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I think there's some confusion here judging by this reply and your other posts DXWarlock. The OP is talking about single player, not online, so the game clearly knows who the aggressor is - the AI in this case.
That's the thing, I didn't aim my gun, I didn't point it at him or provoke him, I just shot my gun right when he was behind me, and HE starts shooting me, while my back is still turned!
My goal, like I said 10 times by now, was the animal, I was hunting for an animal, scoped in, and shot. My first reaction after the shot, wasn't to look behind or anything, I went for the carcas, but before I even made 1 step forward, the dude was pumping me with bullets.
Just to make it 100% clear to everyone, I was not the first to fire at any of the targets. Unless you call my shot for the animal the first shot, then yes, in the whole situation, the first shot was made by me, at an animal. The first person out of all 4 targets to take damage, was me, in both cases.
I just wanna point it out again, I was scoped in/zoomed in, cause my target was quite far away!
Go away, nobody likes you
I don't know if they implemented ones that are somewhat mentally unstable and not meant to handle a gun, e.g. an NPC, that is "frightened" by a gunshot and then acts crazy.
My best guess is, to hunt in areas, where NPC's don't travel that often.
Since animals are also spooked by them, this is usually not too hard to follow.
Altho the other times it did happen, it went something like this. I got bow and arrow, my target is a bird on a rock, I'm aiming at the bird, but the NPC is within my screen. I know you can argue and say "well you're aiming at the npc" and no, I'm aiming at a small bird, and the npc happens to be in the frame, but my bow isn't even close enough to aim at him, you could say that he is around 40-50 degree off the position of my aim.
And yeah it might seem as if I'm being hostile, but if what people say is true, about the "if npc fires first, then you lose no honor" then that's total bs, every time that happened, I always lost honor, so I just hogtie people and leave em. It's not like I'm deliberately trying to provoke the npc's in game, hell I don't need to try, all that I need to do is just let some random walk into me and they get hostile cause they can't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ walk properly. But like cmon, if you make the npc's so easily offended, then allow people to not lose honor when it's self defense...
Damn just now I was going inside the saloon, and a dude walked into me (random encounter) I tried to defuse the situation, but I couldn't target him, because it kept targeting the people close to him or the poker people... so he just throws himself at me and starts punching me... I hit him back. In self defense, he hit me fist! HE walked into ME! Because it was a random encounter you know, there was this tiny animation thing. And I lose honor for beating him up? I didn't kill! Or anything, otherwise I would've gotten reported to the law.. But I didn't, no wanted, nothing... just lost honor. I was at cap honor (level 6 cause not far into the story yet) and I lost the level. It took me 4 or 5 I don't remember +honor pop ups, to get back to my cap (level 6)!! So let's say I lost 20 honor for beating him... that means, greeting people gives 4-5 honor! And you get it only after you greet what, 4-5 people? 1 self defense knock out, not kill just knock out = 20-25 times you being nice...
1 - 25?
(just so we clear, I don't quite know the honor number's that was all just an example!)
Yeah, yeah, it's easier to greet people blah, blah, blah, it's fast etc etc..
I don't mind that they become hostile or anything, it really does make the game feel more, realistic and such, but there should be a way to gain honor as fast as you lose it if it's so damn easy to lose honor! Because if you happen to get in a bar fight and the dude has 2 friends, that means you will lose a whole lot of honor in seconds, and it will take you anything from 5 to 10 min to get it all back...
I guess the game interpreted you pushing a button to walk as you walking into the NPC, not the other way round and yeah, if you only beat people up, they don't die, if you wait long enough, you can see them stand up bruised and battered and trying to get away.
However, if you loot them while they're unconscious, it's Theft, so look out to not hold the E key with unconscious people around while in a saloon :D
In my experience, the small things are just this, small things.
Really help strangers e.g. when you see a woman or such asking for a ride because they broke their ankle or their horse died or free kidnapped people, these deeds grant you larger honor increases.
And I think you don't need to have maximum honor to get the good ending.
they are crack head psychos.
that ai needs to be toned down about 50 levels.
Thats the thing tho, you see, I didn't hold the W, because it was a mini cutscene, you know how when you do a certain action, like skinning or camp chores. you press it, then your character is locked in the animation, where you have no control over it. And it was the exact same thing there. Soon as arthur put his hand on the saloon door, I lost control over him, because I did see the guy drunkenly walk forward, and I was pressing left, but arthur kept going forward, so I stopped pressing the "go key" and he kept going by himself until the dude bumps into me.
And I know about the looting stuff, not only do you lose honor but you also get wanted if they spot and report you.
Okay, tell me how I can stop a bar fight, when a dude is first of all, blocking my path cause he is standing at the door, while throwing punches at me which makes your character stagger, on top of not being able to run because you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ indoors!!! So if you figure a way to stop a bar fight without knocking or getting knocked out please tell me, I'll make sure to use that.
The other examples I mentioned, isn't me losing honor, it's me giving other examples where similar ♥♥♥♥ happens, where the damn npc's get aggressive for no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reason, or because THEY, can't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ walk properly and walk into me.. Tell me I'm wrong, tell me that you never, ever had a single npc totally be braindead, walk into you, and the start a fight with you!
There's so many time's that happened. And I assuming its a random encounter, think "oh shoot, I need to take the dude out before he kills me" But nope! It was a dumb npc pathing that doesn't seem to work half the time and you get the blame for it by losing honor, AND getting wanted. I reloaded so many times because of ♥♥♥♥ like this
Who said I was talking about online?
Maybe it's not an issue in online, but I'm talking about the story mode
I bring back 6 dead bad guys and I lost 20% of honor......WHAT?!
Are you implying a sheriff in old west that captures everyone and brings in them, vs one that kills them all, would have the same reputation in the community?
You didn't say you were talking about Story mode either.... way to be confusing bud.