idk man

[feekL]

i understand there is a really high skill ceiling and there are players that are mechanically inclined, but casual games with the average player base are turning into an endless pile up battle on the boards for the entire 5 minutes and into 10 minutes of overtime and literally nothing happens and its unbelievably boring. i also understand the playerbase isnt large enough to split into game modes, but even since the original slapshot ive believed 2v2 would be soooo much better when a majority of players cant truly control what they are even doing. im sure ill get flamed, but i literally played a 20 minute match of there being zero chances to score, zero chances to make a pass, zero chances for anything interesting to happen because its getting whacked along the boards and then theres 4 guys all piled up pushing eachother. this game is so dope but that ♥♥♥♥ is soooooo bad.

[Erveon]

It gets a lot better after a few more hours of playtime (skill) because you learn to work with your team and create space. In games like these the lower level gameplay will always be a lot of chasing around; I don't think there's too much we can do to help that.

[feekL]

i understand when all 6 players are skilled 3s is perfectly fine, but the majority of the player base cannot do what noob weapons and panarin are doing. ive been in a few matches with players that new how to cycle and we did a few passes, but even at that point i wish the third player was just not in the game for unranked scenarios

[turtle]

Originally posted by Erveon:

It gets a lot better after a few more hours of playtime (skill) because you learn to work with your team and create space. In games like these the lower level gameplay will always be a lot of chasing around; I don't think there's too much we can do to help that.

Agreed, you gotta work to get good at this game. It's not just mechanics. If you come to this having not played a team sport before you're gonna have a bad time until you learn fundamentals around passing and creating openings like you said. That's not even getting into hockey-specific things like cycling the puck as you mentioned matt. That is the inherent joy of it, people that stick with it *will* get better, you just gotta work for it.

Improved matchmaking will smooth this process though.

[Erveon]

Originally posted by General Ma:

it will be dead in a week just play rocket league

Yikes

[Duck]

Originally posted by General Ma:

it will be dead in a week just play rocket league

Stop commenting the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ everywhere. The game isn't dead and won't be. It's been populated since Slapshot and has a growing community that supports it and the developers.

[Brian_Tabor]

Originally posted by DHALOH:

Originally posted by General Ma:

it will be dead in a week just play rocket league

Stop commenting the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ everywhere. The game isn't dead and won't be. It's been populated since Slapshot and has a growing community that supports it and the developers.

Dead? No. But in a comma and on life support. And will remain so until they balance it or their bosses fire them, and the next people do. Or it gets bought, and they balance it. Just like CS. You can cater to the people who like it broken aka the bhop script kiddie no lifer scene. Or you try to can balance it so it is playable. The unblockable shootout ego scene isn't what most people want. And it's full and well catered to it. Might as well be 1v1 with an A.I goalie the way it's setup now.

But they probably won't work game balance, like smaller nets, easier and more options goal tending. Or even lowering stick effects on other players. Hell they aren't even giving cooldowns to the mass rage quitting. And they sure aren't going to make teams who are queued only play other teams. Even though any two half competent people on keyboard and mouse are pretty much unblockable.

When most people are coming from games with all these things already worked out. They aren't going to take your game serious when it doesn't have the basics down. I'm just going to keep using my controller and have fun with my goofy little man. There's no reason to take an unbalanced crap show seriously. And most people coming in view it as that. Like it or not.

[Erveon]

Originally posted by B_S_H:

Originally posted by DHALOH:

Stop commenting the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ everywhere. The game isn't dead and won't be. It's been populated since Slapshot and has a growing community that supports it and the developers.

Dead? No. But in a comma and on life support. And will remain so until they balance it or their bosses fire them, and the next people do. Or it gets bought, and they balance it. Just like CS. You can cater to the people who like it broken aka the bhop script kiddie no lifer scene. Or you try to can balance it so it is playable. The unblockable shootout ego scene isn't what most people want. And it's full and well catered to it. Might as well be 1v1 with an A.I goalie the way it's setup now.

But they probably won't work game balance, like smaller nets, easier and more options goal tending. Or even lowering stick effects on other players. Hell they aren't even giving cooldowns to the mass rage quitting. And they sure aren't going to make teams who are queued only play other teams. Even though any two half competent people on keyboard and mouse are pretty much unblockable.

When most people are coming from games with all these things already worked out. They aren't going to take your game serious when it doesn't have the basics down. I'm just going to keep using my controller and have fun with my goofy little man. There's no reason to take an unbalanced crap show seriously. And most people coming in view it as that. Like it or not.

We literally have a roadmap https://slapshot.nolt.io/roadmap where half the stuff you said would never happen is planned. The game is also in Early Access.

