam controller but I think it emulates a keyboard and mouse, so that could be problem.

[the bat kite]

Thank you, everybody. I appreciate your help - your time and efforts spent to help me out.

[DargonBlak]

Originally posted by cajindian:

Thank you, everybody. I appreciate your help - your time and efforts spent to help me out.

All video games, even "Pong", expect the user to understand the Controls.

For modern games with so many controls and nuances, you really do need to do some homework.

For this game, you need to learn about:
- Cores: how to drain, how to restore, how to improve
- Using Dead Eye - and how to restore
- How to Camp & Craft
- How to Hunt & Harvest (including herbs)
- How to fight & block

The game missions are pretty linear and full proof, but there are some tricks to know - that bear attack is real aggressive for so early in game.

Send me a friend request if you want direct help - but most of it should be on your own.

[the bat kite]

Originally posted by DargonBlak:

Originally posted by cajindian:

Thank you, everybody. I appreciate your help - your time and efforts spent to help me out.

All video games, even "Pong", expect the user to understand the Controls.

For modern games with so many controls and nuances, you really do need to do some homework.

For this game, you need to learn about:
- Cores: how to drain, how to restore, how to improve
- Using Dead Eye - and how to restore
- How to Camp & Craft
- How to Hunt & Harvest (including herbs)
- How to fight & block

The game missions are pretty linear and full proof, but there are some tricks to know - that bear attack is real aggressive for so early in game.

Send me a friend request if you want direct help - but most of it should be on your own.

Thank you. I thank you as well, sir.

I see that list on things that are in particular RDR2 learning areas. But beyond those I feel like the game in each of it's unique movement commands is altogether still too complicated for the average guy or gal who is trying to enjoy a state of the art fast action (multi-tasking) video game. I could be mistaken. I am a noob, after all.

Maybe it's too complex and involved, and low on instructions, and that especially for anyone who hasn't 'grown up' on these kinds of open world games. This is Rockstar's GTA, but set in the sticks of the old West. For me, so far, after more than well over a full-time work week's time of hours spent playing it, it remains unfocused -not a directed adventure at all, and iS naturally (by design) a constant headache...IMO.

RDR2 is for a select number of people, and I am not one of those. Not yet, anyway.

Yesterday I robbed a house in Emerald Ranch and Hosea stole a stagecoach, simultaneously. Now I have some money. What do I do with it except to buy ammo and food?

This is a game for longtime gamers who DO have the time and DESIRE to attend to numerous youtube tutorials to make the game a lot more accessible and therefore fun.

I have bought a Redragon gaming keyboard, a Redragon gaming mouse, a Microsoft made X Box controller and a Steam Controller, and yet I am still SOL here. That's why I started the discussion. I killed a hotel clerk in "Valentine" - don't know how. Then I was on the run and everybody was trying to kill me. As I tried to escape, moonshiners are firing-on and hitting me. A watchman at a military fort does the same thing, immediately. ...Killed three times in a bar fight the game forces me to engage in. I had no clue where the camp was.

There is not, AFAIK, a PC keyboard key listing on the game's info. areas for the kb and/or other controllers' commands it requires to control your character. I have spent a fortune on these gaming controllers - several hundred dollars to get to where I am now, struggling to play RDR2. Before that, I was having a load of fun on Wreckfest with a Thrustmaster joystick the internet recommended for it. Actually, that joystick was bought for my first game: IL-Sturmovik, ROF, and Flying Circus. Those are truly super hard games.

[Charley Pepper]

Probably a good idea when purchasing a game to look at all the menus before playing. For example:

For keyboard/mouse go to Settings>Controls>Keyboard/Mouse
For controllers go to Settings>Controls>Controller

Movement keys are W for forwards, S for backwards, A for left, D for right.

[the bat kite]

Originally posted by English Bob:

Probably a good idea when purchasing a game to look at all the menus before playing. For example:

For keyboard/mouse go to Settings>Controls>Keyboard/Mouse
For controllers go to Settings>Controls>Controller

Movement keys are W for forwards, S for backwards, A for left, D for right.

