Dont buy RDR2 for the single player.

[Cosmo 🐲]

My advice would be to save the money and buy the RDR2 Online standalone, and forget the single player.

The story is good, yeah, the graphics are also good, but the game AI are really broken, and have always been.

AND .... Rockstar dont care, they dont earn money by fixing the single player game.

Those of us that were stupid enough to get it for the single player are just a laughing stock. Rockstars only care are to milk players for money, and the best way to do that are the online game.

I was stupid enough to buy the game both on PS4 and PC, because i trusted that Rockstar would fix the game, and now 3 years later, i can just conclude that Rockstar falls into the same category for me as Ubisoft and Electronic arts. They dont care for their costumers, only money.

Im not buying any more games from them.

If you are wondering what im talking about, with the broken AI, there are 2 videos from "Viva la dirt league" that explains it pretty well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpUlJDovG7g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra0-SDmtX4k

[The Commendatore]

I'd much rather buy this for the single-player than for the cheater-infested multiplayer.

[F4TES]

Unknown, great vids you included, thanx.
I'm afraid you're pretty much wrong on both of your main points. The single player is worth getting, especially at sale price, and I'm quite sure that the AI isn't broken, that's exactly how Rockstar want it to be. The game forces, or tries to force you down the outlaw path. Also, from the depressing, deluded nonsense that my Arthur says to the girls in camp with ?'s, it seems fairly obvious to me that Arthur is supposed to be mentally subnormal and homicidal to boot. If that's the case, then it kinda fits the picture eh?

[EbonHawk]

引用自 F4TES：

Unknown, great vids you included, thanx.
I'm afraid you're pretty much wrong on both of your main points. The single player is worth getting, especially at sale price, and I'm quite sure that the AI isn't broken, that's exactly how Rockstar want it to be. The game forces, or tries to force you down the outlaw path. Also, from the depressing, deluded nonsense that my Arthur says to the girls in camp with ?'s, it seems fairly obvious to me that Arthur is supposed to be mentally subnormal and homicidal to boot. If that's the case, then it kinda fits the picture eh?

Really? I'm still walking around various towns, going, "Howdy, pardner." "Hey, how're you doin'?" and whatnot. My "Good Guy" meter is almost maxed out, but yeah, it's not budging past about 90% and even one little thing I do wrong knocks off about 20%..

[AdmiralPiett]

I'll take "opinions that are objectively wrong" for $60 Alex

And yes, I said objectively. This game, this story, is quite simply amazing. The critics, the gamers, the awards shows, we all agree. Obnoxious MP fanatics like OP and Doomer tell everyone MP is fine when it's clearly toxic and broken. The tragedy of Arthur Morgan and the Van Der Linde Gang is well worth the price of this game.

I mean, come on. They sell MP for $5 just to flood it with Fortnite wannabes. That's why SP is so much better

[Nestorfield]

don't buy the game because AI is bad? You really are some kind of genius, uber human.

[hal]

It would be a real shame if you dissuaded even one person from playing the masterful singleplayer portion of this game.

Setting aside that the videos are obviously tongue-in-cheek, I can say that I have intentionally and accidentally committed crimes in game that have gone unseen. The AI doesn't make it mandatory that you are seen... there's just a fair amount of traffic along several of the trails.

As to the other point the video raises: it's fair. I do wish that the game followed the old west "rules" of self defense. I shouldn't be punished for shooting a guy that shoots at me first. Having said that, it's entirely possible that, as a known trouble-maker, I'm not going to get the benefit of the doubt from witnesses... and some of them may even by biased against me.

My solution to the second point is to not intervene in petty brawls so that I don't draw scrutiny from passerby. As a bad guy trying to be better, I'll help out someone in dire need. Most of the time it works out that I'm not Wanted. Sometimes it doesn't. I can blame a rule set that I wish was different, or I can chalk it up to my own notoriety and move along. It does do a good job of making you feel like you are, occupationally-speaking, living slightly outside the societal norm.

