Dont buy RDR2 for the single player.

[Cosmo 🐲]

My advice would be to save the money and buy the RDR2 Online standalone, and forget the single player.

The story is good, yeah, the graphics are also good, but the game AI are really broken, and have always been.

AND .... Rockstar dont care, they dont earn money by fixing the single player game.

Those of us that were stupid enough to get it for the single player are just a laughing stock. Rockstars only care are to milk players for money, and the best way to do that are the online game.

I was stupid enough to buy the game both on PS4 and PC, because i trusted that Rockstar would fix the game, and now 3 years later, i can just conclude that Rockstar falls into the same category for me as Ubisoft and Electronic arts. They dont care for their costumers, only money.

Im not buying any more games from them.

If you are wondering what im talking about, with the broken AI, there are 2 videos from "Viva la dirt league" that explains it pretty well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpUlJDovG7g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra0-SDmtX4k

[GhostyOsty]

I haven't come pass a single problem on both my Xbox and PC. Other than that the Horse AI is sometimes a little, touched. Also it seems that you haven't realised that Rockstar is releasing GTA5 once again on another generation. Like no ♥♥♥♥ they don't care.

[Cosmo 🐲]

Originally posted by GhostyOsty (SFM & PxlArt):

I haven't come pass a single problem on both my Xbox and PC. Other than that the Horse AI is sometimes a little, touched. Also it seems that you haven't realised that Rockstar is releasing GTA5 once again on another generation. Like no ♥♥♥♥ they don't care.

I guess you are lucky then, Its a well known fact that the AI reacts as in the videos above.

Have you tried to play as good guy? ( and did you watch the videos? ) I have quit the game multiple times because of the stupid AI.

[Balthazar]

Originally posted by Unknown:

My advice would be to save the money and buy the RDR2 Online standalone, and forget the single player.

The story is good, yeah, the graphics are also good, but the game AI are really broken, and have always been.

AND .... Rockstar dont care, they dont earn money by fixing the single player game.

Those of us that were stupid enough to get it for the single player are just a laughing stock. Rockstars only care are to milk players for money, and the best way to do that are the online game.

I was stupid enough to buy the game both on PS4 and PC, because i trusted that Rockstar would fix the game, and now 3 years later, i can just conclude that Rockstar falls into the same category for me as Ubisoft and Electronic arts. They dont care for their costumers, only money.

Im not buying any more games from them.

If you are wondering what im talking about, with the broken AI, there are 2 videos from "Viva la dirt league" that explains it pretty well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpUlJDovG7g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra0-SDmtX4k

Done with the rant? okay thank you ! Not all players have the same OCD as others , some finds the Ai and system good so yeah , go and take your rant to R* headquarters

[Natasha]

Online is a toxic pit with nothing good in it, i rather not play the game at all, rdr 1 had a great online community.

Even though i like pc better i have to agree that console has a more friendly community in some games like rdr1, also because rdr1 had cooperative in gangs so people had a lot of fun they had no time to think about cheating, i hope Rockstar gives us a remastered rdr 1 on pc.

[Eminem]

Rockstar should do like other publishers and purposely cut single player content and release it via paid dlcs.

Like the quest for those stone carvings etc. They could have easily left stuff like that out on release and slowly introduce it later as a paid dlc, heh

It'll fool gamers like the op, omg look at all these dlcs guys! Rockstar cares about single player!! Can't wait to start the stone carvings added content!!!

[MrBanjo]

Nah dude, game is amazing. Finally a game which makes me feel that the 40€ was worth it.

Such a huge team behind the game. All those voice actors!! immersive huge world, great sound design - different sounds depending on what you hit when you shoot, all the artwork!! and so so many small details. You even walk differently on ice. If you want an open world wild west shooter you can't get any better at the moment.

The AI is such a small complaint, it can be buggy sometimes, true, but every open world AI is... just look at Skyrim, Witcher. Which is also a great games.

EDIT: Oh and I'm pretty sure Viva la dirt league made so many videos on the game because they liked it?

[Doomed]

Originally posted by Eminem:

Rockstar should do like other publishers and purposely cut single player content and release it via paid dlcs.

Like the quest for those stone carvings etc. They could have easily left stuff like that out on release and slowly introduce it later as a paid dlc, heh

It'll fool gamers like the op, omg look at all these dlcs guys! Rockstar cares about single player!! Can't wait to start the stone carvings added content!!!

I was thinking the same thing lol. Nobody can please people with single player only brains. You give them a complete full game for one price and they cry. You give them part of the game and trickle dlc to them they think they are being treated special but cry that the dlc should be free.
Then they come here and have nothing but toxic negativity about anyone who plays a online game while they say online is toxic.
If anything, judging by comments here, I would say the single player community is the most toxic community.
The OP is right that you shouldn't waste your money on single player though. If you want to read a story buy a book and not a 60 dollar hand held guided tour of a fictional west.

[EbonHawk]

I much prefer SP and even more, I prefer a single release. Too often, I "can't wait" and I buy a game, only to have DLC released on a schedule, and I never play 1 or more, or even all of them. So, I'm in an outlier group. Give me singleplayer, and a version that contains everything in one package. None of that installment crap. I end up never playing them.

I have yet to play any of the DLC for 99% of the games that I bought before the DLCs were released. The exceptions being AC Origins, and maybe 1 or 2 others. I have dozens of games that released DLC later, and I never played them.