I did not see the RDR2 specific keyboard controls or the X Box & Playstation type settings listed on/in the game in a menu. I've looked. Again, I admit I am a noob. I'm nearly 60 years old and never was a gamer. I've played four company's games, total. I forgot that I did play a Vietnam war game in multiplayer and was killed over and over and over again by the toxic griefers that populated it. I quit after I got sick of not being able to ever truly participate in that game because of these unsportsmanlike buttholes. Now I only play singleplayer games. On the subject here of RDR2, I did find the keyboard ones listed online. Only online. I can't get my printer to print that PDF document of what would be pages in the teens. See, that's how complicated the game is. It has pages of keyboard prompts to make it work for you...to have fun. I cannot find a tutorial on youtube anywhere that explains the basic meaning of the buttons and triggers function(s) on a controller. (What's wrong with that knowledge hole?) (Alot!)

[Charley Pepper]

As I've already explained, they are in the settings menu.

At the first screen, select [Settings]
Or
When you are in the game press the [Esc] button.
There will now be a list of options on the left-hand side of the screen.
Press [Settings] which is the bottom one.
Now you will see some panels. Click the one that says [Controls].
Now you will see two panels, [Keyboard and Mouse] and [Controller]
If you select [Keyboard and Mouse], at the top of the list you will see [Keyboard Mapping]

You will now be presented with a list all the keys and what they do.

[Eminem]

Originally posted by cajindian:

Why is RDR2 it SO popular?

No clue. That being said I miss the days when I was a true newb figuring stuff out on my own...cause the newb experience can only be had that one time with any game. Those are literally the best times. I remember back in the day as a true world of warcraft newb I was hanging around stormwind and came upon <purely by accident> the deeprun tram to Ironforge. Except I jumped off the tram and got stuck for hours there clueless, good times!

wish i was in your shoes again bruh

[the bat kite]

Originally posted by English Bob:

As I've already explained, they are in the settings menu.

At the first screen, select [Settings]
Or
When you are in the game press the [Esc] button.
There will now be a list of options on the left-hand side of the screen.
Press [Settings] which is the bottom one.
Now you will see some panels. Click the one that says [Controls].
Now you will see two panels, [Keyboard and Mouse] and [Controller]
If you select [Keyboard and Mouse], at the top of the list you will see [Keyboard Mapping]

You will now be presented with a list all the keys and what they do.

Thank you! Excellent.

[the bat kite]

Originally posted by Eminem:

Originally posted by cajindian:

Why is RDR2 it SO popular?

No clue. That being said I miss the days when I was a true newb figuring stuff out on my own...cause the newb experience can only be had that one time with any game. Those are literally the best times. I remember back in the day as a true world of warcraft newb I was hanging around stormwind and came upon <purely by accident> the deeprun tram to Ironforge. Except I jumped off the tram and got stuck for hours there clueless, good times!

wish i was in your shoes again bruh

That's encouraging. I do see what you mean there and it is quite likely true. Maybe being a noob does have it's unique, and unrepeatable, upside :D

I just accidentally shot a NPC man's head completely off in Valentine. I was going to the General Store to buy warmer pants and boots; that's it. He was antagonizing me and I provoked him, verbally (tired of all the tough guy taunts of the NPCs), and he suddenly attacked! I had put away my shotgun after I made the perilous trip (highwaymen are out there) from the camp to town. BUT! when I tried to fist fight with him I saw that I was sawed-off pistol gripped shotgun face-whipping him. Not but a second later the gun went off, and off went his head. Crazy. That takes me back to my OP. How did I kill this guy like I did the hotel desk clerk? I had no intentions of doing so. The shotgun "jumped into" my right hand!? Is it because I don't what the eff I am doing half the time?

[the bat kite]

The game is not taking me anywhere. I can't rob the Valentine Bank now, alone. And that's the only campmate NPC-proposed mission on tap. The only other hints from the game are that I'm not wearing warm enough clothes. I'm dressed very warmly except from the waist down. My campmates say that, about getting better pants and boots, more than anything else, by far. So tonight I'm stalled-out near the Emerald Ranch, having tried to steal either a passing stagecoach or wagon to sell to the fence there ("Seamus"?). I'm broke and everybody is trying to kill me after a botched robbery on the road. I think I'll quit the game. Thanks for so little for so much ($), Rockstar.