About trains... am I missing something?

[iMatrix7]

So I robbed my first train (not talking about any mission).

Game said train robberies are pretty lucrative, so I tried to do it once, even if I'm trying to be "a good guy".
Well, I just finished it, and I've to say it not worth it at all. I tried to loot everything I found on the train, also from passengers, but I made less then 100$, but my bounty went from around 90$ to around 200$.

I really feel that I missed something there.. am I?

[Medicles]

No, you dont miss anything. The best way to get money in this game, is by doing the main missions. Nothing else will get you this much, even if you rob a whole town. It may get more lucrative the later you are in the game, but frankly, money isnt that important to begin with. I am currently in chapter three and have yet to find a reason to farm money.

No need to buy weapons, food or ammunition. The only time i spent money is for arrows and horse revivers, clearing bounties i get for doing main missions and upgrading the camp. Thats about it and the main missions give more than enough to cover all of it.

I red that a specific treasure map can get you up to 1000 bucks by finding two gold bars though, and can be done very early into the game, but again, i dont see much of a reason to do it, especially because selling gold bars can only be done when you have the specific fence unlocked and that also happens quite late into the game.

[Vyrex]

There are different type of trains i once robbed a high end train with 3 safe net me around 250-300 bucks i think, those are the purple type of wagons with like those fan on the ceiling those rich people also give you like around 10bucks with some other gems per person. If you stop the train on a bridge, tunnel or some cliff cops never show up and you wont get a bounty. Sure its not the best way to earn money but its pretty fun to rob it in style.

[Deformerad Dallarydsbo]

Originally posted by Medicles:

No, you dont miss anything. The best way to get money in this game, is by doing the main missions. Nothing else will get you this much, even if you rob a whole town. It may get more lucrative the later you are in the game, but frankly, money isnt that important to begin with. I am currently in chapter three and have yet to find a reason to farm money.

No need to buy weapons, food or ammunition. The only time i spent money is for arrows and horse revivers, clearing bounties i get for doing main missions and upgrading the camp. Thats about it and the main missions give more than enough to cover all of it.

I red that a specific treasure map can get you up to 1000 bucks by finding two gold bars though, and can be done very early into the game, but again, i dont see much of a reason to do it, especially because selling gold bars can only be done when you have the specific fence unlocked and that also happens quite late into the game.

^ Pretty much this, money is useless as playing the main missions will earn you enough money to fully upgrade all your weapons aswell as get a good race horse.

[Claus]

Not entirely true, hunting/fishing can make you plenty plus some gold bars so easy to get. But yes trains should give you thousands for the trouble otherwise there's no point in doing it, a lot of things in the game is this way and it kinds makes the game as a whole fall short, to me a game can be too story focused like this.

Having guns and other things locked behind a story is generally a bad idea, it allows you to do the game only one way, the way it was designed, leaves no room for a second playthrough unless you want to keep doing the same stuff.

I've done 2x 100% playthroughs with all companion gifts and gold medals and all crafts etc, the second time was not anywhere near the fun i had the first time.

I would say the game offers one solid playthrough, other than that its online which sucks compared to the first game.

So yeah, the game is kinda overrated, the only reason why i allow it to be so is i am a big fan of western games, i mean how many good western games can you mention besides the rdr franchise, i grew up with spaghetti westerns back in the 80's so its hard to disappoint me with a western game.

[la sanie des siècles]

Originally posted by Claus:

Not entirely true, hunting/fishing can make you plenty plus some gold bars so easy to get. But yes trains should give you thousands for the trouble otherwise there's no point in doing it, a lot of things in the game is this way and it kinds makes the game as a whole fall short, to me a game can be too story focused like this.

Having guns and other things locked behind a story is generally a bad idea, it allows you to do the game only one way, the way it was designed, leaves no room for a second playthrough unless you want to keep doing the same stuff.

I've done 2x 100% playthroughs with all companion gifts and gold medals and all crafts etc, the second time was not anywhere near the fun i had the first time.

I would say the game offers one solid playthrough, other than that its online which sucks compared to the first game.

That's pretty much R* game design, didn't evolve in years, sure is open-world, but freedom pretty much doesn't exist.

Not that i think it's wrong or anything, i've bought all of their games since GTA: Vice City, but they could surely improve on that aspect, you can keep a good narrative and character development, and still give more than one or in the best scenario (RDR2) two ways to deal with a mission.

[NeoTheMatrix]

😂 ride to head city that saint one, don't remember the exact name but there u can get money, also loose it very fast, because little scums will hit u in head and rob u

My money is about 800$

1) hunting gives u from 2-90$ based on skin or legendarity ...
2) bounty hunting ( after this i aint alowed in that first city 😂) - 20-60$ based on how stages and how mad is hunted one...
3) fishing - legendary fish is like hunting -60$
4) train roberies -100 to 500$ ( i get ~15 from passenger and 3 safes :50 each )
5) helping anybody -helped some guy in forest, later riding tru city he just gifted me any gun i wanted ...:550$

[Claus]

Originally posted by rats can smoke:

Originally posted by Claus:

Not entirely true, hunting/fishing can make you plenty plus some gold bars so easy to get. But yes trains should give you thousands for the trouble otherwise there's no point in doing it, a lot of things in the game is this way and it kinds makes the game as a whole fall short, to me a game can be too story focused like this.

Having guns and other things locked behind a story is generally a bad idea, it allows you to do the game only one way, the way it was designed, leaves no room for a second playthrough unless you want to keep doing the same stuff.

