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Toggle aim is still broken.
I was really hoping this would've been fixed in the next update (which took way too long to come out), but it wasn't so I'm making a post about this to add attention to the issue in hopes it get addressed in the next update, though that seems unlikely at this point.

I've been told that this is an issue for any action that uses right click, not just aiming, however it is most prominent with aiming and makes toggle aim nearly unusable. When you right click to aim, within half a second to 10 seconds after the action it will randomly pull you out of aiming. There's really no reason for this, regardless of what you're doing it will consistently pull you out of aiming after a random period of time. I can count on one hand the amount of times it hasn't since the game was released on PC, that's how frequent this is.

Generally I wish there were more options for these controls, because I have no issue with holding right click to interact with NPCs and stores but prefer toggling to aim weapons, but that isn't too important when toggling doesn't even work to begin with.

There's some other big issue that have cropped up in this update, like horses not properly despawning past a certain distance from the player (which leads to your horse being on the other side of the map for 5+ minutes when you fast travel) and not being able to tab back into the game if it's in full screen, resulting in me having to use borderless for now which adds input lag, but I honestly consider this a bigger issue simply due to the fact that I used toggle aim in every game.
Last edited by Ludicrous_Speed; Aug 2, 2020 @ 9:43am
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Noxsa Aug 2, 2020 @ 9:50am 
yea toggle aim is still very broken, so as many other bugs still here, makes me wonder what the hell did they fix?
all i notice are couple more bugs, hunting wagon can't be summoned in the field no more, you actuallyu need to go get it from a stable.
don't waste money on the ledgendary feromones either 20dollar a pop, and i'm fairly 100% they aint working, tossed so many always the same text "there are no ledgendary animals nearby" yea thx game i could see that without the 20 dollar prize tag ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ R* logic.
Schnitzelbacke Aug 2, 2020 @ 10:27am 
Originally posted by Noxsa:
all i notice are couple more bugs, hunting wagon can't be summoned in the field no more, you actuallyu need to go get it from a stable.

Nope, still works.

But I'm always calling it standing on roads, so it can actually reach me, maybe that's why I experienced no difference.
Noxsa Aug 2, 2020 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by Schnitzelbacke:
Originally posted by Noxsa:
all i notice are couple more bugs, hunting wagon can't be summoned in the field no more, you actuallyu need to go get it from a stable.

Nope, still works.

But I'm always calling it standing on roads, so it can actually reach me, maybe that's why I experienced no difference.

yea not working for me, road or not, the option to pick it is grey for "oh and before you say you have a horse active, i do not" even when i try to get it out of the stable i need to trick it, stable says its summoned "witch it not" i need first to press "store" and THEN only THEN i can select it and take it out. (epic version)
Schnitzelbacke Aug 2, 2020 @ 4:33pm 
Originally posted by Noxsa:
yea not working for me, road or not, the option to pick it is grey for "oh and before you say you have a horse active, i do not" even when i try to get it out of the stable i need to trick it, stable says its summoned "witch it not" i need first to press "store" and THEN only THEN i can select it and take it out. (epic version)

You are correct, I tested it again - cannot call it either.

Super weird since I called it only 2 days ago and there was no patch since then?
MENTOR Aug 2, 2020 @ 5:15pm 
I recommend just changing to the 'hold right click to aim' setting, OP. I fought with toggle aim repeatedly since it's my preferred way to play, but I kept getting killed when the game randomly decided to drop me out of it. Of all the bugs in RDR2, it's one I really wish they'd fix.
jamesc70 Aug 2, 2020 @ 5:24pm 
That is annoying, but I wish they'd fix it so your weapons do not cycle. If I have my repeater in one slot, and hit '2' to draw it, the next time I hit '2' it cycles to the next weapon. This has gotten me killed countless times, like when a cougar appears and I want to pull out my repeater but pull out the varmint rifle instead because the game cycled the weapon in that slot.

Sure you can dump all your weapons into the storage locker now online, but I like to carry Varmint, repeater, sniper, and a shotgun.

Just locking the slots, so you always get what you want would be a huge QoL feature for me.
Ludicrous_Speed Aug 2, 2020 @ 8:44pm 
Originally posted by MENTOR:
I recommend just changing to the 'hold right click to aim' setting, OP. I fought with toggle aim repeatedly since it's my preferred way to play, but I kept getting killed when the game randomly decided to drop me out of it. Of all the bugs in RDR2, it's one I really wish they'd fix.

Yeah I've been using it for a few months now, but constantly applying pressure to the mouse screws with my aim I've found.

This might just be based on what mouse you're using as well as how used to hold aim you are, but I went back to toggle aim this update and, when it's actually working, it's a lot easier for me to hit things. Granted my aim is just ♥♥♥♥, but it's not as ♥♥♥♥ with toggle.
Namie Aug 2, 2020 @ 9:12pm 
Originally posted by Schnitzelbacke:
Originally posted by Noxsa:
yea not working for me, road or not, the option to pick it is grey for "oh and before you say you have a horse active, i do not" even when i try to get it out of the stable i need to trick it, stable says its summoned "witch it not" i need first to press "store" and THEN only THEN i can select it and take it out. (epic version)

You are correct, I tested it again - cannot call it either.