[Silver]

引用自 Unknown：

引用自 Doomed：

I was thinking the same thing lol. Nobody can please people with single player only brains. You give them a complete full game for one price and they cry. You give them part of the game and trickle dlc to them they think they are being treated special but cry that the dlc should be free.
Then they come here and have nothing but toxic negativity about anyone who plays a online game while they say online is toxic.
If anything, judging by comments here, I would say the single player community is the most toxic community.
The OP is right that you shouldn't waste your money on single player though. If you want to read a story buy a book and not a 60 dollar hand held guided tour of a fictional west.

Let me give you an example, and see if you understand that.

I was riding into town,
2 bandits where shooting a civilian, i shot the bandits, trying to save the guy.
I get the law on my neck, for being good guy, thats ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up.

omg you are lost lol

[JACKSin]

Arthur's an outlaw. You wanna be good in this game you gotta shoot the chains off the escaped convict or free the people in the prison wagons. Can't go playing cop if you want your gang to respect you.

[Okami]

引用自 hal：

It would be a real shame if you dissuaded even one person from playing the masterful singleplayer portion of this game.

Setting aside that the videos are obviously tongue-in-cheek, I can say that I have intentionally and accidentally committed crimes in game that have gone unseen. The AI doesn't make it mandatory that you are seen... there's just a fair amount of traffic along several of the trails.

As to the other point the video raises: it's fair. I do wish that the game followed the old west "rules" of self defense. I shouldn't be punished for shooting a guy that shoots at me first. Having said that, it's entirely possible that, as a known trouble-maker, I'm not going to get the benefit of the doubt from witnesses... and some of them may even by biased against me.

My solution to the second point is to not intervene in petty brawls so that I don't draw scrutiny from passerby. As a bad guy trying to be better, I'll help out someone in dire need. Most of the time it works out that I'm not Wanted. Sometimes it doesn't. I can blame a rule set that I wish was different, or I can chalk it up to my own notoriety and move along. It does do a good job of making you feel like you are, occupationally-speaking, living slightly outside the societal norm.

This. the way I see AI being funky / irational sometimes regarding crimes makes it, for me at least, more realistic.

back then, they didn't care if you where truly innocent or not. You are disturbing the peace - end of the line. want to stay alive ? then mind your own business and don't give anyone more reason to shoot you dead than they already got.

"but I was just helping..." wanna help ? stay low and keep quiet. we don't need more trouble maker.

In my opinion the real inconstancy is when you go back in a town you have a huge bounty and because time have passed, you can now say hi to the sheriff.... like really ? I'm got a $300 bounty on my sorry neck and you can't picture my face ? hell it's probably printed on your mug.

[JACKSin]

Yeah it's only right-wing news cops are glad a civilian got involved. So you shot and kill the burglar? Well that's a whole lotta paperwork I gotta fill out...

[Bealla Donna]

It's the complete opposite but okay then.

[Valorian]

Its a shame you do not like the single player, I am absolutely loving it, AI is very aggressive and take cover.

Graphics are not good they are absolutely insane on ultra 4K, you really should not put a post on to deter players from buying, especially when it is on sale and for me one of the best games I have had the pleasure to purchase

[Valorian]

I think your header in the thread DONT BUY, if you would have put the thread more constructively you might not have got the reactions you dislike, unless you are affter the reactions.

Loving the game in standalone very happy with the purchase.

[Mihai]

I think that you are full of ♥♥♥♥. Red dead and generally gta v must have one of the best AI i have seen in games.

[pike]

there are a few problems with the story , but rdr2 is possibly the best single player game i have ever played , it's up there with hl, hl2 and fnv , by the end of the game i was infested in Arthur, the online game , i like to fire it up and just ride around, it is a well made game it looks good runs good and is a pleasure to play , but thats just my opinion something that has no more significance than anyone else's , it's certainly better than cp2077 (a complete pile of slag)