[Brian_Tabor]

We literally have a roadmap https://slapshot.nolt.io/roadmap where half the stuff you said would never happen is planned. The game is also in Early Access. [/quote]

What ones? The bare bones competitive multiplayer stuff you didn't launch with? Let's see there is one, that might be on this list. You literally are a liar! You expected me not to look and just flat out lied. LOL Why do you look at your own list so you know 1 thing is on it. Scumbag. If you are a standard barer for the quality of employee on this Dev team. The one talking to the public. I'm out. GLHF Play Rocket League People.

x is not one of the ones I said.

x skins for hockey sticks#629
x Hat trick#519
x team chat#94
x Celebrations after a goal#49
x Dailies / Weeklies#478
x Ranked Playlist#229
x Starting positions in private matches#95
x More stadiums#162
x Practice map maker#146
x In practice, have a puck machine that shoots pucks#164
x Implement 'The Pond' (online)#86
x Play again#378
x Typing bubble hovering overhead while typing in-game#132
x Add chat to lobby screen#620
x Periods option in Custom Games#511
x Show MVP (most valuable player) of the game#501
x API for using along with PUG bots, competitions for automatically getting stats etc.#78
x Custom goal horns#191
x Customization#572
x Hair Color#273
x Sounds when hitting cones#75
x Option to toggle reverse cam on button hold#81
x Sort spectator camera buttons by team#85
x Add menu transparency when changing camera properties#92
x Mouse-over tool tips in settings#97
x Fix off-screen indicator jitter/flicker#98
x Evil Trainer Buddy cosmetic#183
x Single Player Practice Modes#197
x In-Game Replay Save#198
x In the future, expand out to consoles.#218
x Custom Game edit matchtime#222
x Stick tilting during replay shows on your character#384
x Nappy Hair#255
x Shop unselecting#290
x Customizable mercy rule#231
x Scoreboard name bug#327
x Give option to increase the visual size of dash bar#239
x Sound when stick collides with post#228
x How about some girl cosmetics?#326
x Puck occasionally clips with stick#23
x Brightness setting#55
x Controller rumble#68
x Video settings should save across sessions#47
x Displayed pux balance isn't always up to date#119
x Option to limit FPS when game is not in focus#59
x Fix puck lifting (stick tilt) for player player altering stick tilt in replays#58
x Pressing the 'reset to default' button takes two presses#69
x Fix stick lifts caused by contact#11
x Some cosmetics clip through other cosmetics#41
x Toggling Controls Match Camera to Off currently doesn't affect controller stick movement#39
x Players that join/exit during a replay will be included/excluded from the replay#38
x Make disconnects from backbone automatically reconnect#80
x Remember selected region in custom games#549
x Backpack#632

"might count" + Rebalance backhand#587

x Performance improvements#390
x Option to toggle a profanity filter#88
x Researching
x Different country jerseys#163
x Option to rotate camera#65
x 🏎️🚓SIM RACING WHEEL CONTROLLER SUPPORT🏎️🚓#349
x Queue penalty if you leave a game before it ends#411
x 2v2#230
x Brazil/South America servers#178
x AntiSpam in chat#216
x Bot Support#187
x Puck Camera bug?#542
x Puck suddenly rockets away from stick#33
x Steam account link on scoreboard#381
x Cosmetics should only be colored with team colors#100
x Buffer/Ping slider in practice mode#258
x Adding text chat for spectators#89
x Better save detecting system than it is in slapshot 1#82
x UI Scale Adjustment#247
x GB Nationality change#210
x Post hit audio is delayed by .5s#208
x Animated stick decals#204
x Settings Bug#220
x Adjustable AI amounts for practice#50

[Erveon]

Originally posted by B_S_H:

What ones? The bare bones competitive multiplayer stuff you didn't launch with? Let's see there is one, that might be on this list. You literally are a liar! You expected me not to look and just flat out lied. LOL Why do you look at your own list so you know 1 thing is on it. Scumbag. If you are a standard barer for the quality of employee on this Dev team. The one talking to the public. I'm out. GLHF Play Rocket League People.

x is not one of the ones I said.

x skins for hockey sticks#629
x Hat trick#519
x team chat#94
x Celebrations after a goal#49
x Dailies / Weeklies#478
x Ranked Playlist#229
x Starting positions in private matches#95
x More stadiums#162
x Practice map maker#146
x In practice, have a puck machine that shoots pucks#164
x Implement 'The Pond' (online)#86
x Play again#378
x Typing bubble hovering overhead while typing in-game#132
x Add chat to lobby screen#620
x Periods option in Custom Games#511
x Show MVP (most valuable player) of the game#501
x API for using along with PUG bots, competitions for automatically getting stats etc.#78
x Custom goal horns#191
x Customization#572
x Hair Color#273
x Sounds when hitting cones#75
x Option to toggle reverse cam on button hold#81
x Sort spectator camera buttons by team#85
x Add menu transparency when changing camera properties#92
x Mouse-over tool tips in settings#97
x Fix off-screen indicator jitter/flicker#98
x Evil Trainer Buddy cosmetic#183
x Single Player Practice Modes#197
x In-Game Replay Save#198
x In the future, expand out to consoles.#218
x Custom Game edit matchtime#222
x Stick tilting during replay shows on your character#384
x Nappy Hair#255
x Shop unselecting#290
x Customizable mercy rule#231
x Scoreboard name bug#327
x Give option to increase the visual size of dash bar#239
x Sound when stick collides with post#228
x How about some girl cosmetics?#326
x Puck occasionally clips with stick#23
x Brightness setting#55
x Controller rumble#68
x Video settings should save across sessions#47
x Displayed pux balance isn't always up to date#119
x Option to limit FPS when game is not in focus#59
x Fix puck lifting (stick tilt) for player player altering stick tilt in replays#58
x Pressing the 'reset to default' button takes two presses#69
x Fix stick lifts caused by contact#11
x Some cosmetics clip through other cosmetics#41
x Toggling Controls Match Camera to Off currently doesn't affect controller stick movement#39
x Players that join/exit during a replay will be included/excluded from the replay#38
x Make disconnects from backbone automatically reconnect#80
x Remember selected region in custom games#549
x Backpack#632

