Butchers gone

[Spud]

All butchers vanished from the server, have a lot of perfect hides I need to sell, will they still be there if I log off?

[BagOfBones-21403]

Nope, you;re **** if you have pelts/carcasses to sell and the butchers disappear.
Happened to me several times as well and I've submitted a ticket for it as well.
Once I was, literally, in the process of selling my stuff when he vanished before my eyes.

It'll be a long time, if ever, before I'll make any in-game purchase with all these online bugs, griefers and cheaters

[Spud]

Originally posted by BagOfBones#21403:

Nope, you;re **** if you have pelts/carcasses to sell and the butchers disappear.
Happened to me several times as well and I've submitted a ticket for it as well.
Once I was, literally, in the process of selling my stuff when he vanished before my eyes.

It'll be a long time, if ever, before I'll make any in-game purchase with all these online bugs, griefers and cheaters

sad, I killed my first grizzly too, had a couple of perfect hides and the rest were good, lost them all though. Couple of hours wasted.

[Sminky]

change server they come back. Your pelts etc.. will also still be on your horse.

[Level 9 Hamslayer]

Get a hunting wagon (trader) and store animals in there ut doesn't despawn even if you destroy your wagon. I think the horse cargo is supposed to disappear because you can store NPCs and what not on there.

[Erynar]

Getting far enough with the trader role to get the hunting wagon helps, because stuff in your hunting wagon doesn't disappear, but the way that they deal with pelts and carcasses on your horse is ridiculous. IMHO, they should always stay on your horse until you take them off yourself (by selling them, donating them, or whatever). They should never go away just because you fast traveled or logged out - or the game kicked you out. Unfortunately, for whatever stupid reason, that's not how it currently works. So, any time that you have a pelt or carcass which is not in your hunting wagon, you're always at some risk of losing it until you sell it to a butcher or donate it to Cripps for the trader stuff. It forces you to get stuff into your hunting wagon, to a butcher, or to Cripps far faster than you'd probably like to - and even then, you inevitably still end up losing some of them. You certainly can't go out and hunt a bunch of stuff for a couple of hours and then come back with it without running a real risk of getting nothing. It's one of the most annoying things about the current state of the online part of this game.

[󠀡]

Originally posted by Erynar:

Getting far enough with the trader role to get the hunting wagon helps, because stuff in your hunting wagon doesn't disappear, but the way that they deal with pelts and carcasses on your horse is ridiculous. IMHO, they should always stay on your horse until you take them off yourself (by selling them, donating them, or whatever). They should never go away just because you fast traveled or logged out - or the game kicked you out.

They do stay on your horse if you fast travel, only disappear if you change servers

Unfortunately, for whatever stupid reason, that's not how it currently works. So, any time that you have a pelt or carcass which is not in your hunting wagon, you're always at some risk of losing it until you sell it to a butcher or donate it to Cripps for the trader stuff. It forces you to get stuff into your hunting wagon, to a butcher, or to Cripps far faster than you'd probably like to - and even then, you inevitably still end up losing some of them. You certainly can't go out and hunt a bunch of stuff for a couple of hours and then come back with it without running a real risk of getting nothing. It's one of the most annoying things about the current state of the online part of this game.

The hunting wagon shouldn't be invincible actually, that kills immersion. It should be suseptible to damage and theft. I dont know why you think the game should be risk free ... you are probably one of those people that abuses exploits to get a solo lobby in rockstar games

[Spud]

Cheers for the replies, what's the best way to level up for the hunting wagon?

[Level 9 Hamslayer]

Originally posted by Based Roy Race:

Cheers for the replies, what's the best way to level up for the hunting wagon?

Get some mats/supplies in and literally when you get one good sell it. You get XP per delivery so you can do lots of deliveries easy/fast. You won't make a ton of money that way but you'll get XP way faster and once you hit the wagon you'll make a lot of money by getting 5 perfect med animals like deer pronghorn bighorn skeep etc and turning them in to cripps and at 11 you get bonus for perfects to the point where it'd fill give or take half your mats bar and you get lots of free time and can "passive hunt" if you could rate the wagon it'd be 20/10

[Erynar]

Originally posted by 󠀡:

Originally posted by Erynar:

Getting far enough with the trader role to get the hunting wagon helps, because stuff in your hunting wagon doesn't disappear, but the way that they deal with pelts and carcasses on your horse is ridiculous. IMHO, they should always stay on your horse until you take them off yourself (by selling them, donating them, or whatever). They should never go away just because you fast traveled or logged out - or the game kicked you out.

They do stay on your horse if you fast travel, only disappear if you change servers

I've seen too many people talk about them disappearing when you fast travel to ignore it, though it's possible that it was an issue earlier on which has been fixed. However, it's my understanding that you sometimes change server when fast traveling, and if that's the case, and changing servers causes you to lose your pelts, then it's possible that fast traveling will sometimes cause you to lose your pelts even if it doesn't happen every time.