[Cosmo 🐲]

Originally posted by Doomed:

Originally posted by Eminem:

Rockstar should do like other publishers and purposely cut single player content and release it via paid dlcs.

Like the quest for those stone carvings etc. They could have easily left stuff like that out on release and slowly introduce it later as a paid dlc, heh

It'll fool gamers like the op, omg look at all these dlcs guys! Rockstar cares about single player!! Can't wait to start the stone carvings added content!!!

I was thinking the same thing lol. Nobody can please people with single player only brains. You give them a complete full game for one price and they cry. You give them part of the game and trickle dlc to them they think they are being treated special but cry that the dlc should be free.
Then they come here and have nothing but toxic negativity about anyone who plays a online game while they say online is toxic.
If anything, judging by comments here, I would say the single player community is the most toxic community.
The OP is right that you shouldn't waste your money on single player though. If you want to read a story buy a book and not a 60 dollar hand held guided tour of a fictional west.

Let me give you an example, and see if you understand that.

I was riding into town,
2 bandits where shooting a civilian, i shot the bandits, trying to save the guy.
I get the law on my neck, for being good guy, thats ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up.

[Doomed]

Originally posted by Unknown:

Originally posted by Doomed:

I was thinking the same thing lol. Nobody can please people with single player only brains. You give them a complete full game for one price and they cry. You give them part of the game and trickle dlc to them they think they are being treated special but cry that the dlc should be free.
Then they come here and have nothing but toxic negativity about anyone who plays a online game while they say online is toxic.
If anything, judging by comments here, I would say the single player community is the most toxic community.
The OP is right that you shouldn't waste your money on single player though. If you want to read a story buy a book and not a 60 dollar hand held guided tour of a fictional west.

Let me give you an example, and see if you can wrap your tiny brain around that.

I was riding into town,
2 bandits where shooting a civilian, i shot the bandits, trying to save the guy.
I get the law on my neck, for being good guy, thats ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up.

Let me tell you this example and see if you can wrap your tiny mind around that.
I was riding into town...and nothing like that has ever happened to me in 700 hours of play...EVER.
Hope your tiny mind can grasp that not every experience in a online game is the same and that's why close-minded people like you should stop being toxic against an entire community based on your personal experience. There's a word for folks like you in the real world.

[Cosmo 🐲]

Originally posted by Doomed:

Originally posted by Unknown:

Let me give you an example, and see if you can wrap your tiny brain around that.

I was riding into town,
2 bandits where shooting a civilian, i shot the bandits, trying to save the guy.
I get the law on my neck, for being good guy, thats ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up.

Let me tell you this example and see if you can wrap your tiny mind around that.
I was riding into town...and nothing like that has ever happened to me in 700 hours of play...EVER.
Hope your tiny mind can grasp that not every experience in a online game is the same and that's why close-minded people like you should stop being toxic against an entire community based on your personal experience. There's a word for folks like you in the real world.

And you think the videos i linked are made out of pure speculation?
Or facts?

[Luluxray]

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[Joe Cool]

Originally posted by Unknown:

If you are wondering what im talking about, with the broken AI, there are 2 videos from "Viva la dirt league" that explains it pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpUlJDovG7g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra0-SDmtX4k

You cannot be serious...

Taking two comedic videos and using them to try to imply the AI in the game is "broken" is so laughably dumb that it has left me wondering if you are one of the guys who made those videos and this thread is nothing but a way to self promote.

Originally posted by Unknown:

Let me give you an example, and see if you can wrap your tiny brain around that.

I was riding into town,
2 bandits where shooting a civilian, i shot the bandits, trying to save the guy.
I get the law on my neck, for being good guy, thats ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up.

And? This is exactly what would happen in online mode also. So then what makes the AI in single player "broken" when your scenario here plays out the exact same way online.

As far as I'm aware RDR2 is the only game in existence where you can commit a crime, the police show up, and you can dynamically talk your way out of it.

Officer: "What's going on here?"
Arthur: "I have no clue, just got here myself"
Officer: "Well alright then move along"

What's more is that your ability to talk your way out of it relies entirely on your ability to remain incognito. If you are wearing an item of clothing that is recognizable as belonging to Arthur... or you have blood on you without an animal carcass to explain it away... then you get arrested.

Hell even the option to surrender and be arrested is pretty revolutionary. Can't think of even one other game with AI advanced enough to let you do this.


Seriously comparing RDR2 single player to RDR2 online is like comparing a finely tuned 1969 Shelby Mustang GT500 (single player) to a rusted out 1969 Ford Pinto (online)

The GT500 (single player) is a well constructed masterpiece, while the Pinto (online) is a frustrating hunk of junk that does nothing but cost you more money.

[Cosmo 🐲]

Originally posted by Joe Cool:

Seriously comparing RDR2 single player to RDR2 online is like comparing a finely tuned 1969 Shelby Mustang GT500 (single player) to a rusted out 1969 Ford Pinto (online)

The GT500 (single player) is a well constructed masterpiece, while the Pinto (online) is a frustrating hunk of junk that does nothing but cost you more money.

You are the one making that comparison, not me.
I never compared the 2 game modes

[Axe]

Originally posted by Doomed:

...Hope your tiny mind can grasp that not every experience in a online game is the same and that's why close-minded people like you should stop being toxic against an entire community based on your personal experience. There's a word for folks like you in the real world.

There is nothing more tiny-minded than calling people names for not believing or enjoying the things you do.

There are names for people like you...