Unpacking time

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Come cry here if your unpack time is longer than an hour lol

[generalmartock]

Up to 3 1/2 hours unpacking time so far......Wow...What a Feckin Mess this is so far, at this rate i'll have to wait till next week to play the damn thing.

[[SK] Kaldaien]

So.... I'm curious now. Since this whole thing only took 15 minutes on my system (Ryzen 9 3900x, 2x RAID0 NVMe PCIe4 SSDs, 32 GiB DDR4-4400@3800):

1. Do any of you (with excessive unpack times) consider your systems high-end?
2. Do you find games that stream textures (i.e. Open World) tend to stutter?

I know that my hardware is beyond what's necessary for gaming (this is my development machine), but am dumbfounded by just how slow this whole thing is going for some users. The difference is kind of like what you'd expect between 2 machines 10 years apart in age, not systems that meet the requirements to play this game.

[spicyLEGO]

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So.... I'm curious now. Since this whole thing only took 15 minutes on my system (Ryzen 9 3900x, 2x RAID0 NVMe PCIe4 SSDs, 32 GiB DDR4-4400@3800):

1. Do any of you (with excessive unpack times) consider your systems high-end?
2. Do you find games that stream textures (i.e. Open World) tend to stutter?

I know that my hardware is beyond what's necessary for gaming (this is my development machine), but am dumbfounded by just how slow this whole thing is going for some users. The difference is kind of like what you'd expect between 2 machines 10 years apart in age, not systems that meet the requirements to play this game.

weird flex

[[SK] Kaldaien]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Spicy LEGO:

Diposting pertama kali oleh SK Kaldaien:

So.... I'm curious now. Since this whole thing only took 15 minutes on my system (Ryzen 9 3900x, 2x RAID0 NVMe PCIe4 SSDs, 32 GiB DDR4-4400@3800):

1. Do any of you (with excessive unpack times) consider your systems high-end?
2. Do you find games that stream textures (i.e. Open World) tend to stutter?

I know that my hardware is beyond what's necessary for gaming (this is my development machine), but am dumbfounded by just how slow this whole thing is going for some users. The difference is kind of like what you'd expect between 2 machines 10 years apart in age, not systems that meet the requirements to play this game.

weird flex

That wasn't intended as such. I may not be well known in this particular community, but have several dozen performance optimization mods to my name. You may use Google if for some reason you do not believe me, I won't be making a big deal of it.

Performance is always rattling around in the back of my mind, and I'd like to know whether it's storage or CPU that's causing the disparity here. Even the worst performing games that I've worked on haven't had this big a spread in reported performance between users.

[bigbenisdaman]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh SK Kaldaien:

So.... I'm curious now. Since this whole thing only took 15 minutes on my system (Ryzen 9 3900x, 2x RAID0 NVMe PCIe4 SSDs, 32 GiB DDR4-4400@3800):

1. Do any of you (with excessive unpack times) consider your systems high-end?
2. Do you find games that stream textures (i.e. Open World) tend to stutter?

I know that my hardware is beyond what's necessary for gaming (this is my development machine), but am dumbfounded by just how slow this whole thing is going for some users. The difference is kind of like what you'd expect between 2 machines 10 years apart in age, not systems that meet the requirements to play this game.

weird flex

But ok, whatever makes him sleep better.

Prob also one of the ones bragging on how great his rig is, must be his first build

[Pragmatic Tornado]

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weird flex

That wasn't intended as such. I may not be well known in this particular community, but have several dozen performance optimization mods to my name. You may use Google if for some reason you do not believe me, I won't be making a big deal of it.

Performance is always rattling around in the back of my mind, and I'd like to know whether it's storage or CPU that's causing the disparity here. Even the worst performing games that I've worked on haven't had this big a spread in reported performance between users.

For my part, it took around 25 mins. That's on an NVMe M.2 SSD (single, removed the raid 0 as it had very little effect according to CrystalDiskMark). I monitored with task manager, and noticed that it seemed to hog the CPU more than the disk. Due to the decompression, no doubt.

CPU is an i7-9750H (6/12 laptop CPU). CPU would often stay at 100% for a while.

Fairly sure it would have been faster on my desktop, but not sure by how much. Desktop has an i7 8700K, and maybe a slightly faster M.2 drive.

[Necromancin]

MAN soo many 2010 computers I swear, you people need to update ur shiz! Any thing that uses sata6 is garbage... NVME or nothing , it's almost 2020 get off the sata6 bussss

[Michael]

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MAN soo many 2010 computers I swear, you people need to update ur shiz! Any thing that uses sata6 is garbage... NVME or nothing , it's almost 2020 get off the sata6 bussss

That's like saying you shouldn't play old games because they are old. Like playing dota 2.

