Why would you buy RDR2 on Steam instead of EPIC?

[King Hadu]

I am just curious as I have stopped buying most of my games on Steam and I buy from EPIC if I could. Reasons are as follows

1) I save money because EPIC charges developers a fair price for using their store

2) Developers Save money because EPIC charges them a fair price for using their store

3) Steam has blatantly ripped off developers to build their empire with enormous cut from the profits of their games and actually caused some companies to go bankrupt preventing us from even getting a sequel.

4) Steam is a monopoly and has gradually shown they are willing to take full advantage of that

5) Steam has conspired with Bethesda to charge people for Mods in Skyrim years ago and when people spoke out against it, Valve Employees outright banned the posting rights of those users on the entire Steam Platform.

I got RDR2 for $26 on Epic last week and I got GTAV Free aswell as World War Z Free.

EPIC games helps developers create Cross Platform Play, World War Z for example has cross play among PC and XBOX and soon it's coming to PS4.

EPIC is actively trying to make Cross Play the norm which would have the single largest impact on Fighting Games since Fighting Games die very quickly on PC Platform. They havee gone out of their way to solve the single biggest issue regarding Cross Play between Console and PC which is devs not having the money or resources to implement servers for Cross Play, EPIC is standing the cost of such a service.

You may dislike this post, however after researching and keeping a close eye on EPIC and how they have used that Fortnite money to actively benefit Gamers across the board my decision to support EPIC was an easy one.

[Glorbo Fruttodrillo]

Well before epic the cuts between the developers and the stores where fine none of them had any issues with that, but when epic store become a thing they started paying AAA developers to release their games on the epic store. About the free games there will be free games until abortnite makes money but when it dies off well. RIP EPIC (you will never be missed!).

[Noxsa]

i buy where it is cheapest that simple. i really don't care steam, epic, GoG, humble, ets..

[Skorne Tet'Zu]

I don't know anything about EPIC...and I don't feel that Steam is worth defending - or - Needs me to defend it. However... You (OP) bring up the point of how much cheaper EPIC games are compared to Steam. That just reminds me of NetFree. The internet company who believed that the Internet should be Free to everyone; and it was - Well... until it wasn't. Once they got enough accounts I believe they went up to $4.99 a month... and later to $9.99 a month. (Which, for the record, made their advertisement quite humorous.)

So Sure... EPIC may be cheaper now... but that's only because they NEED/WANT business. And while this does NOT invalidate your point; I do feel your point is not very strong if it's only temporary.

So with that; I shall continue to wait for RDR2 to drop its prices a wee bit more :). Crossed Fingers it will one day hit $20-something :).

[Noxsa]

skorne_tetzu の投稿を引用：

I don't know anything about EPIC...and I don't feel that Steam is worth defending - or - Needs me to defend it. However... You (OP) bring up the point of how much cheaper EPIC games are compared to Steam. That just reminds me of NetFree. The internet company who believed that the Internet should be Free to everyone; and it was - Well... until it wasn't. Once they got enough accounts I believe they went up to $4.99 a month... and later to $9.99 a month. (Which, for the record, made their advertisement quite humorous.)

So Sure... EPIC may be cheaper now... but that's only because they NEED/WANT business. And while this does NOT invalidate your point; I do feel your point is not very strong if it's only temporary.

So with that; I shall continue to wait for RDR2 to drop its prices a wee bit more :). Crossed Fingers it will one day hit $20-something :).

agree with you, BUT don't count on R* games to be cheap! any time soon it took years before GTA became cheap(ish)

[Skorne Tet'Zu]

Noxsa の投稿を引用：

i buy where it is cheapest that simple. i really don't care steam, epic, GoG, humble, ets..

What's life (Gaming Life) like having multiple accounts like that. I've considered it with Steam and GoG (which I've heard a very little about). A part of me feels like there would be confusion when I wanted to play a game. Or running multiple Steam-Like applications.

Thoughts?

[Skorne Tet'Zu]

Noxsa の投稿を引用：

agree with you, BUT don't count on R* games to be cheap! any time soon it took years before GTA became cheap(ish)

I know... I was a bit surprised to see this go on sale right now; at best I was expecting a holiday sale, though roughly at this price :(. But I often end up playing games that released 6 or more years ago. Some say Frugal... some say Cheap - LOL.

[Dr. Peeper]

♡ Mio Naruse ♡ の投稿を引用：

Well before epic the cuts between the developers and the stores where fine none of them had any issues with that, but when epic store become a thing they started paying AAA developers to release their games on the epic store. About the free games there will be free games until abortnite makes money but when it dies off well. RIP EPIC (you will never be missed!).

LMAO. You realize Epic owns Unreal? The engine used in a lot of things, including the latest Star Wars rides, latest slot machines, etc. They are WAY beyond just Fortnite, though that's a money maker for them.

[Noxsa]

skorne_tetzu の投稿を引用：

Noxsa の投稿を引用：

i buy where it is cheapest that simple. i really don't care steam, epic, GoG, humble, ets..

