How bad are cheaters in online currently?

[Zach]

I really want to buy this game for PC but don't want to play with cheaters every session I join in online.

[2bael]

the cheaters arent that bad, you just have to live with them. i find some of them quite amusing, the ones i met just ignored me and tried to grind

[Silhouette]

This game’s “cheating-situation” is very similar to GTA Online’s: It’s pretty bad.

People using mod menus will teleport you around the map, instantly blow you up, be immune from receiving damage, etc.

I normally run into one or two cheaters each night.

Fortunately, if you do discover a cheater, you can switch to a new lobby.

[Soren]

Betrayy님이 먼저 게시:

FINESSE MASTER님이 먼저 게시:

all chinese hackers everywhere, they never get banned because rockstar is a chinese company

Rockstar is an american company idiot

Well, I believe what the statement is really saying is that they have a vested interest in pleasing the huge Chinese gaming market and as such will cow tail to any demands the CCP might have about their products, even if those demands might contradict more modern western values.

I could be wrong though.

Edit: It's hard to say whether the comment is made in satire though. As the blaming of all hackers on "chinese people" can sometimes be edgy bait or can sometimes just be the actual belief of someone based on a small number of personal experiences.

[Betrayy]

BK201Soren님이 먼저 게시:

Betrayy님이 먼저 게시:

Rockstar is an american company idiot

Well, I believe what the statement is really saying is that they have a vested interest in pleasing the huge Chinese gaming market and as such will cow tail to any demands the CCP might have about their products, even if those demands might contradict more modern western values.

I could be wrong though.

Edit: It's hard to say whether the comment is made in satire though. As the blaming of all hackers on "chinese people" can sometimes be edgy bait or can sometimes just be the actual belief of someone based on a small number of personal experiences.

hes just a troll

[Ben Aordur]

Some cheater just like to blow me up today... explosion under my feets, death, respawn, explosion, death.....

Is there any R* guys to carry of this ?

[Girlgamer87]

Ben Aordur님이 먼저 게시:

Some cheater just like to blow me up today... explosion under my feets, death, respawn, explosion, death.....

Is there any R* guys to carry of this ?

Happened to me, these 4 disconnected after i took screenshot, reported them via Social Club
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2140991407

[Gnome Toker]

Seem to have a weird encounter with some cheaters that just killed me over and over using random explosions that appeared on me. All while just trying to get some meat to the butcher. fun.

[MAXE]

PoisonBlade님이 먼저 게시:

This game’s “cheating-situation” is very similar to GTA Online’s: It’s pretty bad.

People using mod menus will teleport you around the map, instantly blow you up, be immune from receiving damage, etc.

I normally run into one or two cheaters each night.

Fortunately, if you do discover a cheater, you can switch to a new lobby.

would be better if the game client would kick/ban cheaters instant instead !

[Finwe Uwetil]

Gnome Toker님이 먼저 게시:

Seem to have a weird encounter with some cheaters that just killed me over and over using random explosions that appeared on me. All while just trying to get some meat to the butcher. fun.

Yes that's been in-game since the beginning, kinda like feature, sadly. It happens less lately, but mod-menus kids still pretty active.

[Catalyst]

i've seen one. haven't played a ton but i've played enough

[Soren]

M-A-X-E ™님이 먼저 게시:

would be better if the game client would kick/ban cheaters instant instead !

Problem is instant bans the moment you detect the cheating makes it very easy to determine how the game is detecting your are cheating.

The cheat makers then take the information of how they are being caught and try to design their hacks around the flags.

If you increase the time from when the cheat is detected to when the person is banned, the cheat software maker is less likely to know what, if any one part of what they were doing got them banned. What you really need for any anti-cheat to be feasible is lots of human moderation in between to throw hack makers off. Humans banning them at random times, and you don't tell the cheater it was a manual ban either. I'm talking mid-game moderation banning on the spot and saying it was the anti-cheat, not a post game ban that was manually reviewed by an enforcement team. Then the hack maker starts drawing false correlations and causations between his ban and what code in software he thinks was detected (sorta like an anti-vaxxer) when it was just a human making a judgement call.

[Der Vater]

3 time was attacked from cheater today, last time - for 1 minute. But basically - it can be no cheater 2-3 weeks along, now bad time - cheater are unbanned after 30 days

[Joe Cool]

ZachFFR님이 먼저 게시:

How bad are cheaters in online currently?

This question will produce a wide range of answers simply based on the fact that some people encounter more cheaters than others. (especially if you take geographical location into account as there are more cheaters in certain areas of the world)


All you really need to know are two simple facts.

Fact 1) RDR2 uses the same peer to peer networking system that GTAV used

Fact 2) It is completely 100% impossible to block cheating on peer to peer connections.


This means that most cheaters are able to cheat for hundreds (if not thousands) of hours before their ban, and even then they're back within minutes on a new account to cheat some more.

[Soren]

I mean, I'll be perfectly honest. I ran across 0 cheaters in my time on xbox 1. Probably had like 1000+ hours online in that version of that game. There were exploiters in that time. People who glitched under bridges to shoot people through buildings. People who were invincible to guns because a hitreg server error. But never a hack using cheater.

Yeah, the auto-aim gameplay of controllers for GTA specific games probably annoys people. But if you want a relatively cheater free environment, consoles are the way to go. I booted the game back up earlier in 2021, I got bored real quick like mind you, but ancedotally, there were still no cheaters in my time re-exploring the game. Battlefield 1 is in the same boat. You read steam forums, nothing but cheaters (which stops me from buying the game). I play the xbox version in 2021, 0 cheaters on the non-crossplay servers.

Maybe PC players should consider console versions of games (with no crossplay or optional crossplay) when they want relatively cheat free environments. I play exclusively on my PC these days. But I can't imagine playing RDO or Bf1 here when I read these steam versions. I'd rather pay the xbox live gold and boot up my old x1.

[Starbarian]

BK201Soren님이 먼저 게시:

I mean, I'll be perfectly honest. I ran across 0 cheaters in my time on xbox 1. Probably had like 1000+ hours online in that version of that game. There were exploiters in that time. People who glitched under bridges to shoot people through buildings. People who were invincible to guns because a hitreg server error. But never a hack using cheater.

Yeah, the auto-aim gameplay of controllers for GTA specific games probably annoys people. But if you want a relatively cheater free environment, consoles are the way to go. I booted the game back up earlier in 2021, I got bored real quick like mind you, but ancedotally, there were still no cheaters in my time re-exploring the game. Battlefield 1 is in the same boat. You read steam forums, nothing but cheaters (which stops me from buying the game). I play the xbox version in 2021, 0 cheaters on the non-crossplay servers.

Maybe PC players should consider console versions of games (with no crossplay or optional crossplay) when they want relatively cheat free environments. I play exclusively on my PC these days. But I can't imagine playing RDO or Bf1 here when I read these steam versions. I'd rather pay the xbox live gold and boot up my old x1.

My Solution is just switch to other games. There are mmos that are free from cheaters, no subscription needed, and no pay-to-win BS.