FINAL FANTASY IV

FINAL FANTASY IV

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Keytee Tamira Sep 9, 2021 @ 3:08pm
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FF4 is the most tedious Final Fantasy game. And is worst out of SNES ones.
I played FF4 multiple times in many versions. SNES, GBA, PSP and 3D.
And i can confirm that it's just tedious. It's so tedious that FF1-3 feels much faster. Even FF13 has more freedom.

FF4 has NO customization at all. Pre-determined magic, pre-determined classes. Only equipment can be changed, but it's hardly any customization.

Right now in Waterfall Cave:

Was in battles with Tiny Mages. They paralzyed Cecil and sucked all magic from casters. After 5 minutes in battle he finally is back to his senses and destroyed Tiny Mages.
Rydia and Cecil are useless against Zombies, only Tellah with Fire spells.
Amoebas restore more health than AoE thunder can damage, so i have to cast it more.

It doesn't give challenge, it makes it just tedious. Even when you look at battles like puzzles, it is still feels tedious, as you have to make same actions again in every similar battle.
In FF1 you can customize your party from the start, so if battles feel tedious, it's on Player's part.
In FF2 you can break the leveling by two shields. Plus spells actually damage enemies in fair way.
In FF3 you have lots of freedom in terms of customization, and tons of side-content early on.

FF4 is linear. More linear than FF13. FF4 has very low side content, and it opens up late.
It's just boring...

I'll finish it, get all achievements and will wait for the best FF ever made. Final Fantasy 5.
And then play Final Fantasy 7 Prototype. Also known as Final Fantasy 6. Is very good, but actual Final Fantasy 7 did a lot of stuff better.
Still, best FF is FF5.
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Virgilmaro Sep 9, 2021 @ 3:21pm 
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Your opinion is invalid.
Koby Sep 9, 2021 @ 3:26pm 
FF4 is my favorite FF of all time. It's the GOAT of FF. =P
Monterossa Sep 9, 2021 @ 3:26pm 
Agreed. And I've heard so many FF4 fans throwing crap at FF5, painting it to be the worst of the SNES three in order to defend their FF4.

Not only that 5 is the best one on SNES, it's easily in the top 5 of the entire series.
gamblingpoet Sep 9, 2021 @ 3:28pm 
Originally posted by Monterossa:
Agreed. And I've heard so many FF4 fans throwing crap at FF5, painting it to be the worst of the SNES three in order to defend their FF4.

Not only that 5 is the best one on SNES, it's easily in the top 5 of the entire series.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is what we call a "wrong opinion"
Blackened Halo Sep 9, 2021 @ 3:34pm 
to be honest, as a child I always prefered FF4 but playing it now once again i must say that Final Fantasy III is a better game than Final Fantasy 4
Koby Sep 9, 2021 @ 3:36pm 
Originally posted by Monterossa:
Agreed. And I've heard so many FF4 fans throwing crap at FF5, painting it to be the worst of the SNES three in order to defend their FF4.

Not only that 5 is the best one on SNES, it's easily in the top 5 of the entire series.
FF5 is the only one I haven't played of the mainline (not counting 13+), but I do intend to rectify that at some point. However my current top 5 looks like:

FF4
FF9
FF10
FF6
FF3
Dadalama Sep 9, 2021 @ 3:39pm 
Tiny mages you need to wait until they're alone if you can't one shot them yet. And zombies, that's where Tellah shines. Tellah's MP is terribad but it's pretty nice for when you find him. They're weak against fire, use Osmose to keep your mp up. Just don't use it on the zombies themselves.

I'm not trying to persuade you it's good. Just giving you a fighting chance to get a little further. MP conservation is a bit of a problem on Mt. Ordeals too.
Last edited by Dadalama; Sep 9, 2021 @ 3:41pm
Gemini Holo Sep 9, 2021 @ 4:10pm 
You posted all that. Not sure why.

Also

Originally posted by Monterossa:
Agreed. And I've heard so many FF4 fans throwing crap at FF5, painting it to be the worst of the SNES three in order to defend their FF4.

Not only that 5 is the best one on SNES, it's easily in the top 5 of the entire series.

FFV is FF4 with jobs. The story is about 80% the same except there's no big fat whale.Look at ExDeath and look at Golbez. It's practically the same guy except time travel or whatever. Crystals getting stolen/destroyed, chase down some henchmen of Golbez/Exdeath, ride a ship then an airship, blah blah blah.
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Apoc Sep 9, 2021 @ 5:14pm 
-Dark Knight Cecil using Darkness actually does some damage to Zombies, considering it's the same element as his sword its weird that it does more than 1 damage but it's an option to make the 7 zombies encounter end faster.
-Rydia can use the Fire Rod for a weak but free Fire spell.

FF4 to me is the first Final Fantasy that really focused on the story and it shows because the gameplay was very simple but it is still far from the worst. Especially in this version where they kept the abilities unlike the US SNES version where Dark Knight Cecil lacked Darkness and was an auto attack bot.

Calling it more linear than Corridor Simulator, I mean 13, is ridiculous, please. 13 is so linear they even separated it in chapters. Only one chapter of 13 actually included some exploration and roaming, the actually fun part of the game with things to do.
LuxStein Sep 9, 2021 @ 6:29pm 
"I used auto-battle against TinyMages and got wrecked, so the game is bad."
Snorenado Sep 9, 2021 @ 6:42pm 
You have to think a little bit. You know from 1 battle how annoying Tiny Mages are so you have to nuke them asap. Don't target others, kill the Tiny Mages with physical damage, use sleep if you have to.

Zombies are weak to holy and restorative magic so Cure counts. Rydia and Tellah have Cure, Tellah even has Raise which is a one shot death for them.

On the contrary to the huge party limitations of FF1-3, FF4 is the first game that tests you harder than the ones before, it asks you to come up with gambits that will clear the enemies fastest, like puzzles to solve via your resources of magic, equipment and character skills/specialties.
Pack 4 Potatoes Sep 9, 2021 @ 7:28pm 
I agree, which is why I don't recommend FF4 to anyone.

4 introduced the ATB system, which is probably why they made the combat simple and had no class customization. Much easier to balance out the ATB combat that way.
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NeoRizer Sep 9, 2021 @ 9:16pm 
Tedious? Are you serious? Go play FFV... ffs.... THAT ♥♥♥♥ is tedious...

Oh I want this one ability but it's on this crappy job that sucks (X-Fight) looking at you... Ranger class.... jebus.... who the F plays that class seriously in any RPG?

Yeah... you get 3 Job points per 20 second fight.... and it takes like 900 JPB to max the class out.. okay let's do the math on that.... mmm over an hour and a half of my life sitting in the same spot grinding for job XP so I can learn a skill... yeah... suuuper efficient and not tedious at all.

Christ sakes you just walk through FFIV and win... what's tedious about it? LOL

Also it's called strategy, use darkness with Cecil and heal him with Rydia, use Fire against the zombies with Tellah... are you even kidding right now? LOL... You're seriously stuck at THAT part of the game? You're not gonna make it... :/ Quit now.
WOLFTSLAYS Sep 9, 2021 @ 9:36pm 
yeesh lol
Dyex Sep 9, 2021 @ 9:46pm 
Fun reads.
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