"might count" + Rebalance backhand#587

x Performance improvements#390
x Option to toggle a profanity filter#88
x Researching
x Different country jerseys#163
x Option to rotate camera#65
x 🏎️🚓SIM RACING WHEEL CONTROLLER SUPPORT🏎️🚓#349
x Queue penalty if you leave a game before it ends#411
x 2v2#230
x Brazil/South America servers#178
x AntiSpam in chat#216
x Bot Support#187
x Puck Camera bug?#542
x Puck suddenly rockets away from stick#33
x Steam account link on scoreboard#381
x Cosmetics should only be colored with team colors#100
x Buffer/Ping slider in practice mode#258
x Adding text chat for spectators#89
x Better save detecting system than it is in slapshot 1#82
x UI Scale Adjustment#247
x GB Nationality change#210
x Post hit audio is delayed by .5s#208
x Animated stick decals#204
x Settings Bug#220
x Adjustable AI amounts for practice#50

Well yea cause some of the suggestions you made were rejected because they don't contribute to balancing. The game doesn't need to be balanced to your needs, you just need to get better. We made this game not with the intention of holding your hand and giving you participation trophies. Either you play custom games with friends and have good fun or if you want to actually climb the competition ladder you need to put in the work.

I'm also not the "employee speaking to the public". I'm the director of the studio. We're just a couple people, not some huge studio. Sure you can judge us on the quality we deliver but don't expect a AAA game when we never claimed it was.

The game is in Early Access, that is something we made clear. We're working on balancing, features and lots of other good stuff. You're free not to like it and play other games, it's free to play, you haven't wasted any money just some of your time which I would refund if I could but you decided to just waste more of it I guess.

Have a nice day.

[feekL]

lmao i have no idea who that guy is and i like what you said about the game doesnt need to be balanced FOR YOU, GET BETTER. lmao.

i am a hockey player and this game is better than NHL 21, as is.
the completely manual stick handling and passing is simulation as ♥♥♥♥.
it would be cool to add more axis to the stick controls for reaching toe drags and such,
i can see that being a coding nightmare and borderline impossible given the controller,
but even without that this game satisfies the hockey itch when off the ice.

the only thing thats unfortunate is the inexperienced player base, and low population.
when everyone puck chases and cant control their player theres 6 people trapping the puck against the boards the entirety of the game.

that and the slightest amount of input lag on the stick online, i have no idea how the top players are so consistent, ill cut it up offline

ill have to get on the discord and find a group to do customs with.

[feekL]

lmao whats your rank in rocket league mr general sir

[Brian_Tabor]

Well yea cause some of the suggestions you made were rejected because they don't contribute to balancing. The game doesn't need to be balanced to your needs, you just need to get better. We made this game not with the intention of holding your hand and giving you participation trophies. Either you play custom games with friends and have good fun or if you want to actually climb the competition ladder you need to put in the work.

I'm also not the "employee speaking to the public". I'm the director of the studio. We're just a couple people, not some huge studio. Sure you can judge us on the quality we deliver but don't expect a AAA game when we never claimed it was.

The game is in Early Access, that is something we made clear. We're working on balancing, features and lots of other good stuff. You're free not to like it and play other games, it's free to play, you haven't wasted any money just some of your time which I would refund if I could but you decided to just waste more of it I guess.

Have a nice day. [/quote]


LOL. You are right in the fact that nothing "has to", be anything. My point exactly. That you are catering to a super small base. Without concern for growth and your game will remain stagnant until you address it. Which if never, means. DEAD GAME. You really just proved everyone elses points perfectly. Thank you.

If you want this to be, what you want it to be! And to hell with growth, or jobs, or longevity of the game. Hell! More power to ya!

But I'm not a ego driven person who wants a 1v1 shoot off game with no balance. Most people coming in see it's unbalanced immediately. And are uninterested in putting effort into, "git'in gud". Because the core of the games currant model, and playstyle. Doesn't suit what a lot of people want.

Which is why I made the CS analogy. They didn't care either. Until they did... Because no one cared. But If you need to repeat others mistake to learn. That's your business not mine.