Super weird since I called it only 2 days ago and there was no patch since then?
This happens with the bounty wagon too, only fix i found is changing session and calling it before starting any kind of mission, for ex if i start a 6 targets bounty i cant summon the wagon, but if i call it first and then i start the mission its all okay, it works whenever it wants to
MENTOR Aug 2, 2020 @ 10:11pm 
Originally posted by Ludicrous Speed:
Originally posted by MENTOR:
I recommend just changing to the 'hold right click to aim' setting, OP. I fought with toggle aim repeatedly since it's my preferred way to play, but I kept getting killed when the game randomly decided to drop me out of it. Of all the bugs in RDR2, it's one I really wish they'd fix.

Yeah I've been using it for a few months now, but constantly applying pressure to the mouse screws with my aim I've found.

This might just be based on what mouse you're using as well as how used to hold aim you are, but I went back to toggle aim this update and, when it's actually working, it's a lot easier for me to hit things. Granted my aim is just ♥♥♥♥, but it's not as ♥♥♥♥ with toggle.

I've also found hitreg in the game to be a bit wonky against moving targets, which I'm sure contributes here. I also feel like, even with autoaim turned off, the game still does some small amount of aim assist. Lots of stuff going on under the hood that influences this, I wager.
Its not going to get better, this is rockstar we are talking about. Theres bugs in gta v and rdr2 that have been there since launch but they don't do bug fixes they just release more content
Last edited by Where's The Lamb Sauce; Aug 2, 2020 @ 10:17pm
Ahroovi Aug 2, 2020 @ 10:42pm 
Originally posted by Schnitzelbacke:
Originally posted by Noxsa:
all i notice are couple more bugs, hunting wagon can't be summoned in the field no more, you actuallyu need to go get it from a stable.

Nope, still works.

But I'm always calling it standing on roads, so it can actually reach me, maybe that's why I experienced no difference.
It's still broken. SOMETIMES you can call it in the field. But a lot of the time the session is bugged or something and you don't have the option to call out, it just says vehicle is being summoned permanently until you go to a stable and press store on it.
Xivinux Jul 16, 2021 @ 2:45pm 
Aaaaand its broken again
Rewis.C Sep 24, 2021 @ 1:17am 
It's an easy fix. I'm trying to post this in as many places as possible since Rockstar has refused to fix it or even acknowledge the problem. I discovered a fix yesterday when I decided to play again after a year. Just edit the "KeyMappings" file to have a double-entry of the button you want to use under "INPUT_AIM" It's in your RDR2 user folder. It's located at \Documents\Rockstar Games\Red Dead Redemption 2\Profiles\"Your Profile" It should look like this.

<Item key="INPUT_AIM">
<Item>
<Item>MOUSE_RIGHT</Item>
</Item>
<Item>
<Item>MOUSE_RIGHT</Item>
</Item>
</Item>

My toggle zoom key is the right mouse button. Don't edit anything else unless you know what you are doing. If it breaks the game delete the "KeyMappings" file and relaunch RDR2 it will generate a new one. PM me if you need help. I will help if I am around. Unfortunately, that's not very often. I hope this helps everyone.
Fluffy Starship Jan 2, 2022 @ 7:32am 
Originally posted by RewisC:
It's an easy fix. I'm trying to post this in as many places as possible since Rockstar has refused to fix it or even acknowledge the problem. I discovered a fix yesterday when I decided to play again after a year. Just edit the "KeyMappings" file to have a double-entry of the button you want to use under "INPUT_AIM" It's in your RDR2 user folder. It's located at \Documents\Rockstar Games\Red Dead Redemption 2\Profiles\"Your Profile" It should look like this.

<Item key="INPUT_AIM">
<Item>
<Item>MOUSE_RIGHT</Item>
</Item>
<Item>
<Item>MOUSE_RIGHT</Item>
</Item>
</Item>

My toggle zoom key is the right mouse button. Don't edit anything else unless you know what you are doing. If it breaks the game delete the "KeyMappings" file and relaunch RDR2 it will generate a new one. PM me if you need help. I will help if I am around. Unfortunately, that's not very often. I hope this helps everyone.

Thanks for this RewisC. I'm pretty much dependent on toggle aim, and the dialogues on horse at least were not working with it on, but your simple solution fixed my problem. Tok me 15 min to find your post, and 2 minutes to implement. I cant see how rockstar could not just fix this for us since turning on toggle aim break the game as it is now and the fix is so terribly simple.
Cryptic Jan 2, 2022 @ 10:33am 
I absolutely hate the hold to aim setting in games and if they allow me I always set it to toggle but the other day I was playing with my friend online and I noticed that whenever I'm on horseback I can't aim properly and I started looking it up and apparently this is an issue that they have known about for like a couple of years and have never fixed. Really disappointing
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