The easiest solution to any "is X included and/or is Dune: Awakening inclusive" from a mechanical aesthetic implementation:

[War]

This is not a troll post or one made for humour but to address what seems to be a very simple solution, mechanically, to those genuinely concerned with physical representation in Dune Awakening. Additionally this would likely be an unobtrusive solution for those who are against such representation and/or potential delays in development. It would also serve as a means to simply change things up as one plays irrespective of any individual identity concerns:

Have a mechanic added, be it NPC or just a menu option, to change your appearance post character creation. Lore basis for such, people who wished to use this for self-identity/internalisations could simply role play a Bene Tleilax Face Dancer.

There is a precedence for such characters in Dune lore -- extensively so.
It is a firm in world reason to have a "change appearance mechanic" in game.
It would be a cosmetic only option to allow for greater accommodation to anyone concerned with aesthetic options and/or fluidity.
Anyone could use the mechanic if they got bored with their original character aesthetic.
We already have a character creator -- pre game and of course in game so making a menu option to overwrite the model/skin wouldn't seem arduous as the front end already exists.

Being totally serious to all parties in this representative debate, this likely serves the broadest sample set of the community and should be relatively easy to implement given what is already known to exist and be operable.

As new body parts/skins et al. get added over time, assumed but likely, then they simply get added to the same menu system to change your model/skin. Flexible and all inclusive irrespective of one's orientation(s).

Constructive thoughts?

[Mavor]

Lot of words to say 'we should have character customization after creation'. =P

[Shintai]

If I ever saw a troll post... I give it 1/10, some effort but too much "this is not a troll post", "Totally serious" and a Steam hidden account to farm clowns with.

[War]

Originally posted by Mavor:

Lot of words to say 'we should have character customization after creation'. =P

@Mavor,

Yes, however, I think it reasonable to elaborate as to "why" we should.

Likewise, there are often very heated camps and views within those camps, irrespective of the justification for such "militancy" and more explanation might limit some of the flaming. I'd rather see some constructive discourse vs. just trolling/flaming nonsense as people dig-in heels etc.

My "verbosity" gives a reason to various camps as to why it would be beneficial.

[War]

Originally posted by Shintai:

If I ever saw a troll post... I give it 1/10, some effort but too much "this is not a troll post", "Totally serious" and a Steam hidden account to farm clowns with.

@Shintai,

Account visibility is not relevant to the discourse at hand and your response, unfortunately offered nothing constructive to the conversation.

[Shintai]

Even if you want to go there, Dune Universe does not allow it. It is strictly conservative.

[Lord Marshal]

There will be a way to customize your character after creation, but when that will get put in us anyone's guess.

Spice reacts harshly to gender fluid.

[Kilgore]

You Why is it all these "0" level accounts.

[War]

Originally posted by Shintai:

Even if you want to go there, Dune Universe does not allow it. It is strictly conservative.

I do not believe this is an accurate statement within the actual lore of Dune and the IP (depending on the iteration).

Vladimir Harkonnen (especially) and Feyd Rautha are two main character examples (especially in the 1984 Dino De Laurentis iteration) where in "strictly" conservative would not apply.

The Bene Gesserit being political breeding machines selecting gender for political gain when copulating with their marks.

The Bene Tleiax Axlotl Tanks (chemically induced and genetically altered female womb/breeding factories who eventually rebel and regain their independence.

Honour Matres, again, would not be "strictly" conservative by most metrics as they seek to rule largely by sexual enslavement and imprinting.

The androgyny of the Face Dances would also not be "strictly conservative".

All of the above are core elements/people within Dune and, I think fair to say, not "strictly" conservative.

Dune has many conservative undercurrents yes, but it is not "strictly" conservative. There are almost always exceptions to anything -- absolutism is rarely "air tight".

[War]

Originally posted by Kilgore:

You :jestinfection: Why is it all these "0" level accounts.

Because any account set to private, as far as I am aware, displays as a 0 level account and there is no profit to be had by having a public Steam account vs. having one tagged for friends only.

[Mavor]

Originally posted by War:

Originally posted by Mavor:

Lot of words to say 'we should have character customization after creation'. =P

@Mavor,

Yes, however, I think it reasonable to elaborate as to "why" we should.

Likewise, there are often very heated camps and views within those camps, irrespective of the justification for such "militancy" and more explanation might limit some of the flaming. I'd rather see some constructive discourse vs. just trolling/flaming nonsense as people dig-in heels etc.

My "verbosity" gives a reason to various camps as to why it would be beneficial.

I don't think there needs to be a 'why' we should have it.

The only reason we should have it is because most games offer such things these days. Including Funcoms previous survicalcraft title Conan Exiles.

Why it exists or why players decide to use it is irrelevant.

[War]

Originally posted by Mavor:

Originally posted by War:

@Mavor,

Yes, however, I think it reasonable to elaborate as to "why" we should.

Likewise, there are often very heated camps and views within those camps, irrespective of the justification for such "militancy" and more explanation might limit some of the flaming. I'd rather see some constructive discourse vs. just trolling/flaming nonsense as people dig-in heels etc.

My "verbosity" gives a reason to various camps as to why it would be beneficial.

I don't think there needs to be a 'why' we should have it.

The only reason we should have it is because most games offer such things these days. Including Funcoms previous survicalcraft title Conan Exiles.

Why it exists or why players decide to use it is irrelevant.

I'd agree with that to a point. However, for those who, in other threads, have been making a case against "X change or Y change etc." on the basis of either necessity and/or the potential to a delayed launch, might well value the "why" of the proposal so I offered my take on the "why".

[War]

Originally posted by Kilgore:

Originally posted by War:

Because any account set to private, as far as I am aware, displays as a 0 level account and there is no profit to be had by having a public Steam account vs. having one tagged for friends only.

Look I'll humour you for a minute, right you have blokes want to be women and women who want to be men, I really don't understand how hard is it to pick the body type you "feel represents you" There's absolutely no reason other than to antagonise people to get a response because some moron thinks it's a great look for a good looking girl character to run around with a beard or a male character with huge muscles to be dressed as Tinkerbell only to say it represents them in real life, This is where normal people struggle with it "why " the hell do you want an imaginary character to look like you in real life most gamer's want to see a character they'll never achieve in real life, anyone can be that wobbly arsed twatt, or the ugly twigglet that would snap in a breeze, it's just escapism from the real world for a few hours that any real gamer wants and to have a few laughs along the way no one wants or needs to know you're real life preferences no one knows you enough foe that much detail about online strangers.

Unfortunately, I did not see in either of your responses, thus far, if you are favour of or against the ability to alter one's in game appearance post character creation? There seem to be pros for such, irrespective of the individual motivation behind the desire for said alteration, which would be beneficial to all participants.