I've done 2x 100% playthroughs with all companion gifts and gold medals and all crafts etc, the second time was not anywhere near the fun i had the first time.

I would say the game offers one solid playthrough, other than that its online which sucks compared to the first game.

That's pretty much R* game design, didn't evolve in years, sure is open-world, but freedom pretty much doesn't exist.

Not that i think it's wrong or anything, i've bought all of their games since GTA: Vice City, but they could surely improve on that aspect, you can keep a good narrative and character development, and still give more than one or in the best scenario (RDR2) two ways to deal with a mission.

Yeah, if they improved on that aspect i believe we could be in for one hell of a game, it still is game of the year for me though, i'll give it that.

[Joe Cool]

There's a trick to getting away with robbing a train without getting a bounty.

Step 1) Put together an "outlaw" outfit and store it on your horse. (it's best to use a mask, but if you don't have one just be sure to always wear a bandanna with it) - Make sure to also have your regular clothes stored on your horse (so you can switch back to them - very important)

Step 2) When you find a train, switch to your "outlaw" outfit (make sure your face is covered!) and ride up alongside it to jump on board (at least 3-4 cars up from the caboose) Once on board whistle for your horse to make him follow the train.

Step 3) Start robbing people while keeping an eye on your minimap. As soon as you see the two red dots appear at the front and back of the train, that's your cue to leave. At this point whistle for your horse again and quickly make your way back up to the top of the train.

Step 4) Once on top of the train, look for your horse. He should be coming up alongside the train. Jump from the train onto his back and ride out of the wanted circle as quickly as possible. Once you're outside the circle (and the wanted meter is going down) switch to your regular clothes and remove the mask/bandanna.


At this point if any lawmen spot you they will most likely ignore you, and if they don't you can almost always bluff your way past them with the "defuse" option. = No bounty.


You can't clean the entire train out (for that you have to hit the train while it's in the tunnel - so lawmen can't reach you while you rob it) but I can usually get away with robbing two whole cars full of people without a bounty.


Just take the loot to a fence for easy money (Tip: hang on to the most expensive stuff like gold bars and jewelry bags until you reach the epilogue)



The main thing is to make sure you have everything about your "outlaw" outfit unique. Even having the same gun holster or hat can be enough to get you recognized.

And of course make sure your guns are put away by the time the lawmen spot you, and you can't have any blood on you (unless you have a dead animal on the back of your horse)

[NexusChild]

The best way to get money in my opinion is by doing treasure hunting. You get 2 gold bars every time and that equals to 1000$. There are 5 treasure maps so that will probably be enough for everything that you want to buy.

The first one you get is the Jack Hall Gang Treasure, which you need to find a "explorer" guy that sells the map to you for 10$. The guy is a bit to the left of flatneck station.

[NeoTheMatrix]

Originally posted by NexusChild:

The best way to get money in my opinion is by doing treasure hunting. You get 2 gold bars every time and that equals to 1000$. There are 5 treasure maps so that will probably be enough for everything that you want to buy.

The first one you get is the Jack Hall Gang Treasure, which you need to find a "explorer" guy that sells the map to you for 10$. The guy is a bit to the left of flatneck station.

2 gold bars? my game has 3 gold bars...

[NexusChild]

Originally posted by 𝕹𝖊𝖔-𝕽𝕾𝕿:

Originally posted by NexusChild:

The best way to get money in my opinion is by doing treasure hunting. You get 2 gold bars every time and that equals to 1000$. There are 5 treasure maps so that will probably be enough for everything that you want to buy.

The first one you get is the Jack Hall Gang Treasure, which you need to find a "explorer" guy that sells the map to you for 10$. The guy is a bit to the left of flatneck station.

2 gold bars? my game has 3 gold bars...

Ah, ok. Well, last time i played this game was on console so i dont remember the details 100% but the first treasure is 2 gold bars (that is what i got). I have not done the other ones yet on pc.

[F A B L E D]

When doing crimes make sure you wear a outfit that no one has seen before, and a mask that covers your entire face. If they don't recognize you, you wont get a bounty.

[Vyrex]

Originally posted by F A B L E D:

When doing crimes make sure you wear a outfit that no one has seen before, and a mask that covers your entire face. If they don't recognize you, you wont get a bounty.

Theres actually no difference betwen full mask and bandana they work both the same. Thee key is that no cops see you otherwise they will always know its Arthur.

[^1R^7ocky^1R^7ocketeer]

Trains are supposed to be the most lucrative way of making money besides banks (200-500 net earnings per run depending on amount of passengers and RNG content of loot containers). I can't tell since i have yet to indulge in those activities and also because i wan't to play a good cowboy the first time around. You might wan't to watch this tutorial with a somewhat exploitative way of robbing a train on a specific route that involves a long bridge. The bridge helps to avoid the law since their path finding is too "_"etarded to find a way to reach a train on a bridge. That lets you rob the train clean without having to worry about time because of the law swarming you after a while. The video is more than a year old so don't blame me if the cops have found a way to reach the train by now but i suspect not :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjObZWceVHo

[F A B L E D]

Originally posted by Vyrex:

Originally posted by F A B L E D:

When doing crimes make sure you wear a outfit that no one has seen before, and a mask that covers your entire face. If they don't recognize you, you wont get a bounty.

Theres actually no difference betwen full mask and bandana they work both the same. Thee key is that no cops see you otherwise they will always know its Arthur.

No there is a difference between full face mask and bandana.