[Level 9 Hamslayer]

My unpacking finished within a few minutes tops but I think it was like 30s so here's some F's for you guys: f f f f f f f f f f f f f

[[SK] Kaldaien]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Pragmatic Tornado:

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That wasn't intended as such. I may not be well known in this particular community, but have several dozen performance optimization mods to my name. You may use Google if for some reason you do not believe me, I won't be making a big deal of it.

Performance is always rattling around in the back of my mind, and I'd like to know whether it's storage or CPU that's causing the disparity here. Even the worst performing games that I've worked on haven't had this big a spread in reported performance between users.

For my part, it took around 25 mins. That's on an NVMe M.2 SSD (single, removed the raid 0 as it had very little effect according to CrystalDiskMark). I monitored with task manager, and noticed that it seemed to hog the CPU more than the disk. Due to the decompression, no doubt.

CPU is an i7-9750H (6/12 laptop CPU). CPU would often stay at 100% for a while.

Fairly sure it would have been faster on my desktop, but not sure by how much. Desktop has an i7 8700K, and maybe a slightly faster M.2 drive.

Ah, seems to be CPU related then. I don't know whether Steam decompresses using multiple threads, but that does look like a possibility. I think people are putting too much emphasis on disk throughput. A slow disk might bottleneck a fast CPU, but I think most people are already CPU-bound. In that case, considering reports of 3+ hour unpacks, it's good the engine uses Vulkan / D3D12 or those CPUs might not be happy unpacking AND playing the game :)

[[SK] Kaldaien]

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weird flex

But ok, whatever makes him sleep better.

Prob also one of the ones bragging on how great his rig is, must be his first build :awyea::awyea:

No, you are mistaken. I rarely give out my specs unless relevant to discussion. My first build was a 386 DX (woo! 32-bit), so we're close, just off by about 30 years :)

[Michael]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh bigbenisdaman:

But ok, whatever makes him sleep better.

Prob also one of the ones bragging on how great his rig is, must be his first build :awyea::awyea:

No, you are mistaken. I rarely give out my specs unless relevant to discussion. My first build was a 386 DX (woo! 32-bit), so we're close, just off by about 30 years :)

First computer I had was a 386 laptop... I didn't games on the PC until i got a pentium and that was my first desktop, that 2MB video card rocked...

[Pragmatic Tornado]

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No, you are mistaken. I rarely give out my specs unless relevant to discussion. My first build was a 386 DX (woo! 32-bit), so we're close, just off by about 30 years :)

First computer I had was a 386 laptop... I didn't games on the PC until i got a pentium and that was my first desktop, that 2MB video card rocked...

Might be mistaken, but I think my first one was a 286 actually. With a 5.25" floppy drive and no hard drive at all. Had 2 games for it, and they were awesome. Gato (u-boat sim) and Impossible Mission.

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For my part, it took around 25 mins. That's on an NVMe M.2 SSD (single, removed the raid 0 as it had very little effect according to CrystalDiskMark). I monitored with task manager, and noticed that it seemed to hog the CPU more than the disk. Due to the decompression, no doubt.

CPU is an i7-9750H (6/12 laptop CPU). CPU would often stay at 100% for a while.

Fairly sure it would have been faster on my desktop, but not sure by how much. Desktop has an i7 8700K, and maybe a slightly faster M.2 drive.

Ah, seems to be CPU related then. I don't know whether Steam decompresses using multiple threads, but that does look like a possibility. I think people are putting too much emphasis on disk throughput. A slow disk might bottleneck a fast CPU, but I think most people are already CPU-bound. In that case, considering reports of 3+ hour unpacks, it's good the engine uses Vulkan / D3D12 or those CPUs might not be happy unpacking AND playing the game :)

Looks like it, yeah. I would have bought the same laptop with an i9-9980HK, but sadly they were not available in my country. At any rate, it's benched better in some games than laptops with i9-9900K, so apart from some decent virtualization environments which I sometimes run, I wouldn't have benefited much.

[bigbenisdaman]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh bigbenisdaman:

But ok, whatever makes him sleep better.

Prob also one of the ones bragging on how great his rig is, must be his first build

No, you are mistaken. I rarely give out my specs unless relevant to discussion. My first build was a 386 DX (woo! 32-bit), so we're close, just off by about 30 years :)

Your post history shows differantly, but whatever you say.

Back to topic, I had paused my download this morning and when I resumed a few min. later I believe Steam unpacked it. Only about 70 gigs downloadd but after not even 5 min of disk usage and high cpu usage on this laptop it continued downloading.