What's life (Gaming Life) like having multiple accounts like that. I've considered it with Steam and GoG (which I've heard a very little about). A part of me feels like there would be confusion when I wanted to play a game. Or running multiple Steam-Like applications.

Thoughts?

GoG is working on "get this" gamelauncher launcher, i mean you link steam to gog and the games pop up in gog launcher and so on for all of them.
if the perfect this, then soon we have one launcher GoG and steam games, epic games all will be shown inside the GoG... well so do they say. i'm more of a i'll see when it happens.
anyways.

if you ask where did i read this, was from their news mail. maybe you can find the info about it on the site who knows, when i read it i was like "yea right, that will sure work" hehe but hey who knows if it works win win right.

[Glorbo Fruttodrillo]

Dr. Peeper の投稿を引用：

♡ Mio Naruse ♡ の投稿を引用：

Well before epic the cuts between the developers and the stores where fine none of them had any issues with that, but when epic store become a thing they started paying AAA developers to release their games on the epic store. About the free games there will be free games until abortnite makes money but when it dies off well. RIP EPIC (you will never be missed!).

LMAO. You realize Epic owns Unreal? The engine used in a lot of things, including the latest Star Wars rides, latest slot machines, etc. They are WAY beyond just Fortnite, though that's a money maker for them.

And what when they own Unreal ? The developers didn't have problems with cuts before with that. About used in a lot of things when the unreal engine 4 become free there were a lot ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ games made you know that right ?

[Constantin]

Reminder that OP is a CCP funded shill

[DasWulf]

♡ Mio Naruse ♡ の投稿を引用：

Dr. Peeper の投稿を引用：

LMAO. You realize Epic owns Unreal? The engine used in a lot of things, including the latest Star Wars rides, latest slot machines, etc. They are WAY beyond just Fortnite, though that's a money maker for them.

And what when they own Unreal ? The developers didn't have problems with cuts before with that. About used in a lot of things when the unreal engine 4 become free there were a lot ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ games made you know that right ?

Actually developers did have problems with the royalties. The 30% bit that Valve takes is just an old carry over from the usual royalty fee seen across the industry. It did not really take digital distribution into account.

Developers became beholden to big publishers, the publishers took all the benefits and the developers would only get paid for the work they have done. It was not unusual for developers to be out of a job after every game release because they never did get those royalties. Now a days the cost of development has skyrocketed, especially for AAA games.

One thing digital distribution brought to the table was the ability for developers to finally bypass the big publishers and bring their games directly to the consumer.

So yes developers had a problem with the cuts and its become even more problematic as the cost of development went up (not to mention the cost of living and devaluing of currency as a contributing factor). The liberating aspect of self publishing has only made this more open and visible. Epic knew this which is why the focused heavily on shaking up the industry's dated royalty scheme.

[joviper]

Constantin の投稿を引用：

Reminder that OP is a CCP funded shill

Thought it was a joke, then I looked into Op's post history.

[CT-99 STRIKER]

it doesn't matter......all will require rockstar launcher and server, so simply buy where is cheaper and don't fall for "loyal to whatever store/company" think about your consumer interests as companies dont care about you, only about your $$$ so BUY WHEREVER IS CHEAPER.

[Glorbo Fruttodrillo]

DasWulf の投稿を引用：

♡ Mio Naruse ♡ の投稿を引用：

And what when they own Unreal ? The developers didn't have problems with cuts before with that. About used in a lot of things when the unreal engine 4 become free there were a lot ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ games made you know that right ?

Actually developers did have problems with the royalties. The 30% bit that Valve takes is just an old carry over from the usual royalty fee seen across the industry. It did not really take digital distribution into account.

Developers became beholden to big publishers, the publishers took all the benefits and the developers would only get paid for the work they have done. It was not unusual for developers to be out of a job after every game release because they never did get those royalties. Now a days the cost of development has skyrocketed, especially for AAA games.

One thing digital distribution brought to the table was the ability for developers to finally bypass the big publishers and bring their games directly to the consumer.

So yes developers had a problem with the cuts and its become even more problematic as the cost of development went up (not to mention the cost of living and devaluing of currency as a contributing factor). The liberating aspect of self publishing has only made this more open and visible. Epic knew this which is why the focused heavily on shaking up the industry's dated royalty scheme.

That is mostly on them if they can't handle the development of the product they will get screwed.
And you don't need mil $$$ to make a game that actually is good.

[Cooperal]

No company that successful is going to be without its problems. Even Epic. As far as I'm concerned Valve has played one of the most vital roles in the popularity of PC gaming over the last couple of decades.

Steam put digital distribution years ahead of where it might have otherwise been. Had Steam never been made, the other platforms wouldn't be quite what they are now either. They might still not have been made yet. A much worse company could have come in and set a standard before anyone else could (see: console marketplaces, Games For Windows Live).

Epic allowed the development of their Unreal Tournament reboot to die for Fortnite. Pretty callous move if you ask me. Tells me that my personal interests are not at heart.