Originally posted by 󠀡:

Originally posted by Erynar:

Unfortunately, for whatever stupid reason, that's not how it currently works. So, any time that you have a pelt or carcass which is not in your hunting wagon, you're always at some risk of losing it until you sell it to a butcher or donate it to Cripps for the trader stuff. It forces you to get stuff into your hunting wagon, to a butcher, or to Cripps far faster than you'd probably like to - and even then, you inevitably still end up losing some of them. You certainly can't go out and hunt a bunch of stuff for a couple of hours and then come back with it without running a real risk of getting nothing. It's one of the most annoying things about the current state of the online part of this game.

The hunting wagon shouldn't be invincible actually, that kills immersion. It should be suseptible to damage and theft. I dont know why you think the game should be risk free ... you are probably one of those people that abuses exploits to get a solo lobby in rockstar games

You can certainly argue that the hunting wagon should be at risk similar to how the trading wagon is, but that's arguing about the gameplay. The issue here is not that you're getting robbed by another player or that your cart breaks down or anything else that has to do with actual gameplay. It has to do with the fact that pelts disappear just because you quit the game or something caused you to change servers. IMHO, you shouldn't be losing anything just because the game decided to put you in a different server this time around. Aside from the list of people in your session, the fact that there even _is_ a specific server that you're on should be pretty much invisible. It's fine if there are gameplay elements that cause you to lose stuff. The problem is when backend stuff causes you to lose stuff.

And the current situation is made that much worse by the fact that the game likes to randomly kick people out due to error 0x20010006. You can be playing the game completely as intended and randomly lose your pelts. If pelts stayed on your horse just like items stay in your satchel, then while getting kicked out would be a problem, it wouldn't cause you to actually lose your stuff. And if someone hit a bug where all of the butchers disappeared, they wouldn't be losing their pelts when they quit the session and could sell them later when they played again.

Even if I could play in a solo lobby, it wouldn't fix any of this, because the issue is not the interactions with other players, it's bugs in how the game behaves.

[Customer ******* Stole My Money!]

Originally posted by 󠀡:

Originally posted by Erynar:

Getting far enough with the trader role to get the hunting wagon helps, because stuff in your hunting wagon doesn't disappear, but the way that they deal with pelts and carcasses on your horse is ridiculous. IMHO, they should always stay on your horse until you take them off yourself (by selling them, donating them, or whatever). They should never go away just because you fast traveled or logged out - or the game kicked you out.

They do stay on your horse if you fast travel, only disappear if you change servers

No, 'they' refering to carcass' AND pelts -> do NOT stay on your horse.
i can confirm this.
carcasses disappear off horse after/before/during fast travel.

[Die Zahl]

Originally posted by Arseface:

Originally posted by 󠀡:

They do stay on your horse if you fast travel, only disappear if you change servers

No, they do not stay on your horse.
i confirm, you are incorrect.
pelts disappear off horse after/before/during fast travel.

after 200+ hours in online mode, i can say, pelts and corpses stay on the horse while fast traveling.

[Customer ******* Stole My Money!]

Originally posted by Die Zahl:

Originally posted by Arseface:

No, they do not stay on your horse.
i confirm, you are incorrect.
pelts disappear off horse after/before/during fast travel.

after 200+ hours in online mode, i can say, pelts and corpses stay on the horse while fast traveling.

you can say anything you please and as many times.

but fact remains that carcass disapear.

[Customer ******* Stole My Money!]

i can also confirm that the butcher will eventually respawn.

as i have observed, myself, in game whilst typing these comments.

cant say how long it takes for butcher to despawn/cycle/respawn.
or why they despawn in the first place. could be related to how they never seem to have the appropriate voice actor?


but i would guess somewhere in the 10-15minute range.

[Level 9 Hamslayer]

Originally posted by Arseface:

Originally posted by Die Zahl:

after 200+ hours in online mode, i can say, pelts and corpses stay on the horse while fast traveling.

you can say anything you please and as many times.

but fact remains that carcass disapear.

I've also noticed that animals stay on your horse after fast travel. If you switch servers or restart the game it'll remove the animal, but fast travel alone doesn't.

[Customer ******* Stole My Money!]

i too noticed "sometimes" the carcass will stay.
once or twice out of ALL the times i've fast travelled.

however, just as when cripps packs up my camp for no reason
and also, just as trying to set up camp will "stall" or just simply not work
or when transfering servers my camp is relocated or "packed up"

more often than not, the carcass is missing after fast travel.
and unless there is some kind of server transfer from fast travel, i dont have an explanation for why my carcass go missing so often.

also, what you have shared doesnt help me keep my carcass.



im not trying to bicker or dismiss anybody.
i am just expressing my experience.

this is why i said "you say whatever you like as much as you want."
doesnt change my experience.

fyi, it happened again before typing this response -> hence the only reason i checked for any solutions or actual explanations or if the problem is fixed.

but after all is said, the topic is that the butcher despawns and i have no intention to sidetrack.
so i shall continue my search for actual solutions to the problem.

best regards